TFT Monitors
 

My parents are getting me either a 17" or 19" TFT screen for my PC, since the 15" CRT I have now is 10 years old and one of the guns is starting to fail. The only thing is, I have heard TFT arn't any good with fast moving images such as games, and so look "blury" on the screen.

What I'm asking is would a CRT screen be better for me playing games, or would a TFT screen be the same?

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Depends on the response time, and even the way that's measured.

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I'm planning on a Dell 24" 2405FPW Widescreen 12ms 1920*1200 LCD Monitor :D

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Well I think my dad is going for an LG 17" TFT, with a response time of 16MS.

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IMO 17 inch is the best as 19 and 17 inch tfts tend to have the same res of 1280 x 1024 16 ms should be ok although aldi of all places were selling one at 8

One thing to remember response times are measured on the white and some can be tuned to give better response rates than with colours,best thing is try to see them working instead of buying blind.Also find out the dead pixel limit on the screens as some companies have better replacement than others,some companies policy on this can leave you with a screen with loads of problem pixels and nothing you can do about it

I myself wouldn't buy a tft if im gonna mostly play games I got a nice flat 19" crt that im very happy with

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That should be fine...........mine has a response of 20ms and it's no problem when gaming.
CRT's do my eyes in..............
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What size is yours though? 17"?
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I've got another question aswell. My laptop has a TFT screen, that supports up to 1024x768, but if I have a resolution lower than that (such as 800x600) the screen looks weird, as if the screen was using too many pixels to render just 1 pixel (so basically, it looked very blocky).

Do TFT monitors STILL do this? Or do they switch resolutions just like CRT monitors?

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Are you really asking Ramrod if his is 17"? :naughty: :disturbd:

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Yep, the lower the response time the better for any fast-moving action like a game. Same goes for a LCD TV. Response time is ms as in milliseconds. However, the better the response time, the more expensive the monitor.

Beware of the way the response time is measured. Not all measurements are of equal value - for example you will often find the calculation based on the time taken for the screen to go from completely black to completely white, or vv. Which is so useful, because what we all really want to do with our screens is sit there watching them strobe. :erm:

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Yes - although my 17inch tft can show 1024x768 (which isn't it's natural res) ok.

They switch just fine - just can't show it properly.;)

edit - you can get it to show a sharp picture on a lower res - but you have to make it a smaller picture so there's not much point. It can end up like having a postage stamp in the middle of the screen.

If you're going to play a lot of games at less than 1024x768 (presuming you get a 17/19inch tft) then you need to decide if you can put up with the 'bluriness'

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Thanks dilli.

EDIT: Can some one rep dilli for me? I've already done it too many times :(

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TFTs are so much crisper to start with, when you deliberately run them at a lower resolution you can tell that the screen is using more than one of its own pixels to draw the bigger pixels being sent to it by the PC's gfx card. CRT monitors are not so crisp so the effect is not so noticeable. What do you have that you need to run at 800x600?

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Almost all of my games. Halo runs at 640x480, everything else except MOHSH runs at 800x600, which MOHSH runs at 1024x768.

I can't have them at a high resolution, as my frames drop big time (I only have a Radeon 8500LE :( )

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'tis done. :)

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By the looks of it I will have to go with a 17" Flat CRT.

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Well in that case save up for a better gfx card or if that's not practical get a nice big crt.

But make SURE it's got a nice high refresh rate.
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Well this LG one I am looking at on EBuyer is 17", 1280x1024 max resolution at 85HZ. I've had to put up with 60 and 75HZ for so long I think 85 would be best.

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May I recommend PC World to help you decide. They have a range of TFT monitors on which I am sure they will demo your favourite game if they think you are going to buy that expensive system of theirs with the five year extended warranty. ;)

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After all the bad things I have heard about PC World? No thanks. Also, the PC World for me is all the way in Birmingham :(

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You don't have to buy from them, just use them to demo the machines ;)

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You will see no difference if you run at 60Hz on a TFT because there are no scanlines.

