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have you tried in any way to upgrade the speed? because automatic upgrades for existing customers have not started yet halycon... did you try restarting the modem?? |
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I only went through to CS because the online update failed; in such cases I think CS should do the upgrade regardless of whether an automatic update is to follow. Have to say though that despite the confusion, they've ben very polite and I've had my upgrade.
Incidentally debate vis who is and isn't getting (can't remember - Engineer?); I'm ex C&W (and neighbour Middleton :) and have got it so I don't think that is the issue as such. Polite perseverance is my suggestion to those struggling with CS. |
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Still on 750K stb NW yes tried re starting three fingered reset
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Its the bad communication as always, for instance.
Customer goes to http://www.ntlworld.com Customer chooses 'Upgrade Your Speed' Customer gets choice of 1mb 2mb 3mb Customer chooses 3mb STB Customer is told to ring CS, Customer rings CS and then its a lottery. EVERYONE should get the upgrade, its advertised on their site for all to see, but some are getting refused. Very bad service indeed, why are some of us second class citizens ? Why are some of us paying for half the speed currently ? How long will this difference last (it was months last time) If its months this time then its time to start demanding refunds, if it is the end of this week then fine. (BTW my STB just lost the Broadband signal with the flashing green light, first time in the year since I've had NTL, oh goody I though, perhaps they are doing it after all, but after about 3 mins it came back, but no upgrade) |
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Month to wait for Pace STB upgrade
Im currently on the 750kbps and the earliest I can get an upgrade on my pace STB is the 5th of April, If i phone up and cancel TV (been thinking about it for a while) will the swap to stand alone CM be any quicker ?
It seems a bit of a crazy waiting time, just for a straight swap. |
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i wouldnt have thought so because that time given is for an engineer to call out i believe so you would still need the engineer to fit the sacm so the appointment would pretty much the same if that was the earliest you were quoted
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The internal comms that I've seen say all the upgrades will be done over the next few months. Not once was it ever stated that it eould happen immediately, so I really don't know what you're all getting so wound up for?
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i dont think the issue is the fact that it will take place over the next few months its the case that it is so hit and miss...
some people phoning up and being upgraded some people phoning up and being told that they will be automatically upgraded as you say advise is that updates will be automatic but each and every person is getting treated differently ;) sorry th'engineer im not sure maybe someone else might know that answer |
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Ive got a ntl coming out to my house on saturday to install a new cable modem and will be upgraded to 2mb then, im currently on 300k Pace STB in Derby (ex C&W), sod waiting till april time for a new STB :P
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bit like that advert where all the stuff is for "brand new customers only!"
I can laugh becuase i've been upgraded! |
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Do NTL CSRs get briefed about new services and changes or are they left to find out for themselves?
Could it be that NTL are assuming that nobody knows about the speed increases as they haven't informed customers or slapped it on the ntlworld site? I know that the upgrade your service links on ntlworld have been updated to show the new services but who would normally look at those unless they were thinking of upgrading anyway? If it wasn't for Cableforum nobody would probably know about these speed increases or potential caps. |
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the upgrades are going to be automatic to existing users however new users can use the services already problem is that some people are being too nice and upgrading people, where as the others are following the process ;) |
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I tried once yesterday and also my girlfriend tried same thing "automatic".I have 1.5mbps at the moment which i just wanted to have for a few months,i just wanted to have the 3mbit to see the differences and cause of the same usuage allowance i was going to downgrade and save £156.
I am going to try later and get it one more time,pointing them to this website,if they say no i shall downgrade to silver.I wonder if i will then end up with 2 mbit,more likely 750 kbps :D |
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Everybody is saying be greatful for the free upgrade, I don't understand why? We do pay for the service, they're increasing their speeds to compete with ADSL and Telewest. If orangebird's timescale is correct then it's a absurd upgrade for STB users. |
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I think you would only be able to ask for compensation if NTL had actually promised you something which they had failed to deliver. Have they written to you saying you would be getting an upgrade and with a specific firm date - if not then where's the grounds to moan and talk about compensation.
The free upgrades only started about 24 hours ago and it's still only unofficially available for existing customers. |
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just wandering is anyone getting slow broswer speeds... because it takes ages to connect but once it connects it loads fine.. sometimes i have to refresh the page 3-4 times :\ is this due the speed upgrade?
or could it be my router :dozey: ? |
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As this is what you agreed to where is the problem? If you don't want/agree with a free upgrade for whatever reason - then you can go elsewhere. |
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ntl are covering their backs by stating 'the next few months'. It's highly unlikely it will take this long, but it's always wise to underpromise and overdeliver... |
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I love the way they've been branded as FREE!!! :rolleyes: :monkey: |
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The point is it's a free upgrade starting from 8th March ..... they are still keeping to their word, you will be upgraded, just give them some time. You have lost nothing, and no compensation is due. |
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I think the talk of 'compensation' is fairly insulting to those who've worked hard to give a 'free' product improvement.
