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Electrolyte01 30-04-2005 18:46

Cooling problem
 
Hi all. Well, it's approx 23C outside at the moment (well here it is) and my CPU is running at about 67C under load. I've got both of my windows open wide and my ceiling fan on full foward, and it doesn't seem to be doing much of a good job.

I've got the retail fan I got with my Athlon 2400+ on, and I was wondering if I should get a more powerful fan before summer comes (when it would more than likely hit 30C without a problem, therefore my CPU would go straight over 70 and crash).

I've got 2 fans at the back of the PC taking air out, and 2 in my PSU. I've got 2 slots at the front of the case for another 2 fans as well.

What would be best? Getting 2 case fans for the front of the case or a more powerful CPU fan? Possibly both?

Thanks :(

Bifta 30-04-2005 18:49

Re: Cooling problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrolyte
Hi all. Well, it's approx 23C outside at the moment (well here it is) and my CPU is running at about 67C under load. I've got both of my windows open wide and my ceiling fan on full foward, and it doesn't seem to be doing much of a good job.

I've got the retail fan I got with my Athlon 2400+ on, and I was wondering if I should get a more powerful fan before summer comes (when it would more than likely hit 30C without a problem, therefore my CPU would go straight over 70 and crash).

I've got 2 fans at the back of the PC taking air out, and 2 in my PSU. I've got 2 slots at the front of the case for another 2 fans as well.

What would be best? Getting 2 case fans for the front of the case or a more powerful CPU fan? Possibly both?

Thanks :(

Intake fans make next to no difference, AMD themselves have said so. Get a decent HSF and some quality thermal paste (AS 5 for example)

swoop101 30-04-2005 18:50

Re: Cooling problem
 
First thing first, your Athlon can go to 90 before damage so no worry there.
How are you testing the temp? I use the MSI app to go with my mobo and when I did the last update the temp indicated dropped by 10c so it could be that.
Other than getting loads of new fans, get a better cpu cooler, look on overclockers for advice.

Electrolyte01 30-04-2005 19:00

Re: Cooling problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swoop101
How are you testing the temp? I use the MSI app to go with my mobo and when I did the last update the temp indicated dropped by 10c so it could be that.

Using AIDA32 and my HDD cooler. HDD cooler reports the heatsink at 56 and AIDA32 reports the CPU at 65C.

Could any one recommend me a good & quiet fan? Hard to find one that would do the right job these days.

bmxbandit 30-04-2005 19:03

Re: Cooling problem
 
my xp2000+ sits about 55-60 under full load when its hot, but i dont trust the figures... when i turn it on out of s3 (standby, comes on in a couple of seconds) it reckons the cpu is already at 39°C!
i think my mobo must report about 10-15° too high...but then it is a bit of a worry... :erm:

Bifta 30-04-2005 19:03

Re: Cooling problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrolyte
Using AIDA32 and my HDD cooler. HDD cooler reports the heatsink at 56 and AIDA32 reports the CPU at 65C.

Could any one recommend me a good & quiet fan? Hard to find one that would do the right job these days.

Quietest fans you can get are either Panaflo, Papst or the Akasa "Ultra Quiet", for a heatsink try the Thermalright SI97 (coupled with a 92mm panaflo fan if you can find one).

Electrolyte01 30-04-2005 19:10

Re: Cooling problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bifta
Quietest fans you can get are either Panaflo, Papst or the Akasa "Ultra Quiet", for a heatsink try the Thermalright SI97 (coupled with a 92mm panaflo fan if you can find one).

Would one of these cool it down enough? I have the 80MM version on the back of my case at the moment.

http://www.vantec.com.tw/stealth_fan.html

zing_deleted 30-04-2005 19:16

Re: Cooling problem
 
ive known simply reseating a cpu to reduce temps with of course new compound.Here is my highly technical way of testing temps are being measured correctly,if when hot you touch your heat sink if you feel a sharp pain and hear the sound ow you b**** then its running hot :D

Electrolyte01 30-04-2005 19:31

Re: Cooling problem
 
I think I'm gonna go with the Thermalright SI97, see if I can get a Panaflo 92MM and if not, I'll get the Akasa Ultra Quiet.
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Could someone rep Bifta for me? I havn't given enough out lately ;)

zing_deleted 30-04-2005 19:41

Re: Cooling problem
 
done :)

Richard M 30-04-2005 20:00

Re: Cooling problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bifta
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrolyte
Hi all. Well, it's approx 23C outside at the moment (well here it is) and my CPU is running at about 67C under load. I've got both of my windows open wide and my ceiling fan on full foward, and it doesn't seem to be doing much of a good job.

I've got the retail fan I got with my Athlon 2400+ on, and I was wondering if I should get a more powerful fan before summer comes (when it would more than likely hit 30C without a problem, therefore my CPU would go straight over 70 and crash).

I've got 2 fans at the back of the PC taking air out, and 2 in my PSU. I've got 2 slots at the front of the case for another 2 fans as well.

What would be best? Getting 2 case fans for the front of the case or a more powerful CPU fan? Possibly both?

Thanks :(

Intake fans make next to no difference, AMD themselves have said so.

