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Hi All....

We have again, received further reliable information regarding the long awaited ntl broadband speed upgrades. From 8th March 2005, 1MB, 2MB and 3MB broadband speed connections will be launched. ntl will be contacting existing customers and informing them of these upgrades.

It is important to note, that the majority of 750K and 1.5MB customers will be upgraded over the coming weeks. But some networks, in some areas need further upgrades, to ensure that all customers will eventually receive the speed upgrades though this might take some months.

Customers on the 750K package or 1.5MB package, will receive a FREE automatic upgrade to 2MB and 3MB. 750K customers with a black PACE Set top box and want to change to the new 2MB speed, need to arrange with ntl a Set top box swap, this will be a free swap.

Note that those 750K broadband customers with a black PACE Set top box, will receive a FREE automatic upgrade to 1MB if they do not arrange a Set top box swap as the black pace set top boxes are only able to provide the maximum of 1MB speed connection. Also note that there will be no change to the usage allowance (1GB daily).

300K customers will not be upgraded automatically. Customers can upgrade to 1MB if they accept a 3GB monthly usage allowance. Customers can either upgrade online or by calling customer services.

Once customers have upgraded to the new speeds, they will be unable to change back to the old speeds. Existing customers on 300K, 750K and 1.5MB cannot move between old speeds.

Just to remind customers of the upgrades and prices and usage allowances of these new speeds:-

* 300K = 1MB Price: £17.99 Usage allowance: 3GB Monthly
* 750K = 2MB Price: £24.99 Usage allowance: 1GB Daily
* 1.5MB = 3MB Price: £37.99 Usage allowance: 1GB Daily

Upload rates are as previously mentioned:-

1MB = 100K
2MB = 200K
3MB = 300K

Customers who exceed their usage allowance with the 1GB daily usage allowance may be contacted by ntl if their usage becomes excessive that it affects quality of service for other broadband customers. Customers on the 1MB connection with 3GB monthly usage, ntl will be monitoring and will identify those who exceed their usage allowance very often, however they will not be enforcing this allowance until later this year.

We have already posted a news item about this:-

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/...from-8th-march

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***ahem** I think you'll be getting people excited about this - 3GB a DAY!:)

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Woot. I hope someone finds/produces a timetable for updates though, so at least we know when its happening.

But if the 3mb service has the same cap as the 2mb service, I might as well downgrade.... £156 a year is a lot of money.

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Oops - Thanks John - Now ammended. :Sprint:

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Does anyone know which areas will actually be upgraded on Tuesday?

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I have just caught this on DigitalSpy:

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Hmm I think I'm going to get upgraded from my 300k to 1mb then.
I dont really know how much I use of the total 3GB monthly Cap.
Can anyone gve me any idea wether I would be going over if I do the following online:

- Download DJ mixes (About 100mb) 1 per week.
- Listen to online radio
- Download the odd video now and then.
- Lots of General net surfing

Would that be OK ?
Thanks.

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It all depends on the bitrate of the online radio and the length of time you listen. Also how long the video is, how it is encoded and how often now and then is. I would imagine you would be OK but download NetMeter http://readerror.gmxhome.de/ or something similar and do some checking.

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Hal Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢m in the same boat, I was hopeing to download stuff on the new service but will be happy to just see the speed.



I download the odd mp3

Surf the net

E-mail

Play games and one game is FM2005 I play in a clan game and can be on 16hours:Yikes: a week. Itââ‚ ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s the only thing I feel might be trouble, Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢m not the host but have no idea what it uses. :confused:

Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢ll try that net meter thing on Sunday for the day as Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢m playing my clan game at night:tu:

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It depends on how long you listen to radio, and how many videos you download.

Radio can be anything upto 70meg/hour
Videos can be almost any size, but music videos in mpg/avi for 3-4 mins are normally around 30-40meg each.
Normal web browsing for me is around 20-50meg/day so 1.5gb/month tops

So you are looking at just under 2gb/month general usage, plus whatever radio and videos you watch. You will probably under 3gb/month providing you don't listen to the radio every day (or listen to it on low quality)

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Try using 'Networx' bandwidth monitor. It's a free download and free 30 day trial. It will give you an idea of your typical daily usage and produces daily/weekly/monthly stats

GSP

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Don't forget, its the total upload and download that counts towards your allowance, so whilst 1Mb speed/ 3Gb data per month sounds OK for general needs, just remeber that if you also play online games, your uploads will contribute to the overall data count. :Yikes:

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Hi Geoff and :welcome: to cableforum.

