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Russ 30-04-2005 11:00

For those who condone mob justice....
 
......this is why vigilantism doesn't work.

paulyoung666 30-04-2005 11:03

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surely he was just trying to protect his own , its a shme he got it wrong though :(

Neil 30-04-2005 11:07

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Originally Posted by Russ D
......this is why vigilantism doesn't work.

Hardly vigilantism Russ....:angel:

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Originally Posted by BBC
A man who tried to prevent a boy from being attacked was beaten unconscious by the lad's father, who had mistaken him for the attacker.
Derek Townsend was standing over the boy and holding a table leg to fend off a threatening man wielding a pick axe.

But Robert Piper, 35, wrongly thought Mr Townsend was attacking his son and hit him over the head with an iron bar.

A bad misunderstanding with a nasty end result yes, but vigilantism?

I don't think so anyway....:shrug:

Russ 30-04-2005 11:08

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Isn't vigilantism taking the law in to your own hands?

JohnHorb 30-04-2005 11:11

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Are we talking about Mr Townsend taking the law into his own hands with the table leg, or the father with the iron bar? I wander what would have happened to the boy if NEITHER of these two had acted.

Russ 30-04-2005 11:13

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My point is about Mr Townsend - as with most 'mob justice' the facts and rarely researched. Remember the paediatrician having her house vandalised?

Damien 30-04-2005 11:16

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This is slightly different as he thought someone has attacking in his son and acted in the heat of the moment. Mob justice is a more calculated attack on someone people believe to be in the wrong, usually without facts. But this was a father in the haste of the moment

Ramrod 30-04-2005 11:39

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This was a tragic misunderstanding. I don't think it was an act of a vigilante, just a father defending his son and reading the situation incorrectly. :(

andy 1 30-04-2005 11:41

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if the police and the magistrates did there job properly,there would be no need for vigilantism.

Neil 30-04-2005 11:50

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
This was a tragic misunderstanding. I don't think it was an act of a vigilante, just a father defending his son and reading the situation incorrectly. :(

My thoughts exactly. :tu:

It would be vigilantism if there had been a man going round beating up children (for example), & the locals organised a gang/group to go after him & give him a good shoeing.

Haste of the moment?-yes, vigilantism?-not in my view. :shrug:

Richard M 30-04-2005 12:09

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Originally Posted by Russ D
Isn't vigilantism taking the law in to your own hands?

I don't call hitting someone with an iron bar over the head vigilantism, not in this context anyway.

Graham M 30-04-2005 12:42

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What would you have done in this situation? If your own son/daughter was about to be bludgeoned with an axe? Would you run in, wait and assess the situation while anything could happen?

greencreeper 30-04-2005 19:10

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You're all missing the moral of the story - that people who try be helpful end up getting hurt. Stay out of it - live a long life :)

zoombini 01-05-2005 00:35

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But someones son's might not.

Angua 01-05-2005 00:40

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A well meant action "hopefully" gets its own reward!
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Seriously though. I would prefer someone stood up to protect my children than did nothing.

Paul 01-05-2005 00:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
Isn't vigilantism taking the law in to your own hands?

Well, as you say, according to dictionary.com a vililante is "One who takes or advocates the taking of law enforcement into one's own hands". However, in this case I think he was simply acting on instinct to defend his son, rather than deliberately taking the law into his own hands.

zoombini 01-05-2005 01:42

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Where was the "mob" ?

kronas 01-05-2005 01:48

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Originally Posted by zoombini
Where was the "mob" ?

no mob although if piper was going out there with a group of people and trying to take his sons 'threat' out then would that be self defense ?

greencreeper 01-05-2005 07:03

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Originally Posted by Angua
A well meant action "hopefully" gets its own reward!

Never considered life support to be a reward before :erm: :D


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Originally Posted by Paul M
Well, as you say, according to dictionary.com a vililante is "One who takes or advocates the taking of law enforcement into one's own hands". However, in this case I think he was simply acting on instinct to defend his son, rather than deliberately taking the law into his own hands.

And by acting on instinct, excessively violent ones at that, he took the law into his own hands. It's a bit of a mess though. A woman can do a Little Mo iron special on the husband and the courts would look reasonably favourably on her, though it does depend on the judge. The same woman can protect her son from the husband and be guilty of at least manslaughter.


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