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Paul K 21-03-2005 21:26

King to go free
 
BBC News
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Jonathan King 'free on Thursday'
Pop mogul Jonathan King will be freed on parole on Thursday after serving less than half of a seven-year term for sexually abusing boys, his lawyer says.
King, 60, had been given a release date of 29 March from Maidstone Prison, but this has been brought forward, said lawyer Giovanni di Stefano.
King's time being interviewed after his arrest has been included in his term.
King was jailed in 2001 for four indecent assaults and two serious sexual offences on boys aged 14 and 15.

Media reports
Mr di Stefano said: "The Parole Board has told me he will be let out on parole on Thursday morning between 0800 and 0830, subject to confirmation from Surrey Police."
The police were "confirming" the amount of interview time, he said.
The lawyer said his client had told him of some of his future plans.
"He intends to go back to his home in west London and get back to work. He said he wants to write a musical about Cole Porter."
King was charged for offences committed between 1983 and 1989 after an investigation by Surrey Police.
He denied the charges at his trial and has never admitted his guilt.
Last month, Mr di Stefano said King hoped to see his conviction quashed.
Newspaper reports suggested King's victims had been told he had not been granted early parole and would have to serve his full term unless he accepted his guilt.
3 years 4 months for 6 offences :confused:

allieyoung666 21-03-2005 21:27

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He is one disturbed man, I would not like to read his mind!!

Tuftus 21-03-2005 21:31

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Tut... This country...

Paul K 21-03-2005 21:33

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Originally Posted by allieyoung666
He is one disturbed man, I would not like to read his mind!!

With the number of deals he has made while in prison I think we can pretty much guarantee that there will be a book deal and lots of newspaper articles over the next week or two. Any one that is proven to have interfered with or seriously harmed children should rot in jail in my opinion.

Tuftus 21-03-2005 21:34

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Originally Posted by Paul
Any one that is proven to have interfered with or seriously harmed children should rot in jail in my opinion.

Bang on. :tu:

allieyoung666 21-03-2005 21:34

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But who on earth would want to read about a guy who abused kids, what a sick society if they read those books!!!

Paul K 21-03-2005 21:36

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Originally Posted by allieyoung666
But who on earth would want to read about a guy who abused kids, what a sick society if they read those books!!!

Plenty of people would read the papers unfortunately, personally I'd rather he was ostracised and left to fade into obscurity where he belongs.

punky 21-03-2005 21:42

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That is a ridiculously small length of time for the offences commited.

I think it is really wrong that he serves under half his sentence. He should at least serve half his sentence. I think there should be a cap on parole, and it be nearer the end than the beginning. Something like... 25% off for good behavior, maximum. And he'd have bloody earn that 25%.

Tuftus 21-03-2005 21:53

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Should there be a cap at all? (OMG not another cap thread!!!)

If they get 7 years then surely they should serve 7 years other wise does it not make a mockery out of the sentences meted out by the judge?

punky 21-03-2005 22:03

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Originally Posted by Tuftus
Should there be a cap at all? (OMG not another cap thread!!!)

If they get 7 years then surely they should serve 7 years other wise does it not make a mockery out of the sentences meted out by the judge?

well, that's why I said that they would ahve to earn it, not being given it for simply what they are supposed to be doing anyway.They'd have to go above and beyond for it.

It would be nice that certain crimes were parole-free, but I am wondering if that would be discriminatory and therefore illegal.

Paul K 21-03-2005 22:06

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Originally Posted by punky
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuftus
Should there be a cap at all? (OMG not another cap thread!!!)

If they get 7 years then surely they should serve 7 years other wise does it not make a mockery out of the sentences meted out by the judge?

well, that's why I said that they would ahve to earn it, not being given it for simply what they are supposed to be doing anyway.They'd have to go above and beyond for it.

It would be nice that certain crimes were parole-free, but I am wondering if that would be discriminatory and therefore illegal.

Maybe this countries legal system should stop worrying about what people think and actually give out sentences that make sense. We seem to continually suffer from interference from Europe when it comes to sentencing guilty parties :(

Tuftus 21-03-2005 22:07

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Then whats the point of the judge saying that you go down for 10 years but if you are a good boy you will be out in 5?

The point I am trying to make (probably not very well) is that they are in prison for a reason, not to be good, if they were good then they most probably would not be in prison in the first place!

MovedGoalPosts 21-03-2005 22:08

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Unforunately this country yet again shows that the sentence imposed by court has no meaning to what is served.

As for book deals and the like, I thought that nobody was supposed to be able to profit from crime. Is it no illegal to be able to sell a book, or even a story to the newspapers if it is based on what he did?

Presumably though he should now be ignored and banished from public life rather than celebrated, much in the same way that Gary Glitter is no longer welcome.

Tuftus 21-03-2005 22:13

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Originally Posted by MovedGoalPosts
Unforunately this country yet again shows that the sentence imposed by court has no meaning to what is served.

Thanks, thats what I meant... :)

goldoni 21-03-2005 22:16

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Lets just hope he takes a leaf out of Garry Glitters book and moves abroad. He went down like a brick after he came out of Prison.