You're getting vastly improved speeds either now or within the next few weeks or months. There's no longer a £25 one off charge. And the cap sounds fairly lax. What more do you want!!! |
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The moon on a stick by the sounds of it. :rolleyes: |
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This is like the guy at the supermarket handing out free packets of biscuits ....... then he runs out just before he gets to you .....
Gonna complain ...... ???? Oh and he tells you he'll be back next week, in the mean time you might want to BUY some. |
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I cant believe the rubbish im reading here,on the 8th of march ntls web sit offered the new speeds to new customers so anyone joining on or after this date got new speeds,if ntls long term customers ment anything to them then they should get the new speeds at the same time as new customers,I know this wouldnt be easy so the fairest way would have been sort out your older customers first afterall we are paying more than new signers as they get deals so we are worth more to ntl than new customers so why not treat us at least equaly
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But...... credit where it's due, 750k to 2MB (in my case) is a decent upgrade and having politely fought my way through the internal comms battles I've got it. There does seem to be a staff training/comms issue here though, given the inconsistent responses people are getting - and it's that that's causing the grief more than anything. __________________ Quote:
The free upgrade will do for the time being though! |
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Yes, for some people it's a bit like the new toy scenario, my brother's got a new toy I want one now, weep, weep tantrum. Over half of the world's population don't know where their next meal is coming and all we get is concern about broadband megs!!!
Well it's coming I can wait, considering the years of dial up I had to put up with broadband being impossible at my old address, I am quite happy to get along on 750k until the next free upgrade comes. Strewth people can really moan and moan. Though I do think NTL could have as usual learnt from the past and got a clear message out. :) |
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Personally I only mentioned compensation because its often the only way to get big companies to listen, my point was that the NTLWORLD site clearly states that the upgrade is available now, but STB users upon ringing CS (as expressly told to from the 'Upgrade' button on the OFFICIAL NTL website) are randomly told no or yes, why have NTL put this upgrade on their website and then only give it to some ?
A simple 'existing STB customers will be upgraded over the next few days' (as I was told on the phone) message on the STB page instead would have saved this hassle. |
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my grip is fine employees at ntl are paid to do a job wether its harder or not are they not?? how would there jobs be secure if those treated unfairly by ntl just said stuff it and left??? older customers deserve at least equal treatment as we have paid said employees wages for years
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I bet everybody that posted complaining about my post is on a SACM? Because anybody on a STB even a Samsung one atm should/will feel like a second-class customer especially the ones in a ex-C&W area. Especially the Manchester area's from some of the posts on the Part 3 post?
The person who said ntl giving STB's out takes time, yes it does, but why on Earth did they give users PACE set-top boxes in the first place when they knew about their lacking capabilities? They have limited connections and break down often upto now I've had 5 PACE set-top boxes while on NTL fortunately the last time it broke down they replaced it with a Samsung box. |
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I just phoned CS. My Pace STB will be replaced on 4th April between 8 and 12, (apparently this is the earliest they can do) and until then my service will be upgraded from 750K to 1M. I'm happy with this, the only bummer will be waiting in to see if the engineer turns up..... or rather my wife waiting in and getting stressed when the engineer doesn't turn up and then having to go through the whole thing again another day.
This is not a pop at NTL specifically, but surely companines ought to be able to arrange deliveries within say a two hour window these days, or at least phone the day before to say roughly what time they'll turn up? |
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Sorry, but that's absolute crap. Yes, the revenue from customers do pay the wages (I'm a customer, so I guess I'm paying my own...) Hard work, no one I know is adverse to. Changing all the stbs that need changing, installing new customers and upgrading the rest of the one million customers on the same day is impossible. End of. Would you like you dummy back? :monkey: |
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back to my original question when are the STBs being upgraded in the Manc area
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Are new customers being given something that existing customers can't have?
Not at the moment. New customers may have been able to sign up for the new speeds on the 8th but they won't have the service installed for at least a week. |
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I just started a job ... as part of the induction I got a Post it notepad, a pen, a mini maglite, and a USB memory key. My colleaugues didn't, and complained to me about this, however it came to light that they too had enjoyed similar benefits when they joined the company ..... |
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then surely it should have been done prior surely ntl knew of the problems that would be coming with the set top boxes would not have taken a genius long to work out that if they rolled them out over a year spred the cost then now they would be no problem would there???
