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Damien 28-02-2005 09:58

When will record companies learn?
 
Record companys want to raise the price of music downloads

Quote:

Some leading music labels are in talks with online retailers to raise wholesale prices for digital music downloads in an attempt to capitalise on burgeoning demand for legal online music. The moves, which suggest the labels want a bigger slice of the fledgling market's spoils, has angered Steve Jobs, the Apple Computer chief executive behind the iTunes online music store.
:mad:

This is so typical. iTunes and Napster have finally stalled the amount of online privacy, more and more people are buying music online and that is no small task considering people used to get tracks for free!

But record companys refuse to learn from the past :td:. They were happy to charge far over the odds for CD's which helped fuel the amount of online privacy in the first place. They made sure that if people wanted one song they would have to buy a album (look how many 'Greatest Hits' albums leave out one or two of there biggest tracks to get people to buy more albums). Now they want to raise the price of online music downloads but continue to sue people who go and download music illegally. :td:

punky 28-02-2005 10:05

Re: When will record companys learn?
 
You're right. The extauchinate price of CDs is what fuelled online music piracy. They'll just fuel it all over again.

Earl of Bronze 28-02-2005 12:26

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History circles back round, and hopefully bites those greedy ba****ds right in the dangly bits. They have been price gouging customers in stores since cd's hit the shelves. Not that people are getting a product they want for a reasonable price, and not defrauding the industry for it, thay want to hike the prices again. Screw the greedy, money grabbing *******s. I hope they all go broke.

TigaSefi 28-02-2005 12:29

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I think a cd of Franz Ferdinand for £7.50 in ASDA's is well worth the price. Only if it was standard all over the place and not deal of the week kind of thing.

Russ 28-02-2005 12:33

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This really annoys me!!

WE should have the power to decide formats and dictate the music industry, NOT the suits. The more they try to control us, the more we'll rebel.

andyl 28-02-2005 12:36

Re: When will record companys learn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TigaSefi
I think a cd of Franz Ferdinand for £7.50 in ASDA's is well worth the price. Only if it was standard all over the place and not deal of the week kind of thing.


£8.97 I think. But there is a very real issue with supermarkets cherry picking known bankers, piling them high and selling them cheap (well cheaper). It stifles diversity and creativity. What's also worrying is that supermarkets are getting involved in the creative process - working with labels to minimise risk in the development of new artists - and, in the States, censoring artists (labels have to produce Walmart friendly versions of releases in case the odd swear word upsets customers as they unpack their bags of personal ammunition!).

As for trying to increase online charging; it'll only backfire on them as legal downloaders return to Bearshare etc. They are thick, greedy sods!

TigaSefi 28-02-2005 12:43

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No no it was 7.50 ;) it says so on my bank statement. However piling it high and selling it cheap does no one any favours. The amount of good new unheard of music coming through in the last 5 years of this new century have been appalling compared to the rich vibrant stuff of the 90's. Seems a lot of ppl think all the american BS of "RnB's" are the way to go and it just appalling music.

Nidge 28-02-2005 15:01

Re: When will record companys learn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
Record companys want to raise the price of music downloads



:mad:

This is so typical. iTunes and Napster have finally stalled the amount of online privacy, more and more people are buying music online and that is no small task considering people used to get tracks for free!

But record companys refuse to learn from the past :td:. They were happy to charge far over the odds for CD's which helped fuel the amount of online privacy in the first place. They made sure that if people wanted one song they would have to buy a album (look how many 'Greatest Hits' albums leave out one or two of there biggest tracks to get people to buy more albums). Now they want to raise the price of online music downloads but continue to sue people who go and download music illegally. :td:

Looks like peer to peer then :D :D :D :D Fee of charge on there.

TheBlueRaja 28-02-2005 15:37

Re: When will record companys learn?
 
You know what to do....

http://www.the-flag-center.com/store...jackrackam.gif

...Suits - Know your limits...

Damien 28-02-2005 15:48

Re: When will record companys learn?
 
Dam right!

