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Memory tools
Hi Guys,
Sorry if this has been covered before - I had a search but can't find anything. Basically I need a tool that will tell me what type, and how much memory a pc will take. I had a look at the system scanner from crucial, but that requires internet access, and not all the machines that I need to survey have that.... Suggestions? |
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I think the said software is called Motherboard manual :D Sisoft gives you a max amount and type thats in there now ,dunno if everest does.
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The company that owns the machines, don't really have anything in the way of an IT policy, and don't seem to believe in keeping manuals... :) - and their machines seem to have come from where ever they could get them the cheapest |
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Have a look at the free sisoft sandra :D And i got a head ache now :D :D
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pretty certain that everest does this :) |
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Ta guys
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Why don't you have a look here and see if there is anything that might do the job? There appear to be several utilities there that might be what you need........
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Type is easy - look at an existing chip. Or am I missing something? :erm: As for type, well I think modern PCs are more flexible but in the days of olde you had allsorts of weird requirements, such as no empty slots in a bank.
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Hi all
Have recently hooked up to internet at home. Had usual scares, worrying about trojans, spyware, adware etc (which one to trust). Anyways think I've got all that sorted. Now fully equiped with norton, Ad-aware, spybot and Zonealarm. All scans now show noprobs, but even when not hooked up to internet my PC is soooooooo slow. Startup takes a good 5 mins (have used msconfig.exe) to minimise files loading from boot. Gone through registry.exe. Have I missed something or what??? Maybe it's just my processor cant hack it anymore (Celeron 500MHz, plus 224Mb RAM). Having gone through the trauma of all the above, am now considerring dwnloading some kind of memory manager such as PC mightymax, PC pitstop or tune-up. But due to my growing paranoia I thought I'd best ask round first. even deleting a shortcut from my desktop takes about 10 seconds, sometimes! Help! |
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:welcome: you dont say what operating system your using,if its xp with all the apps running you are have shortage of ram,memory managers in my experience will not help,I would advise either more ram or to run win98 se instead of xp
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Sorry, was in a rush earlier. I'm actually running windows 98
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Everest will also tell you the make/model of the motherboard, and from there, it's a quick visit to Crucial's memory selector - or the motherboard maker's site or a search engine - actually, so far, I think everest's memory slot description has been pretty accurate - most boards seem to have as many slots as it says.
The knottiest problem - though it MAY have gone away with DDR memory, was the module size/bank limit - some systems could not use single sided / high density 256Mb SDRAM DIMMS - the same ones also don't support 512Mb modules, but can run low density / double sided 256Mb and any 128Mb. Going back further, you can find even worse examples, with bank by bank limits, though that may be pre-Pentium. I don't suppose that you'll meet anything with SIMMS - not worth updating anyway - though SIMMS just about staggered into the Pentium era, they were obsolete by Pentium 2. |
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to be honest how fast can you expect a 500 celeron to go,you need the virus scan,you need the firewall ,chuck some ram at it as a few friends see if they have any or know someone who might have some old ram to try
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Pretty much what I suspected- been on my mind to upgrade. Well, I did a few bits and bobs along the way over the years. Think it originally had 68Mb RAM- The rest I salvaged from the scrapheap (literally). Will check everest and see if worth updating the CPU or the whole dam lot.
Cheers guys Always good to get second opinions |
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what you really need to do is deside exactlly what you want it to do,if it does that, then stick with it ,otherwise its a few hundred quid spent on something you do not really need.If on the other hand it does not then a new build would be the way to go if affordable,its all down to choice.If you browse the net and word process then your fine.If you want to decode video or create dvds or want to play games then .......
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Well I ran (although deathmarched would be a more accurate description) Everest last night. Very useful bit of software! 2.5Hrs later(yes it was that slow!), after my computer finally managed to load and print a report for me, got lots of useful info. I just need some help with the translation though. Not sure what to look at, but here's a few stats for ya:
Physical Memory: Total 223 MB Used 169 MB Free 53 MB Utilization 76 % Swap Space: Total 1669 MB Used 92 MB Free 1576 MB Utilization 6 % Virtual Memory: Total 1892 MB Used 262 MB Free 1630 MB Utilization 14 % Benchmark test: Mem latency 211.8 ns Mem write 112 Mb/s Mem read 406 Mb/s Clutching at straws, but updating my BIOS wouldn't help I guess (currently 1998, V4.51PG Pheonix tech). Just thinking in terms of boot speed really. Basically I mainly need comp for internet, word processing and some graphics software. As I say this is all a learning curve to me at the moment. Any pearls of wisdom (not the Norman kind). |
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The test - not really needed, the identification stuff like SPD, memory slots etc. is done by the time the display is up.
