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Ramrod 18-03-2005 09:57

Victoria Cross awarded
 
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A YOUNG soldier who enlisted in the Army less than four years ago became a member of the most exclusive club in the world yesterday after being awarded the Victoria Cross for exceptional bravery in Iraq.

Private Johnson Gideon Beharry, 25, is now one of just 14 living recipients of the award which he received for saving the lives of 30 comrades under remorseless attacks from grenades and machinegun fire in the volatile city of al-Amarah, north of Basra. Only 1,355 have been awarded, many of them posthumously.
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Brave man. :nworthy:

Tuftus 18-03-2005 10:02

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
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Brave man. :nworthy:


Here here.

STONEISLAND 18-03-2005 10:04

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You do have to give him full respect. :tu:


It does make you wonder thougth as I'm sure things like this happen all the time in the armforces with no mention, if its because of the bad things that happened with the beatings that there trying to 'flower up' our Army?

Ramrod 18-03-2005 10:16

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You do have to give him full respect. :tu:


It does make you wonder thougth as I'm sure things like this happen all the time in the armforces with no mention, if its because of the bad things that happened with the beatings that there trying to 'flower up' our Army?

:erm: I'm fairly sure they don't give VC's out like that :disturbd:

andyl 18-03-2005 10:23

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
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Brave man. :nworthy:

Indeed.

STONEISLAND 18-03-2005 10:28

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
:erm: I'm fairly sure they don't give VC's out like that :disturbd:

Dont get me wrong as I say full respect to a brave solider. But is this the only time this has happened since 1964? Which was the last time a VCs was give out? I'm sure there are many soliders that have been brave and looked out for there comrads, its part of the job. Look at the brarvo 2 zero team and what they went though and they got nothing.

NitroNutter 18-03-2005 10:40

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Dont get me wrong as I say full respect to a brave solider. But is this the only time this has happened since 1964? Which was the last time a VCs was give out? I think not I'm sure there are many soliders that have been brave and looked out for there comrads, its part of the job. Look at the brarvo 2 zero team and what they went though and they got nothing.

Agreed, you cant win wars without comradship, teemwork and extreeme bravery on the part of soldiers, so why no others ?

gazzae 18-03-2005 10:44

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Look at the brarvo 2 zero team and what they went though and they got nothing.

I wouldn't call the DCM and the MM nothing.

Maggy 18-03-2005 10:44

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Originally Posted by skunk4u
Dont get me wrong as I say full respect to a brave solider. But is this the only time this has happened since 1964? Which was the last time a VCs was give out? I think not I'm sure there are many soliders that have been brave and looked out for there comrads, its part of the job. Look at the brarvo 2 zero team and what they went though and they got nothing.

Well the last two recipients were in the Falklands war and they were awarded poshumously.It is very rare for there to be a live recipient of The VC.Thankfully we have avoided most all out wars since the 50's as the VC is awarded for
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only for acts of extraordinary courage under enemy fire
I suggest you read the article a little closer and just accept that not just anyone gets a VC.It being the highest Military Medal that is awarded it is treated with the UTMOST RESPECT by everyone and would not be allowed to be cheapened in a face saving operation by any government because it's not in the government's power to influence it. :(

Incog.

PS It might be a worthwhile few minutes actually researching ALL the recipients of the VC since it's inception.

Gogogo 18-03-2005 10:59

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Private Johnson Beharry really deserves his VC, he is very modest and clearly one of the best a credit to the nation.

Hopefully, someone could persuade the Mayor of the City of London, to give him the freedom of the city.


:)

Maggy 18-03-2005 11:04

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Well here is a site with all 1354 recipient details.

Victoria Cross


Incog. :tu:

punky 18-03-2005 11:06

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
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Brave man. :nworthy:

Indeed.. Amazing.... :nworthy:

The cynic in me says there could well be some awards being given out to booast up the army... but not the VC. It is too important. The army would do more harm than good on itself if it gave our VCs frivilously.

Millay 18-03-2005 11:09

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Originally Posted by skunk4u
You do have to give him full respect. :tu:


It does make you wonder thougth as I'm sure things like this happen all the time in the armforces with no mention, if its because of the bad things that happened with the beatings that there trying to 'flower up' our Army?

Yep daily occurance that a seriously wonded man, drives a van thats on fire straight through the middle of an ambush :) ;)

Really though makes you feel good about the country knowing we still have people like that!

Earl of Bronze 18-03-2005 11:18

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Gotta say I'm totally made-up for the guy.

When I joined up in '88, part of my basic training was learning the history of my unit (Royal Engineers). During which we where taught about the bravery and sacrifice that previous Engineers have endured. So considering the criteria needed now adays to qualify for the recomendation for the VC, you can rest assured it is deserved in few cases.

What stands out even more than the gong, to me anyway, is the face that after being seriously wounded, this brave soldier still wants to stay in the Army. I truely hope he can, given that he still suffers with his now healed wounds.

punky 18-03-2005 11:18

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Hopefully, what he and his comrads went through, should be a thing of the past soon...

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050316/165475_1.html

Maggy 18-03-2005 11:24

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So as the services become more and more high tech maybe we will see less VC's awarded.

However I predict that technology often goes wrong and that many young men/women will still have to perform extraordinary acts of bravery to rescue their comrades... :(

STONEISLAND 18-03-2005 11:33

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Originally Posted by Millay
Yep daily occurance that a seriously wonded man, drives a van thats on fire straight through the middle of an ambush :) ;)

Really though makes you feel good about the country knowing we still have people like that!

Yot all getting me wrong as I said,

Originally Posted by skunk4u
You do have to give him full respect. :tu:

Ramrod 18-03-2005 11:43

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Originally Posted by Incognitas
Well here is a site with all 1354 recipient details.

Victoria Cross


Incog. :tu:

Excellent link!
Their actions are an example to us all.

Maggy 18-03-2005 12:09

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This

is the one I've known about for a long time because I lived in the Close(Gosport) named after him mentioned in this article.I decided on a whim to find out who the street was named after when I discovered that all the street names in the naval estate were after famous Naval personel or ships or even planes...Like Nimrod Drive. ;)

The street still exists too. :)

dilli-theclaw 18-03-2005 14:03

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Well done and congratulations to him, I wouldn't have the balls to be a soldier at all. I'm glad that people like this can and are willing to do this job for and on my behalf.

Anyway I'm glad he's got the recognition that it looks like he deserved.

homealone 18-03-2005 14:15

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I just read the full citation for the award, which goes into more detail than the news story, he is a very brave man.

Stu038 18-03-2005 15:11

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This man is one of an elite few and fully deserves the accolade of hero.

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Originally Posted by punky
Hopefully, what he and his comrads went through, should be a thing of the past soon...

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050316/165475_1.html

Unfortunatly not, as quickly as "protection" is developed to protect soldiers lives someone else is developing a weapon to defeat it.
Its a never ending vicious circle, the only real difference between the modern soldier and a medieval knight is that at times the distance you have to be from your target has increased :(

Oh and the peasants don't have to clear up after your horse :D


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