Although i think apple will absorb the cost to keep their prices at 0.79p otherwise they will annoy their customers

fireman328 05-03-2005 15:55

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Middle men are the **** of the earth, "they reap not neither do they sow" they buy at one price (the lowest they can screw from the producer) and sell at the highest they can think of. If anyone dares to challenge this they employ the slickest lawyers to take court actions of mind blowing cost to frighten off any potential competition and then raise the price of the product (a non tangible asset) to offset legal costs !!!!
Nice work if you can get it.....
I think that might be a copyright title :mad:

allieyoung666 05-03-2005 17:22

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A fiver is well ample, no more

Damien 05-03-2005 18:25

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i think that 0.79p a song or 7.99 to £10 is fair.

allieyoung666 05-03-2005 18:58

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Nah it is still to much, they cost bugger all to make, fiver, I go to amazon as the prices are such a bargain!

Damien 05-03-2005 19:03

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Yeah. Amazons prices are fair around 8.49. (then 2.50 for P&P). Although they cost little to make, you are paying for the music. ALso there are a lot of special edition cds now. I order Kaiser cheifs album off amazin and i get a live CD and a lot of other little stuff

allieyoung666 05-03-2005 19:13

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yeah but the independents from the states do them miles cheaper, it pays to shop around, CD WOW is also very good

Damien 05-03-2005 19:16

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I also use iTunes which is cheap although you dont get a cd with artwork and so on

Flubflow 05-03-2005 19:42

Re: When will record companies learn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fireman328
Middle men are the **** of the earth, "they reap not neither do they sow" they buy at one price (the lowest they can screw from the producer) and sell at the highest they can think of. If anyone dares to challenge this they employ the slickest lawyers to take court actions of mind blowing cost to frighten off any potential competition and then raise the price of the product (a non tangible asset) to offset legal costs !!!!
Nice work if you can get it.....
I think that might be a copyright title :mad:

Although I have few sympathies for record companies, I think generally tarring the term "middle men" with the same brush is a bit wrong. Middle men take risk on products that they think will sell, buy in bulk and hold the stock so they can sell at a profit to you the end user who has the convenience of buying exactly what they need at any one time without suffering the loss of a mistaken bulk purchase. Competition between middlemen keeps them in check and ensures that you the customer can shop around for the best price.
If you want to pay less per item then buy 1000 of them at any one time or shut up.
Supermarkets are middlemen. They produce buggerall. They merely arrange for it to be all under the same roof for your convenince. However, you'd spend a lot more if you had to source your weekly shop from the actual producers yourself.
However, record companies, even allowing for their mistake signings at a loss, do take the freekin biscuit somtimes ;).

allieyoung666 05-03-2005 20:57

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No they are just greedy big fat cats who like making the general public pay rip off prices!

Maggy 05-03-2005 21:06

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Music industry executives said introductory wholesale prices for digital tracks had been set low to stimulate demand, but Apple's success had prompted concern that they may now be too low.
So because Apple have been so successful the other companies think that they can charge more?

Possibly Apple have actually done their sums and know what they are doing.After all they are not known for selling cheap products as a company so I reckon they know how to price products.

Damien 05-03-2005 21:15

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Exactly. It was hard enough to get people to use legal download sources but now they want more? They themselves are fuelling ilegal downloads and they should be thanking apple for saving the industry millions in lost revenue instead of making them charge more!

Like i said apple are wary of napster and will keep prices at 79p. Hopefully aiming to run napster out of business as apple can afford to lose more money than napster can. Apple make little money on iPods in order to make iTunes more popular (or the other way around)

allieyoung666 05-03-2005 21:15

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that is why I do not buy any apple products as they are such a rip off, my MP3 cost me, £19.99 out of home bargains and it is cool, just what is the point of paying £200+ when you can get just as good MP3'S for a traction of that price

Theodoric 05-03-2005 23:19

Re: When will record companies learn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allieyoung666
yeah but the independents from the states do them miles cheaper, it pays to shop around, CD WOW is also very good

I'd second that. Not that they do my sort of music, but I buy occasionally from them for my relatives. Cheap and as long as you don't want it next day, fast enough.


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