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SPD?
My main gripe is even when not connected to internet, and anti-virus, anti-spyware disabled, my computer is still extremely, pathetically, fingertapping, wall starringly sloooooooooow. Before I had broadband fitted things ran nice and smooth. I could understand it if I had stuff running in the background, but it's slow even without that stuff now. All scans are clean- I've done so many scans of every kind I can think over the last wk1/2, I've lost track. The only way I could defrag (my initial suspition was a messy use of harddrive space, after dwnloading latest versions/ updates for explorer, win98, MSmessenger, RealPlayer etc.) was in Safe mode and still is. So something is working in the bckgrnd but I don't know what. I've tried chucking more RAM it at, but my motherboard doesn't seem to shift past 256MB- it did accept 384 but only the once, then wouldn't boot up. Just told me there was a fault with device 3 section B (??) and to run windows setup. Basically 1. why isn't it running like it used to when not using internet? 2. What the smeg do I have to do to get it back the way it was? I know I have an old spec machine, but if it was ok before, whats caused it to slow down. Sorry guys, rant over- It's just am trying to write up a PhD (and yes backed up a few versions BEFORE broadband was installed). Am so close to finishing and now I cant even open Microsoft word! :mad: :grind: :banghead: |
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If you want it to do some singing and dancing and your not happy with it doing the waltz im afraid the only option is upgrade |
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I know what your saying. I've tried disabling them all via msconfig.exe so they dont even startup from boot, so wouldn't that just leave those progs sitting idle on my harddrive without using up RAM?
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Some programs start up without sitting there
Try looking in processes see if anything from a/v runs there,just cuz there isn't an icon in the tray does not mean its not running |
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I've been faffing around with dXdiag, msconfig, registry, easycleaner, scandisk, notron, ad-ware, spybot, defrag and RAM, but ya can ney change the laws of physics captain- and physics was never my strong point.
My computer just sont have the powrrrr. Upgrade seem inevitable, huh? __________________ I know I'm stuborn, so here I go again. To get back to actual title of this subject- MEMORY TOOLS. !!WARNING!! Am about to go all treky. Your captain Piccard in your saucy NCC-1701-D (get it, saucer section), with ya Geordie LaForge and Data, and here I am captain Kirk riding around shotgun in a battered old NCC-1701-1 (i think). Are there any tools I can throw at Scotty dwn in my engine room, to kick his crappy scottish accent whinging, ass?? |
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aye captain but we have a warp core breach and had to jetison the core
We need a new core captain and while your at it we could do with a new curcuit,and while your at it captain if we give it some fresh lithium crystals it may keep up core = processor curcuit= motherboard lithium crystals=ram |
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:sniper: We come in peace, shoot to kill!
We come in peace= me on this forum for advice Shoot to kill= setting to auto destruct, beam back to spacedock and build a new enterprise! __________________ :LOL: :jk: Nevermind, thanks anyways. Think spock went awall on me a while ago.. I'm off in search of him, and a new ship. Will let you know when I'm back in orbit. Death to the NCC-1701-1 and Scotty- auto destruct..... activated. Asta la vista, baby Scotty= virtual memory. Well let's face it he never did much real work. |
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Scotty pulls it out of the bag. Auto-destruct stopped at Tmius 2 seconds.
Looks like I was just being impatient. I currently have EIGHT open windows (that includes MSword, MSmessenger, Iexplorer, all whilst listening to some MP3 files- Rage against the machine naturally!) and all seems well. Try explaining that one. Alls I can say is YAY!! Must just be a case of sitting out the storm for about 20mins after the damn thing first boots up. Weird thing is I seem to now only have 128Mb RAM! Go figure!! Will take RAM sticks out and re-seat again....... or is that just tempting fate? |
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worth trying
And set phazers to stun for not giving an old tired pc a chance :LOL: |
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Just doing a quick fly-by to let you know all is still ship-shape, curising about warp 8 these days. Think the doc (Norton anti-virus) wasn't getting on with scotty (virtual mem) so think confining him to quarters did the trick (I disabled the auto-protect). Anways saw this and thought of you. Something to relieve those day-to-day pressures and strains. http://www.wavhounds.com/fart-trek.html
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