Sounds similar to Netmeter but Netmeter is free, not a trial.

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I'm not sure anyone is being upgraded on the 8th - [new] users will be able to request these speeds as of the 8th - the upgrades will be over the next few weeks, but no specific starting date has been mentioned.

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is there no post-code check like they did last time to give users a indication of when they get their free upgrade, when they did the 1.5meg upgrade i got it on the day they started automatically - hope this is the same (sussex area)

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Well I'm quite excited that by the time I finish work next week I /could/ well have my new speed :)

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Maybe it wil appear at the same URL as last time...

http://www.ntlworld.com/data-feeds/e...sites/upgrade/

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Hi Ian

I've just tried netmeter following your post.

Networx actually does a lot more, and will give you up and down traffic totals on daily / weekly / monthly basis not just display current bitrates. I used it at home when my son got a web cam, to see how much traffic he was was generating. The 30 day trial was enough to establish typical traffic levels.

Geoff

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Into the 2nd page and part 3 seems to be quite civil upto now (touch wood). ;)

Can't wait for the upgrades myself...

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For the record - I'm glad you said 'upto now' ;):)

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March 5th already, and I haven't got my upgrade yet:( (Well someone had to the the first to complain!) :)

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That's because it starts on the 8th.

But not everyone will be upgraded that exact day.

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I'm developing a data usage estimator/calculator at http://ben.cheetham.me.uk/data-usage-calculator

It's not quite finished but it should help you to get some idea of what you're using.

Ben

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Ah, but if I waited 'til the 8th, I might miss the chance to be the first to complain.;)

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Hmm.

The previous announcement listed the 2MB cap as 30GB/Month. This annoucement lists it as 1GB/Day.

Not exactly the same thing. So which is it?

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It appears to be the same as it is now, a gig a day.

Ben

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well now let me see...how many days in a month? ;)

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From: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/...eases-update-3

"2Mbps Downloadââ‚à ƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚ÂÂ�200Kbps Uploadââ‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚ÂÂ�30GB Monthly Cap"

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This (daily or monthly) will only become an issue if and when they bring in hard caps - but all that is for the 'cap' thread. Let's not have another one!

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For anybody that needs an up and down bandwidth monitor that logs to a file that shows daily,monthly and yearly totals and also tells you a lot of PC information I can recommend C S Fire Monitor. It is free for home use.
I can supply a link for it or just do a Google search for Crofts Software.
Over the last 7 days my download has been 3.873GB and upload 350.602MB.

I am only supplying this information for anybody that needs a monitor.
As has been said, this thread is for increased speed and not cap.
I for one am over the moon that I will be getting a 2MB connection and I have no real problem about my usage pattern.

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Hmm, some good new at least, although its going to be interesting to see when Im set to be upgraded, Ill patiently wait at my letterbox past the 8th then :D

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Yay! This is good news. I can't wait. :)

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It'll be interesting to see how much of the everyday events, ie d/ling / surfing etc etc will be improved on, if at all, what I mean is, that we might be getting the capability to surf faster but can the sites we frequent cope with our demands :shrug: interesting times ahead, can't wait ;)

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:D that is very good news.

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Just used that (cheers m8 :tu: ) for a quick guide, comes out around 22 Gig (up + down), I play a fair amount of games online .... was wondering how much using Team Speak 4 hrs a day would add to it ? (although I expect I won't get near the cap anyway)

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Thanks for the feedback Carth :)

I'm not familiar with Team Speak... is there a website? I'll then see what I can do :)

Ben

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http://www.goteamspeak.com/ :)

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The rollout over possible months has me worried if my upgrade to 1.5mb is anything to go by, in that a mate who lives about 2 miles from me got his 3 months before I. Oh well, tick tock.

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As the news item has it:

750K customers with a black PACE Set top box and want to change to the new 2MB speed, need to arrange with ntl a Set top box swap

... so as the 'owner' of a black PACE box, if I get a new STB as part of the deal does that mean that interactive TV will actually work?

Now that would be a worthwhile novelty ...

Pete

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It does work better but it's not worth looking at anyway. Complete waste of time and money. I got my box swapped due to the pace box being a snap crackle and pop box. Just in time for the speed upgrades haha.

