Cable Forum

Cable Forum (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/index.php)
-   General IT Discussion (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/forumdisplay.php?f=19)
-   -   a clean install of XP (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/showthread.php?t=27336)

ikthius 16-04-2005 16:51

a clean install of XP
 
hey everyone, I know it has been done before, but I just want to clarify something, before my mate lets me loose to reek havoc on his "rig" :D

he has win 98 (se i think) but he has xp that he wants to install.

I suggested he does a clean install so here goes.

he needs to:
A: back up his data & take notes of any configuration like internet
B: make up a boot disk, just incase.
C: put in the windows XP disk then reboot his system
D: gets the option to format his system & choose NTFS.
E: just tell it to install with all connections still attached, like modem

this should do it, shouldn't it or what else should I tell him.


cheers everyone.

ik
pips for the help

homealone 16-04-2005 17:00

Re: a clean install of XP
 
make sure you have installation disk for the motherboard chipset drivers, especially if there is onboard sound & NIC, also drivers for the graphics card & printer.

dilli-theclaw 16-04-2005 17:00

Re: a clean install of XP
 
You could run the check program that's on the XP cd first to make sure that all is compatible.

ikthius 16-04-2005 17:02

Re: a clean install of XP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by homealone
make sure you have installation disk for the motherboard chipset drivers, especially if there is onboard sound & NIC, also drivers for the graphics card & printer.

these would be installed at end of XP instalation?

ik
__________________

Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
You could run the check program that's on the XP cd first to make sure that all is compatible.

yip thought of that, we are doing the instalation tomorrow, but I am just getting prepared today.

ik

dilli-theclaw 16-04-2005 17:04

Re: a clean install of XP
 
When I' do a fresh install of XP - I do.... Anti virus > chipset drivers > sound card (if it's seperate) > gfx drivers.

If it's going to have sp2 then I think I'd install that before the antivirus. Unless it's got sp2 already on the cd of course.

edit - and I don't mean anything by this..... but if it's not a %100 legal XP disc then do NOT have ANY network connections on it while installing.

homealone 16-04-2005 17:14

Re: a clean install of XP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ikthius
these would be installed at end of XP instalation?

ik
__________________


I can't remember if it asked for the motherboard drivers during the install, or if I ran that seperately afterwards, I think it was afterwards, - the printer was picked up during the installation & it asked for the disk.

paulyoung666 16-04-2005 17:48

Re: a clean install of XP
 
make sure it is not connected to the internet while instaling , and if you can make sure you have an upto date copy of an antivurus and firewall package to dump straight on it after it is installed :tu:

ikthius 16-04-2005 18:01

Re: a clean install of XP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
but if it's not a %100 legal XP disc then do NOT have ANY network connections on it while installing.

Not sure, will find out when I get there. all I know is that he has a copy of XP

Quote:

Originally Posted by homealone
I can't remember if it asked for the motherboard drivers during the install, or if I ran that seperately afterwards, I think it was afterwards, - the printer was picked up during the installation & it asked for the disk.

I remember my printer got picked up, but I was not asked for any other drivers

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
make sure it is not connected to the internet while instaling , and if you can make sure you have an upto date copy of an antivurus and firewall package to dump straight on it after it is installed :tu:

nice touch, I will find out what he has.

ik

ikthius 18-04-2005 17:44

Re: a clean install of XP
 
well,

Thank you everyone for your help, after all that I was trying to do, the git, went and just upgraded without reformatting his drive, oh well, I take it he was impatient, cause he done it without me.

he backed up a hell of a lot of data apparently 7 CDs worth, and he never lost anything when it changed from 98se to XP. Better to be safe than sorry!

but he is still on FAT32 which should not bother him too much.

so again thank you for the help, which in the end I did not need.

as promised you all get pipped for your efforts

ik

MadGamer 18-04-2005 18:32

Re: a clean install of XP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ikthius
well,

Thank you everyone for your help, after all that I was trying to do, the git, went and just upgraded without reformatting his drive, oh well, I take it he was impatient, cause he done it without me.

he backed up a hell of a lot of data apparently 7 CDs worth, and he never lost anything when it changed from 98se to XP. Better to be safe than sorry!