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Add to that the fact that CF members are aware of the upgrade when I guess many customers aren't so..... the chances are you'll still get it before most. |
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samsung have only recently introduced the samsung set top box the reason they gave out pace set top boxes is because this is what they supplied at the time |
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you all must take me for a idiot if you used the shell garage down the road and all of a sudden they offered new customers twice as much petrol but only new customers the roll out to older customers will be done over time? How would any of you react i bet you all would want it now and if you say you dont you lie
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Yes, I have now tried restarting my modem twice. Still not been upgraded. Will go and have one more try. |
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It would be a wasted technician visit- and these visits cost ntl rather a lot of money. |
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No such thing as a free luch. |
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Firstly, most fo the Pace boxes have no problems at all. Secondly, when ntl first starting using Pace, 1meg wasn't even heard of, let alone 3 or 4, so NO, they couldn't have worked out that for some customers these boxes would've been redundant. Thirdly, not every customer wants speeds over 1meg, so it would not have been at all sensible/wise/financially clever to go round buying and sending out crews to replace one set top box with another. You need to think about these things before you post. :rolleyes: |
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I cannot believe how many people are complaining about the upgrade.
It's a free upgrade, be happy, if you havn't got it and are moaning that you should get compensation, then think again, what have NTL got to lose? |
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orange bird i think your arrogant
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With the STB's remember that a signal has to be sent to the box, the customer then has to go through the re-registration process involving PID and password and then a reboot. Can you imagine the chaos yesterday if the signals had been sent, in effect knocking off thousands of customers broadband service :erm: Think I'd have got my coat and walked if there had been 1000 calls in the Q. As it was, it was a steady day and customers genuinely pleased with a free upgrade when they rang to enquire. Any customers now who want "compensation" will have a £50 charge applied for the ntl staff boozathon at Christmas ;) :drunk:
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well i just rand cs to get my stb upgraded, was told i can NOT apply to have my stb upgraded untill it goes live in my area (heywood,rochdale). which i think is utter crap because if i wait for it to go live in this area and then ring cs again for my new stb i bet they give me a lead time of at least 1 month.
why not just upgrade my stb now and have me ready in time to benefit from the new speed ! |
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Personal attacks are not needed here. |
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They might not have been automatically upgraded but ntl did leave a loophole in their system to allow users to manually upgrade via their website, STB users are not able to do this. Quote:
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and i suppose that other cable companies should not use set top boxes either for internet?? |
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Ntl are way behind BT,they have been for along time, you can get 2mb for 24.99 from BT, ntl price 24.99 for 750 so ntl get your arse into gear and kick arse.:D
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so that reply was ok was it??? will he/she be told now i bet not
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Erm, OK then. I've been called worse :D |
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hey guys, looking at the title saying speed upgrades 8th march - could anybody confirm wether this is true? I am in the NW england and i am on 1.5mbit service.
The reason i ask is that i rang cs yesterday about another issue and while i was on i asked about the speed inscrease. the guy told me that the speed increases wont be starting until the end of march/beginning of april. Then i look on here an its the 8th of march?? I have reset my cable modem and havent had an increase, so all i ask is`.... who is right thanks |
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And may be I left Europe out as it would have been hard to explain. |
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Final thought before I unsubscribe (you should see how quick my inbox fills up with CF alerts on the new speed!! Sorry!). If I'd have been NTL, knowing that CF has been trailing these upgrades for some time I think I might have looked at a way to keep us moaning minnies quiet!!
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We have one of the original Business Essentials Cable modems, currently on 1.5 Meg speed. No sign of any upgrade in speeds here in Shepshed for that modem and no mechansim I know of, such as a web page, to upgrade. Phoned Business customer support and they know nothing about a plan to upgrade Business Cable modems, he seemed to think the increase from 1 to 1.5 MB was news! Anybody know if and when business cables modems will get the speed increase, please? APS |
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petrol isnt a necessity you can get a bus or train or heaven forbid walk
__________________ didnt think anything would be said to him/her is it nice to be in a clique ban me you suck anyway |
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[edit: cool! just realised I got a rep for http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...postcount=1068 :D] OnTopic: I'm happy with the upgade and say :clap: Thank You NTL! :clap: |
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Why don't we call it evens? :p: |
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ok :)
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