Does anyone know any areas that are not going to be switched on on the 8th? Or is this yet another case of 'coming soon'..

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NetMeter does all this as well. The website for it does not show its full potential.

If you right click the icon in the system tray or the graph and choose "totals" you get daily, weekly and monthly totals for both upload, download and combined. You can reset the data transferred section of the totals tab to check during a specific period. You can also set your allowance (either upload, download or total) in the alarm section to warn you and it gives projected totals and average per day left.

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The policy on the 2 & 3 Mbit services looks identical to that which they already have e.g. a soft-cap of 1GB/day where they will only disconnect you in the most extreme of circumstances if you degrade the network significantly for other users. I can understand them doing this, a hard cap would have been awful but i don't mind this soft cap. I feel sorry for 300k users but it's only a few £ more and you will get more than double the current speed.

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Personally i'm looking forward to the new speeds and good on NTL for moving the date forward a bit. I was speaking to NTL tech support and they recon that coventry should be active if all goes well. can anyone from cable forum staff confirm this or was it just b/s by them? Anyway even if i have to wait ah well im on the 1.5m line and yes i will stay on it when the upgrade come through as i have my own website so the extra upload speed will come in handy. Bring it on!!!!!!:disturbd:

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To do what?At present I don't bother downloading anything much because it's too much hassle to wait for most large files especially video streaming.Of course if I just surf I may not hit the 3GB but I reckon with the amount of surfing I do it could still be rather tight not to run out of month before I run out of Cap.5 GB I could live with but 3 is a little low.It's not like I max out the system as a user after all.I don't really want 30GB but I don't want 3GB either.

Anyway this thread isn't really about the cap so back on topic.

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Owners of black Pace STBs on the 750k service will be upgraded to 1Mb until they have the STB changed. Wonder what upload speed they will give them?

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NTL should really supply an on-line tool that will show you're upload and download usage. Should be simple to provide to the customer if NTL has something already in place to monitor usage.

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Apparently they don't otherwise we would probably be seeing hard caps earlier.

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thanx 4 the news, i will give ntl a call on monday to swap my box

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Ok well, currently on my 300k connection, In a period of nine hours, Netweeter reports a total use of 137.63mb.
I guess thats a lot due to listening to online radio for an hour and a half.
But still seems a lot, if the caps going to be 3gb per month.

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Hi everyone. First post here :)

I'm pretty pleased that NTL are upgrading existing users for free, it's a cool thing for them to do. I'm not too fussed about the caps either. I very much doubt I'll go over 30Gb in a month, I rarely go over a gig a day. Can't understand all those people saying they're going to leave NTL because of the caps :confused: Personally I'd wait until they kick you off :p:. They say they aren't going to enforce the caps until later on and even then I'm willing to bet they'll only take action if you're messing up the service for other people. The cap just allows NTL to kick people off if they need to. I personally think NTL are great value for money for the type of service they run. The experience of friends suggests to me ADSL is not nearly as reliable as NTL's cable service. And what's more NTL have sexier modems. :)

Anyway, nice to be here.

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:welcome: Splink

I would agree with your comments entirely :)

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Well I have not read all the threads in here, but I would like to thank Mick for letting us know the dates and the state of play with the upgrades.

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With 102MB usage a day, most people (IMO) would go over the cap. :(

If anybody hasn't got a usage meter, try this: http://zoidberg.servehttp.com:8080/f...tMeter%202.exe :)

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thanks for providing this info ...

Personally I can not wait to 'down grade' to the 'higher speed' of 2Mbit (I'm on 1.5 MBit at the moment). I also brace myself for actually getting my downgrade approved and I sigh and hang my head as I get myself ready to fight the direct debit errors that I'm sure will exist after this downgrade :D

To be honest my dabble with file sharing has gone a bit boring now - I used to down load quite a bit :erm: (no comment on what I downloaded) and the speeds were then important. I visted HMV the other day and it was great to actually look around the store and choose some stuff - like the good old days ....

I know that not everyone who uses these high speeds file shares, nor am I saying that those that do download or share stuff are sharing stuff they should not ... but I just have the feeling that this use is bottoming out and it will take newer / better uses (TV / video / video conference calls with family or similar) to make the best of the new speeds (which will obviously get even faster over the next few years).

I could do with some more upload bandwidth for my website stuff but I can put up with 200k (I think the current 1.5 Mbit service is 250k upload..).

I will be saving around £120 a year :)

cheers

Mark
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Hi!

