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Allegedly coming in June from: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds20314.html

Now if this is true and the base pack will be more than the equivalent Sky offering + line rental I can see a whole lot of people ditching the TV completely and either freeviewing or getting a dish.

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But it will still be cheaper than Sky plus BT. Sky base pack is £13.50 and BT already charge £10.50 per month. Thus, that would be £24 per month. If NTL base pack goes up £2 it will still only be £21.50 per month.

Not that I am in favour of the price rises, mind, and I really hope that the £1 rise in line rental from £9.50 to £10.50 is actually a move from 321 to the 5p tariff.

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Judging by the complete lashing NTL has recieved in the Sky Vs NTL DTV thread, you'd think this would be the opposite of what they would want to do.

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Hmmm I must remember not to do mental arithmetic when I haven't woken up properly. :dunce:

Still if they keep the 3Meg at the price it is at I can see people going for a LLU company (assuming there will be one in their area) for the rental and internet.
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The last price rise for TV was attributed to Sky putting their prices up.

Sky haven't (to the best of my knowledge) changed their prices so why increase them this time?

Aside of course to fund the redundancies and directors bonuses.

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Again, whilst I'm against unneccessary price rises, ntl do not base their policy decisions on the views of a couple of hundred people on a website.

Senior management don't even read such sites. They are not representative of the customer base as a whole.

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and thats what eventually will kick them in the ass very hard..

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I hope the £1 phone line rental increase is just a mirror of BT, i.e. it is not really an "increase" but a forced migration from the basic 321 tariff (currently £9.50) to the 5p tariff (currently £10.50 matching BT's 5.5p BT Together).

The family pack (and all others except base pack) are only going up by £1 so this would be putting prices up because BT did rather than Sky, this time!

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No it won't.

If companies made major policy decisions based on the views of a few hundred people on a minority interest website then they'd pretty soon go bust.

You need to be aware that companies like ntl, Sky, BT etc have MILLIONS of customers to cater for, not just the couple of hundred on a website.

If every single member of sites like CableForum and DigitalSpy cancelled their services with whichever company they are with, then the companies concerned would barely notice.

That's always the problem with 'protest' websites, they are simply not big enough to make any sort of difference.

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Scrothead, thing is eventually if you shout loud enough the companies dont have any choice, ask hoover ?

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Now reported here.

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Fantastic £10.50 a month for a line I don't use and a customer service that takes 3 days to supply call divert functionality to the line (inclusive on the BT qequivilant package).

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If I may ask, why don't you use the line?

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Is this a premature April Fools Story?

I refuse to get excited about this until I see an official announcement from NTL.


:D

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Do not expect an official announcement from NTL until May's bill! ;)

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I can confirm this story is true.

We have had the brief today with the new prices. All are correct apart from talk unlimited which will only reduce to £16.50.

The new line rental (10.50) is not the direct competitior to the 5.5p talk plan and will instead still follow the structure of the 3-2-1 tarrif but offer local free calls to any landline (bt or ntl) number at weekend only.

all tv packs go up £1 apart from the base which goes up £2.

Broadband prices are frozen and dial up goes up £1 to £13.50.

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Yes and that proves my point.

In Hoover's case it was the vast majority of their purchasing customers (tens of thousands in fact), not a few hundred people on a website.

Also Hoover had actually lied and screwed up, whereas ntl are just increasing prices, as EVERY company does EVERY year, because none of them are registered charities and if costs increase to the company this has to be passed on.

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Erm think you have typo'd his name there. Just in case you mis-read it his forum name is
Scrotnig
Unless of course you were going out of your way to be rude for no apparent reason :erm:

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Well that is just stupid - will NTL still be offering the 5p tariff for £10.50 and will I be able to move onto that for no extra charge?

Edit: I just noticed Telewest's basic phone line rental is £10.50 per month and is called Talk Weekend. It gives free local and national calls only at weekends. It will be interesting to see if NTL adopt this pre-merger!

Do you mean the standalone TV packs are going up £1 as well as the line rental or because of it? Will basepack be going up to £21.50 or £22.50?

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Was thinking exactly the same thing as you Bob in regards to the line rental pricing :)

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Base is going up to £21.50 from £19.50, all other tv prices increase by £1 because of the increase in rental

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:td: :nono: :redcard: why o why !!

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Probably, because he doesn't need it, but NTL force people to have a line with their tv service. I would have kept NTL tv, if they didn't have this stupid policy.

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Because I use a BT ISDN line. Mrs H uses the second analogue line as her biz no, the first is our home number and the digital is the fax number.
NTL cannot replicate this for any sensible money - e.g. 3 analogue lines is more.

I'm now using the line to terminate an 0800 fax number which diverts to a 0845 digital fax service (hence the call divert), but that is the first use in 5 years.

I only have it because I want DTV and no sat on the house.

Hence my desire for unbundling of the DTV/Telco services. I'm sure you have made your money on me by now.

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You can have cheaper than BT line rental, by transferring a BT line to ITPLC - there'a an initial cost, but the ongoung rental is quite a bit cheaper - so a Sky+ITPLC setup undercuts NTL, AND gives you new Sky channels as they arrive, WHEN they arrive.

Is the "3 for £30" deal still available?
.. new customers only

Well, a friend of mine looking to cut back (for personal reasons) may shortly be an EX-customer... I'm sorely consider becoming an "ADSL deal tart" myself.

Yeah, probably an empty threat, but the thing is, for everyone sabre-rattling on forums like this, there are probaly a multiple of those "sufferring in silence".. people here tend to vent, then let it pass... draw the line, then rub it out and draw it again a bit further on, but maybe those who aren't making a noise, will end up leaving quietly.

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Indeed - she is moving into a small office soon so will be porting the numbers over there, then we can move to a plain analogue line. May move the number to NTL but as most of our calls are to the US on one.tel I would need a similar pricing on the NTL line to consider the switch.

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Would 2p/min work?

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Yes - why - who - other costs?

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Ntl: 321 standard line = £9.50 add £2 for International Call Plan = £11.50. Or add £1 for the 5p talk plan = £10.50, either include calls to US @ 2p/min 24/7.

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I used one.tel on an NTL line. What am I missing?

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Nothing - i guess - I just know most of the predial / white box dialer thingumybobs don't work on NTL / TW / Kingston phone lines.

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Or just stay with his BT line and go to any of the companies that provide access numbers and cheap per minute rates. No need to change to ntl and take out extra options. I use www.telediscount.co.uk to call my friends in france, chile and the US. 2p a minute to the US.

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Ah, I just have onetel on the speed dial, and that works fine. I Never bothered with the thingies.

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One.tel have two different rates one for BT, NTL, Telewest using a predial number or dialer box (which is more expensive) or the cheaper one only on BT using CPS.

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2p/min to USA???
http://www.telestunt.co.uk/ - 0845 "local rate"

Signing up to 18866 or 1899 may be even better, though the call-through (NTL) rates are not quite as good as the prefix (BT) rates

http://www.call1899.co.uk/index2.php - USA (BT) currently 0p/min (3p/call connect) - 1p/min +3p/call on the NTL call-through number

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But the 0845 local rate is more than 2p/min ?

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If you're happy to call through your PC call 1899 do VOIP for free, no connection or per min charge to the UK, US, Canada, Germany. Worth a look, and the call quality's perfectly acceptable, I find the service great.

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Isn't this available to existing 1899 customers only?