Not to the CPU but a couple of decent ones in the front are good for your hard disks.

jtwn 30-04-2005 21:08

Re: Cooling problem
 
I'd recommend the zalman silent fans...pretty good. But hey, with the A64 winchester i can turn the fan off under low loads and it idles fine @ ~32-34 :D

Bifta 30-04-2005 21:32

Re: Cooling problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard M
Not to the CPU but a couple of decent ones in the front are good for your hard disks.

Only if your hard disks actually sit in front of the fans, which in most cases they don't.
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrolyte
Would one of these cool it down enough? I have the 80MM version on the back of my case at the moment.

http://www.vantec.com.tw/stealth_fan.html

Vantec are reknowned for shifting very little air, best avoided.

paulyoung666 30-04-2005 21:38

Re: Cooling problem
 
hang on , if it was working ok , and now it isnt working ok , then you need to work out why it isnt now working ok instead of throwing money at it , funnily enough , the same happens where i work , something breaks and they start throwing money at it instead of going to the root cause ;) , if you see what i mean :disturbd: :D :D :D

Bifta 30-04-2005 21:50

Re: Cooling problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
hang on , if it was working ok , and now it isnt working ok , then you need to work out why it isnt now working ok instead of throwing money at it , funnily enough , the same happens where i work , something breaks and they start throwing money at it instead of going to the root cause ;) , if you see what i mean :disturbd: :D :D :D

I think he did work out why it's getting hotter .. it's no longer winter.

bmxbandit 30-04-2005 21:54

Re: Cooling problem
 
have a spring clean, scoop all the dust out... if your pc is as bad as mine it'll do wonders for your temperatures...

Electrolyte01 30-04-2005 21:56

Re: Cooling problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bmxbandit
have a spring clean, scoop all the dust out... if your pc is as bad as mine it'll do wonders for your temperatures...

Only had the processor for a few weeks, heatsink was totally clean when I first put it in. Nothing else was dusty when I last checked (about a week ago).

paulyoung666 30-04-2005 22:04

Re: Cooling problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bifta
I think he did work out why it's getting hotter .. it's no longer winter.


well of course it is , like his room goes from -20 c to + 30 c in a year :erm: , dont think so somehow :disturbd: , what i was getting at was , is it a build up of dust , a clogged up intake or something like that ;)

Bifta 30-04-2005 22:17

Re: Cooling problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
well of course it is , like his room goes from -20 c to + 30 c in a year :erm: , dont think so somehow :disturbd: , what i was getting at was , is it a build up of dust , a clogged up intake or something like that ;)

If one of your rooms go from -20 to +30 I'd suggest you install some form of heating / air conditioning, my point is that (for example) where I keep all my computer gear is markedly colder in the winter than it is in the summer, funny that. (and he doesn't have intake fans, did you not read the thread?)

Ramrod 30-04-2005 23:54

Re: Cooling problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb
ive known simply reseating a cpu to reduce temps with of course new compound.

Thats what I found with my old PC.....it made a massive difference :tu:
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Scott, if all else fails, just take the side off the case and perhaps even blow an office fan at the innards.............

Electrolyte01 01-05-2005 00:47

Re: Cooling problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
Scott, if all else fails, just take the side off the case and perhaps even blow an office fan at the innards.............

Easy for you to say, I wouldn't be able to get a desk fan near it without it getting in my way ;)

nffc 01-05-2005 00:49

Re: Cooling problem
 
Mine's perfect (AMD). 24 C inside. CPU 40, case 39.

One fan in the centre of the side window, one at the back plus power supply.

May fit a fan in the front over the summer, I have a spare kicking around at home.

67C is hot though. I would consider a new HSF, I got a new one and it knocked over 10 C off my temps.

Ramrod 01-05-2005 01:27

Re: Cooling problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrolyte
Easy for you to say, I wouldn't be able to get a desk fan near it without it getting in my way ;)

So just try re-seating your cpu heatsink......

zing_deleted 01-05-2005 01:30

Re: Cooling problem
 
I know this is gonna sound stupid but, take the cpu out blow around the socket ,reseat cleaned cpu ,apply thermal paste ,reseat heatsink

Any small particles of dust etc in the socket can leave resistance,this can in itself can cause cpu to overheat

Graham 01-05-2005 02:17

Re: Cooling problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrolyte
my CPU is running at about 67C under load [...]

I've got the retail fan I got with my Athlon 2400+ on, and I was wondering if I should get a more powerful fan

Retail CPU fans will do their job, but that's about it. I use the Zalman CU heatsink and fan and I've never had a CPU temp above about 56 degrees.

Have a look at http://cableforum.co.uk/board/showth...ghlight=zalman this thread for some more information.

keithwalton 01-05-2005 03:08

Re: Cooling problem
 
Case temperatures do matter, having good flow in and out can make a big difference in terms of stability and overclocking potential.
nffc your case is running a tad warm! a well vented case shouldnt go much more than ambient, mine sits around 25-28c most of the time.

As others have said check the temp of the heatsink physically, 56c is rather warm and suggests there is no problem between the cpu and heatsink so reseating it wont help

Electrolyte01 01-05-2005 09:51

Re: Cooling problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham
Retail CPU fans will do their job, but that's about it. I use the Zalman CU heatsink and fan and I've never had a CPU temp above about 56 degrees.

Have a look at http://cableforum.co.uk/board/showth...ghlight=zalman this thread for some more information.

I would have got one of them ages ago, but my motherboard doesn't have mounting screw holes :(


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