Personally, I think until it becomes clear to all that you will never get something for nothing, and in most other walks of life you pay for what you use, then this (your quote) is the reaction you will get. I think people will leave NTL and go to others without CAPS or those with more 'generous' CAPs. But in the end, market forces will dictate an 'averaging' of services through out ISP providers - just look at dial up now for example.......

mark

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I'd really like to go upto 1Mb from 300k - knowing that for a few months, if I want to use anything from 200MB to 1GB a day, I can get away with it (and then upgrade to 2Mb for 30GB a month).

But if I can't afford to go upto 2Mb, will they be reintroducing 300k @ £15.99 a month before they start enforcing the caps on the new 1Mb?

The important questions have yet to be answered - and I'll have to hold my horses until I know for sure, personally.

Another question for somebody, somewhere - when the 3GB starts to be enforced, and I happen to use 3GB in 3/4 days, what will happen? The rest of the month at 56k speed? :Yikes:

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Thanks to you Mick for keeping us informed.

The news is terrific and hats off to ntl for introducing the upgrade ahead of schedule, although clearly for some it may not quite so early, from one very happy customer.




:)

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I have just downloaded the Netmeterhttps://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2005/10/15.gif Thanks for the link.
I will be intrested to see my UL and DL usage as i play a lot on MOO/UF. I wonder? If the kids are upstairs playing on line and i downstairs playing on line at the same time. Will the UL and DL usages count as one.(as they are been used at the same time) or will they be added together?

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Thats just over 3GB a month?

Is anybody else worried?

that when these new speeds come in, with no caps for the first few months, that people will be hammering them, everyone working at full tilt? I thought NTL already had trouble with people at the current speeds :confused:

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Is it 30Gb per month or 3 Gb per month? Also at may office everyone has a work ADSL install. I am glad to have NTL after their horror stories.;)

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Thanks Ian. Initially I did'nt suss the 'right-click' on the meter, which brings up all the options. :dunce: I have now! I will defintitely recommend this to some mates. The traffic cap warning could be particularly useful to high traffic generators contributing to the forum. Geoff

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It is unfortunately 3GB a month !!! :Yikes:
If it was 30GB we'd all be in paradise.

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And we would all be downgrading and saving £20 a month :)

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If you are currently on the 1.5M service, and don't mind a reduction in your upload speed from 256k to 200k, then the new 2M service will give you an increase in speed, and a saving of £156 a year. :)

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The internet is very important to me, and so is the speed, but not so much important, that i'd pay that for 375k/s rather than 250k/s. I barely ever max out my 1.5mbps line anyway. Only large corporate servers, and popular occaisonal torrents do that.

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lol !!
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Hi Splink - welcome to CF - good points there; pretty much sums up my view too ;)

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Quick question for the Ntl peeps, I currently have two STB's, one in the lounge at the front of the house and a second box right round the back of the house ( bungalow ) to a bedroom, this 2nd box is used for the BB. Now I want to go onto the 2 Meg service and would need at least a new Samsung box in the bedroom, however I am thinking of moving my PC into the spare bedroom on the side of the house. What sort of cost would be involved in Ntl taking a feed from the cable that passes this bedroom and installing a SACM, would this be possible ?

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I was amongst the first batch of people and the very first to report on the forums to recieve the 600k to 750k upgrade as shown here: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...025#post267025

I live about 5 miles away from one of ntl's buildings in Wythenshawe.

Do you think I will be amongst those who will be upgraded on the 8th of March? :D

I'm still on the 750k package with a Samsung STB.

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This is most interesting and fascinating, sexy modems!!!


:D

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How about a long length of ethernet from the box round to the bedroom that the pc will be in? Or maybe a wireless setup? Might be the easier option.

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I've only just seen this about upgrades but i don't understand why i need a new stb for my broadband connection - surely my tv's got nothing to do with my cable modem?

also are ntl going to provide us with software to monitor monthly downloads?

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You can get ntl broadband via a Stand Alone Cable Modem (SACM) or the Set Top Box (STB) which also has a Cable Modem in it.

Customers who are on the 750k or 1.5mbit package via the STB will need to have the box changed to the silver Samsung STB's since the old black PACE STB's can't handle speeds more than 1mbit.

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Firstly, if you have a separate cable modem, you're fine. But some people don't - some people have their broadband connection coming straight from their STB.