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But in this case he's on about a crt :)

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http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=81774

Oh wow - "free shipping" item...

Well, not quite - select supersaver anf it makes it free shipping, but leaves the shipping surcharge.

I know I have a go at e-buyer, well, I hope it's not prophetic!
Ordered my first couple of items with them, standard delivery .. Friday 22nd
They then tell me it'a upgraded to Thursday .. but it hasn't appeared today, and no sign of the consignment number in the trace on citilink.

Seems typical of the beef people have with them - I'll be rattling some cages tomorrow if it doesn't arrive for the standard delivery day, otherwise I could have taken the cheaper supersaver.

Mind you, one of the comments said "they delivered ontime - a first for them" - now from other places, I've had things on "allow 28 days for delivery" - if you can't stick to it, don't say it!

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In reply to your question Scott..............my screen is 17" and displays at 1280 x 1024
Whats your maximum budget? We could have a look for a TFT in your price range. Personally I would go for a TFT 'cos it's better for the eyes with extended use................

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Can't argue with the eye thing......

I am SO happy that I made the change to a 17inch tft.

In fact I'm thinking of going bigger myself :)

p.s. I've had my reps now - you can stop :) (Thanks)

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Well I think my max is about £210, but this resolution thing is putting me off a TFT.

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I still can't believe that you actually want to buy a monitor based on the fact that you run late 80s-era resolutions.
I thought you were going to buy a graphics card anyway?

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When I start to get my £30 a week EMA in my next course :rolleyes:

EDIT: And you know why I have to run at low resolutions when in games :erm:

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Thats easy then.......buy a really cr*ppy TFT who's native resolution is 800 x 600 --it'll save you money--if you can find one :disturbd:

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You had best start running mate ;)

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Yeah? You and who's 'nade? :D

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How about using your current one just for those games, and a tft for the rest - you could get a switch to switch between the monitors.

Or play your low res stuff on a tv (if the card has tv out)...

Seems like too much of an opportunity to pass up on myself (getting a tft I mean).

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Not enough room on my desk for both monitors. And my TV is knackered, that's why my parents are getting me a new monitor and a TV card.

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I use a nice 19" TFT at work, and it's a beauty. At home, the 6 year old CRT is on its last legs, and when it goes it'll definitely be replaced by a TFT (LG L1715S 17" TFT 16ms £150).

It's so much nicer looking at a TFT than a CRT. Especially when you're concentrating, ie writing code and staring gormlessly for inspiration :D

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Thks is my planned next big purchase, get rid of my three crt moniitors and regain some desk space..

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Well my dad has found a 12MS 17" TFT for £180, so I think he may be going for that :)

EDIT: Correction, it was a 19" 12MS LG TFT monitor.

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Cracking price where when how :)

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Just went to Comet and got an Acer 19" 16MS TFT, with a max resolution of 1280x1024 and a contrast ratio of 500:1. I cannot believe how big this thing is and the picture quality from it!

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I don't understand this whole motion blur thing.

My monitor's response is 50ms and it's fine!

I have seen terrible smearing on LCD TVs playing scaled Xbox though.

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50ms!!!??? AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Ive never heard of one with such a slow response,what is it?. A 50 ms response equates to a refresh rate of 20 hz very poor indeed,a normal tv is 25 hz

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Electrolyte,
I`m considering one of these Acer monitors, just wondering if you have experienced any issues with it or are you still impressed?. I would appreciate any comments before I part with my hard earned cash, thanks.:)

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I would recommend it to any one, I have had no problems, the picture quality is fantastic and is very good for games :)

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Guess I may buy a tft, 19" crt are to big to lug about with a large lian li case :D

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Just to post an update to this, bought one today, on the whole quite pleased with it. Two small niggles, there is no height adjustment (need to adjust chair :) ) and it seems slightly on the dark side, but for the money a good buy I think. Also no dead or faulty pixels as yet. So thanks for the heads up Electrolyte. :tu:

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I am soon to buy mine, anyone able to recommend a very good gaming suitable widescreen tft for under 200quid.