Paul K 21-03-2005 22:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MovedGoalPosts
Unforunately this country yet again shows that the sentence imposed by court has no meaning to what is served.

As for book deals and the like, I thought that nobody was supposed to be able to profit from crime. Is it no illegal to be able to sell a book, or even a story to the newspapers if it is based on what he did?

Presumably though he should now be ignored and banished from public life rather than celebrated, much in the same way that Gary Glitter is no longer welcome.

As far as I know he cannot write about his experiences at the trial or in prison but can probably write his autobiography as long as he doesn't use/ include the crime to publicise it or increase it's sales. It's a grey area but he wouldn't be the first criminal to spend an inordinate amount of time in the papers after being released.
I'd rather they punished the guilty with sentencing that would prove a deterant and stop this BS of letting them out early for good behaviour. It's not as though they should have a choice of wether to behave or not inside but then they probably spend a lot of time arguing over what tv channel to watch or what they want for dinner :dozey:

allieyoung666 21-03-2005 22:44

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another boring book to hit the shelves, and your right Paul there will be some sad person who will want to buy and read about his seedy life. He should have done what he did to those young boys, another sick and twisted mind.

BBKing 21-03-2005 22:55

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We seem to continually suffer from interference from Europe when it comes to sentencing guilty parties
Care to justify that rather bizarre assertion?

1) We have the highest prison population in Europe and badly overcrowded prisons
2) This is because we jail so many people
3) Funnily enough, we do seem to let out well-behaved prisoners early

I do wonder if those are related in some way with no involvement from 'Europe' at all. Find another scapegoat.

Remember the judge sets the sentence - the prison service and Home Office decide when the prisoner should be released. Criminals aren't allowed to profit from their crimes directly, AFAIK. I don't think King (who I detest almost as much for his slavish Thatcherite opinions as for his kiddie fiddling) will be intending to write a book about 'How To Bugger Boys For Fun And Profit'. Remember that Archer came out with his prison diaries rather than his reminiscenses of lying in court about prostitutes. I'd anticipate some unpleasant gloating tome about running the prison entertainments or whatever he did, and no hint of remorse.

Good behaviour/early release - well, is prison a punishment or a way of changing criminals into law abiding citizens. I think both, which is why you have to have an incentive to change your behaviour.

allieyoung666 21-03-2005 23:06

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Yeah but for how long??? It does not take long for a person who has been in prison to reoffend. How many people especially peado's do you know who think?? I must turn over a clean leaf and not think about buggery and child porn??? We had a friend, who worked with Paul and he hung around with us, he had a wife a young daughter and a bloody good job. The police raided his house 3yrs ago took everything. He was on the phone to us crying his heart out that he had not done anything and that he did not have anything to hide. The police found 3000 images of child porn on his PC and took us for donkeys. And this certain guy Mod Edit (Matt D) - name removed has been prison and disapeared into society, he lost everything and I mean everything. I ever meet this guy again I would spit in his face as he took us and the rest of the colleagues at british chrome to be idiots and we are not!


Mod Edit (Matt D) - Had some comments about the legality of mentioning the name, so I've removed it just in case!

punky 21-03-2005 23:21

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Originally Posted by BBKing
King (who I detest almost as much for his slavish Thatcherite opinions as for his kiddie fiddling)

:eek: :eek:

So... In your mind, someone who supports Thatcher is almost as bad a child molester?

I'd imagine that would be extremely offensive to Thatcher fans. I think you are taking your opinions in politics too far.

allieyoung666 21-03-2005 23:27

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Originally Posted by punky
:eek: :eek:

So... In your mind, someone who supports Thatcher is almost as bad a child molester?

I'd imagine that would be extremely offensive to Thatcher fans. I think you are taking your opinions in politics too far.


:tu: :tu:

Ramrod 21-03-2005 23:28

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I lived 100 yrds up the road from him when I was a teenager :erm:

allieyoung666 21-03-2005 23:30

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I bet you feel sick!!!!! I hope someone jumps him!!!! I do not like kiddy fiddlers they are a sick and mentally ill breed who need to be locked up for the rest of their natural life so that they cannot hurt another child ever again!

Xaccers 21-03-2005 23:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul
Maybe this countries legal system should stop worrying about what people think and actually give out sentences that make sense. We seem to continually suffer from interference from Europe when it comes to sentencing guilty parties :(


Actually, I believe the early release system was Labour's idea...

allieyoung666 21-03-2005 23:35

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I am glad I did not vote labour, why so they can go and abuse more kiddies!!

Earl of Bronze 22-03-2005 02:12

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Originally Posted by Paul
Any one that is proven to have interfered with or seriously harmed children should rot in jail in my opinion.

This will be my only post in this thread (as I cant hold a reasonable conversation on this subject, I fell that strongly about it).

Letting perverts and murderers *rot in jail*, is a IMO a serious waste of public money. In cases of child abuse/rape/murder, there is IMO only *one* punishment to fit the crime.


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