NTL aren't going to be enforcing the 300k/1Mb cap until 'later in the year' - as I say, a good piece of freeware to monitor your usage is NetMeter - http://zoidberg.servehttp.com:8080/f...tMeter%202.exe :)

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how long i wonder will ntl take to swap the box ?

also how many 750k customers will need swapping over ?

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all of them, if they want the new speed.

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I'm getting my Pace DiTV2000 box swapped for a shiny new Samsung SMT2100 box on Thursday, as I phoned NTL customer services last Friday, and they said they can do the swap for me :)

Speed upgrade is a nice birthday pressie from ntl to me :) As it's my birthday on March 9th :)

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This makes NTL new offering look very poor by comparison.



http://www.bulldogbroadband.com/resi...P/NP/index.asp

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It does.....

If you can get it...............................

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All I can get is the 2mbps offering, and thats listed as £40/month :confused:

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yeah :o , try trawling through the speed thread , it is in there somewhere :D :D

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I am very happy NTL are introducing these new speed upgrades. It means I get a new Samsung box too. :) I doubt I will go near the 30GB a month limit. Can you exceed that cap, by just surfing, and the occasional download?

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If you try really hard :D :D :angel:

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really, really, really hard. ;)

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I have miles of ethernet cable, I still have the full set up kit that Ntl sent me almost 12 months after I actually did my own set up without the kit :) , but the bungalow has solid floors and I don't really want ethernet cable running around the floors, hall etc. I have thought about a wireless connection for a long time, just wondered what the comparative costs would be for a SACM installation, as opposed to the wireless route.

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thanks for the info,

so with a 3mbit in the future, what will my upload speed be? currently it goes at 30 KB/s max on 1.5mbit, what will it be on 3mbit?

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Good luck they came to swop mine on friday but didnt have any sammys so gave me another pace for no reason. Rang up sat to see whats goin on and they didnt sound happy with the installer. A manager rang me back it will be sorted by 2pm monday if not i gotta ring back directly via the extension i was given.

Gave me compensation for sitting in all day friday since the installer said he'd be back later but never did. Probably be £5 or sommet stupid.

For the way they were talking i sounds like i got the installer in trouble which i didnt want to do, they've put me a really crappy position :(

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You get about 35kbs download on the current 300k tier, so it should be about the same for 300k upload

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hmm, currently its 256 = 30 KB/s so I would guess 300 is about 40 KB/s ? :)

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It will be about 36KB/s max :)

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ah, not much of a upstream upgrade is it? why didnt they just keep it at 30? ooo 6 kb/s :D :)

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Every little bit counts. :D

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Why didn't they keep it at 30 - gah, I don't understand your logic :confused:

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I guess so :)
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After reading the posts, I like to thank whoever got my attention for 'Netmeter', I am using it now and find it a GREAT prog, Just need now to see how much I use playing a game online for an hour. Once again many thanks.

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not really comparable at the moment cos you can only get this product in a small set of locations.

http://www.bulldogbroadband.com/support/locations.asp

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*sighs*

Sticking with 300K I guess then :erm:

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I have just phoned Ntl Cs, spoke to a very pleasant Scottish lady, she did not know when the speed upgrades come into being, she checked and came back to inform me that they had no idea other than "the end of March" and advised me to wait until I received mail notification before ringing again.:(

When I mentioned the 8th of March she wanted to know how I had come by this info, she said the little bird I had been speaking to was better informed then her. :)

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Ah-the old "get off the phone & wait for an email/phone call" BS. :rolleyes:

As ever. ;)

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Ah, the old "have another dig post". :p: Why is it BS to tell a customer you don't know the full answer and to wait for more information ? - now if she had made up a date, that would be BS .....

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Paul,

NTL are BS in general mate so Neil is completey right :) :rofl:

Re: New Speed Upgrades 8th March. (Part 3)
 

Yes, a small problem with some people ready have a go at NTL. BTstill have to get past the disatance limit on the so called "last mile of copper". Like getting 8Mb on ADSL. You got to be close enough to the exchange. If not then you have to settle for a lower speed. Where with NTL it's fiber to the large green boxes (the ones that have whirring fans and backup batteries within) and then coaxial cable for the last few metres, via the smaller green neighourhood boxes, which unfortunatly vandals target thinking they can get free TV if they start swapping over connections. :mad:

Luckily where I live this vandalism problem does not manifest itself. :)