but he is still on FAT32 which should not bother him too much.

so again thank you for the help, which in the end I did not need.

as promised you all get pipped for your efforts

ik

If he wants to convert to NTFS later, he can use this command:

convert c: /fs:ntfs

Substitute the HDD letter to match the one the install is on. You need to execute the command in CMD.

ikthius 18-04-2005 20:11

Re: a clean install of XP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne A
If he wants to convert to NTFS later, he can use this command:

convert c: /fs:ntfs

Substitute the HDD letter to match the one the install is on. You need to execute the command in CMD.

will he lose info on his machine if he does this?

ik

Gareth 18-04-2005 20:14

Re: a clean install of XP
 
Nope, theoretically, it leaves all your data intact.

Dave Stones 18-04-2005 20:16

Re: a clean install of XP
 
no

swoop101 18-04-2005 20:21

Re: a clean install of XP
 
The only possible problem in changing to ntfs is that the cluster size might default to 512bytes instead of 4kb.
The info to fix this is found at http://aumha.org/win5/a/ntfscvt.php

ikthius 18-04-2005 20:28

Re: a clean install of XP
 
so how can he check what file system he has just now before I give him this info?
and just to be on the safe side I will check as well here so that he knows exactly how to do it.

ik

swoop101 18-04-2005 20:36

Re: a clean install of XP
 
If he was on 98 he is on fat32.
The info mentioned, with the app. is easy to follow so there will be no problems.

Gareth 18-04-2005 20:41

Re: a clean install of XP
 
Here's Microsoft's KB article on using convert...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;307881

homealone 18-04-2005 20:43

Re: a clean install of XP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swoop101
If he was on 98 he is on fat32.
The info mentioned, with the app. is easy to follow so there will be no problems.

I did it the other day, with no problems - i.e. upgrade from 98se to XPpro, got it all as I wanted it then ran the convert tool. It is fast, too, I was expecting something like a format or defrag, but it was much quicker than that. ;)

ikthius 18-04-2005 21:10

Re: a clean install of XP
 
ok, I never actually completed it for myself, but I did do a screen shot for him to follow.

but I have another question, it may be stupid, but hey.

when I click start > All Programs > Accessories > Command Prompt
I have it customised with my own colour scheme, but when I click start > run and type cmd
why is it that the command prompt has defaulted to the original colour scheme?
and what is the difference between and what can you do or not do in either?
is it like being a SU in linux?

ik
p.s. pips coming to the ones I have not pipped in this thread

ikthius 30-04-2005 20:00

Re: a clean install of XP
 
Hey everyone,

My wee brother wants his computer which is XP SP2 converted from FAT332 to NTFS.

I did the convert c: /fs:ntfs
but I get this message:
The type of file system is FAT32
Enter current volume label for drive C:


There is nothing about this from the microsofts page in one of the posts above about volume labels.

what would I put in here?

ik

EDIT: not to worry, I found it

deadite66 30-04-2005 21:58

Re: a clean install of XP
 
if the pc had win98 is it powerfull enough to run XP

paulyoung666 30-04-2005 22:00

Re: a clean install of XP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deadite66
if the pc had win98 is it powerfull enough to run XP


should that not be 'it is' , anyway , no , not always the case if you want it to run at anything like a decent useable system ;)

nffc 30-04-2005 22:00

Re: a clean install of XP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deadite66
if the pc had win98 is it powerfull enough to run XP

Possibly, what spec is it?

printerman 01-05-2005 13:24

Re: a clean install of XP
 
I know you are going from win98 ro xp but i always use this.

http://www.padring.com/soft/Utilitie...alEdition.html

Overkill i know! but you can never tell. Compared to the price of a disk, hunting for drivers is a nightmare sometimes.

ikthius 01-05-2005 23:29

Re: a clean install of XP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Printerman580
I know you are going from win98 ro xp but i always use this.

http://www.padring.com/soft/Utilitie...alEdition.html

Overkill i know! but you can never tell. Compared to the price of a disk, hunting for drivers is a nightmare sometimes.

it all went smoothly ages ago Pman.

thanks anyway

ik


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 19:42.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum