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danielf 02-05-2005 23:36

Are my MIPS right?
 
I decided to check my new laptop's performance at www.pcpitstop.com (which I have found helpful in the past).

It told me there were two minor problem's with it: the processor underperformed, and the c drive needed defragging. I did the latter using windows (XP home) defrag), but pcpitstop still complained, so I ran the trial version of O&O, which brought fragmentation down to 5%.

According to the tests, my processor still underperforms compared to similar systems. As far as I can tell by quite a bit:

Quote:

The processor performance of this system, 2468 MIPS (millions of integer operations per second), is significantly lower than similar systems with the same type of processor running at the same clock rate, which perform at 6506 MIPS, on average.
Suggested solutions are to disable unnecessary processes, and to disable power saving options when running on AC.

Disabling any unnecessary processes does not make any difference, and as far as I know, all power saving options have been turned off.

So, is my system underperforming (and if so, what should I do), or is this expected from a laptop, or should I take this whole test with a pinch of salt?

System info:

Acer Aspire 1520
CPU AMD 64 3400+
512 meg RAM
NVIDIA Geforce FX Go 5700 (128 meg)
80 Gig HD

bmxbandit 02-05-2005 23:38

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
does it definitely recognse your pc as a laptop? a mobile a64 cpu will perform a lot less well than a desktop one.

Electrolyte01 02-05-2005 23:40

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
Your MIPS are very low. My Athlon XP 2400+ does at least 3000 MIPS. Although I wouldn't know why it would run that slow on your system :erm:

danielf 02-05-2005 23:48

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bmxbandit
does it definitely recognse your pc as a laptop? a mobile a64 cpu will perform a lot less well than a desktop one.

It says that my system looks like it might be a laptop (hence the power management suggestion). It does not say if the comparison is against other laptops though...
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Originally Posted by Electrolyte
Your MIPS are very low. My Athlon XP 2400+ does at least 3000 MIPS. Although I wouldn't know why it would run that slow on your system :erm:

Is that a laptop or desktop?

I ran the test a number of times, and occasionally it does go up to 4500, but 2500 seems to be the norm.

zing_deleted 03-05-2005 00:04

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
Are you sure your hyper transport settings and cpu cache settings are correct in bios?Was the cpu busy doing something else at the time?

Graham M 03-05-2005 00:05

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
Is the laptop plugged in or running on battery when you run these tests?

danielf 03-05-2005 00:09

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb
Are you sure your hyper transport settings and cpu cache settings are correct in bios?

No. I wouldn't know what the correct setting are :dunce: :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb
Was the cpu busy doing something else at the time?

No, cpu load was at at 1-3 %
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Originally Posted by Zeph
Is the laptop plugged in or running on battery when you run these tests?

Plugged in (and battery at 100%)

Raistlin 03-05-2005 00:10

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
Bah!! I just ran that on my Acer laptop and it didn't even tell me my MIPs!!

I'm feeling very left out!

zing_deleted 03-05-2005 00:11

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
Go into bios and look around for cpu settings,make sure the hyper transport is set to 4x at least and make sure cpu cache is on
Dont change anything till you have checked manual or online what settings are correct for machine
you could reset to defaults and try again

danielf 03-05-2005 00:26

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raistlin
Bah!! I just ran that on my Acer laptop and it didn't even tell me my MIPs!!

I'm feeling very left out!

That's probably because yours are allright :)
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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
Go into bios and look around for cpu settings,make sure the hyper transport is set to 4x at least and make sure cpu cache is on
Dont change anything till you have checked manual or online what settings are correct for machine
you could reset to defaults and try again

I had a look in the bios, and can't find any options regarding that. Regardless, seeing this laptop is one month old, and this was my first look at the bios, I'd assume the settings are default?

zing_deleted 03-05-2005 00:27

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
do a google for a program called prime95, if there is a real cpu problem this program will fail very quickly,download the zip,run program,just stress test,click test and use prime net,

danielf 03-05-2005 00:38

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb
do a google for a program called prime95, if there is a real cpu problem this program will fail very quickly,download the zip,run program,just stress test,click test and use prime net,

The fan seems to be working allright :)

(on test1 now)

zing_deleted 03-05-2005 00:39

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
not worried about the fan :) prime test the cpu at a solid 100%

danielf 03-05-2005 00:42

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb
not worried about the fan :) prime test the cpu at a solid 100%

I just noticed, the test takes about an hour...

I had planned to retire earlier...

BTW The machine runs like a dream. It's just when you get reports that similar systems perform much better that you start wondering...

edit: test2 now

zing_deleted 03-05-2005 00:45

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
If you have got that far chances are cpu are ok,if it runs ok I wouldnt worry,

danielf 03-05-2005 00:48

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb
If you have got that far chances are cpu are ok,if it runs ok I wouldnt worry,

So is that just bad reporting/test or an unfair comparison then? (as others report higher scores)?

zing_deleted 03-05-2005 00:54

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
might well be a bad reading,have a google see if you can get a trial of pcmark ,run that see what it scores

Tristan 03-05-2005 01:15

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
SiSoft Sandra is an excellent programme for finding out everything there is to know about the insides of your PC. Amongst other things, it has two CPU benchmarks, a memory benchmark and a HD benchmark. You can also compare the results with similar spec'd components.

Try it now!

greencreeper 03-05-2005 19:38

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
Well I'm more than a bit tired and read "MIPS" as "NIPS" and was wondering what danielf was doing messing around with clothes pegs - doesn't seem the type to me but hey :shrug: Now I'm reading with interest in the hopes of working out what a "MIP" is :erm:

danielf 04-05-2005 00:56

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greencreeper
Well I'm more than a bit tired and read "MIPS" as "NIPS" and was wondering what danielf was doing messing around with clothes pegs - doesn't seem the type to me but hey :shrug: Now I'm reading with interest in the hopes of working out what a "MIP" is :erm:

My nips are in fine shape thank you (and I use clamps, not pegs) :)

On topic: I had another dabble, and decided to switch to the home/office desk power saving scheme rather than laptop scheme in power saving options. (I had only switched off the monitor/disk hibernate options earlier). Using the desktop scheme increases the MIPS score to 6500 which is comparable to similarly specced systems.

Nice... (Now what shall I do with my newly found MIPS :D )

greencreeper 04-05-2005 01:12

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
There's an argument that power saving is pointless because the process of powering down and powering up shortens the life-span of the hardware. I always switch off power saving features because they nearly always cause problems. Like AV software.

Electrolyte01 04-05-2005 09:09

Re: Are my MIPS right?
 
You could always try BOINC just to see what the MIPS are from the processor.


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