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jamesclarke555 15-02-2005 19:52

Browser Wars about to Begin...
 
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/

Looks like were getting Internet Explorer 7 this year :tu:

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Today at RSA, Bill Gates talked about Internet Explorer 7. As the guy responsible for IE, I wanted to say a couple of things about it...
Full Story in link above.

Electrolyte01 15-02-2005 19:56

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Way to go Microsoft! :D :tu:

Richard M 15-02-2005 20:11

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It had better render CSS and other standards properly or it'll be a waste of time.

Electrolyte01 15-02-2005 20:20

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Originally Posted by Richard M
It had better render CSS and other standards properly or it'll be a waste of time.

Be even more pointless if it just comes out for XP. At least they are STILL responding to 2000 user demands :Yikes:

jtwn 15-02-2005 21:39

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On the topic heres something i saw a few days back

http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html

Especially for the firefox fanboys :p:

nffc 15-02-2005 23:51

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Let's see some stakes on how sh*t it will be then guys and guyettes... :)

Richard M 16-02-2005 01:00

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Lot's of commentary on the 'net, here and here.
This made me laugh though:
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Don't bother, just give up and go home. Microsoft is on the way out and Gates is getting desperate, even threatening Danish politicians now if they don't back his Euro policies - disgusting. Good riddance to your lame software.
...and this guy is obviously your typical M$ fanboy arse:
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# re: IE7 2/15/2005 10:55 AM Jonathan

Excellent news. As someone who develops apps that embed the web browser and MSHTML, I can't wait to find out what additional features are going to be added.

Interesting timing too, because just last week I had a dream where I got a preview CD of IE7.
Dreaming of a browser? :erm:

dilli-theclaw 16-02-2005 07:54

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Originally Posted by Richard M
Dreaming of a browser? :erm:

He's SICK ;) needs to sort it out :D

poolking 16-02-2005 07:58

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IE7? Think I'll pass. :)

Toto 16-02-2005 08:46

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Originally Posted by poolking
IE7? Think I'll pass. :)

Ditto :tu:

Ramrod 16-02-2005 08:55

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Nah.......I'll give it a go :)

Stuart 16-02-2005 09:19

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Originally Posted by poolking
IE7? Think I'll pass. :)


Why? At least if it's crap and you've tried it, you KNOW it's crap rather than just listening to other people.

Or, are you afraid that Microsoft have listened to people's complaints and improved it, so Firefox will lose out on those who use it in protest?

dilli-theclaw 16-02-2005 09:21

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I'll try anything once :)

Bifta 16-02-2005 09:23

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Originally Posted by scastle
Why? At least if it's crap and you've tried it, you KNOW it's crap rather than just listening to other people.

Or, are you afraid that Microsoft have listened to people's complaints and improved it, so Firefox will lose out on those who use it in protest?

Unfortunately it's a case of Firefox users slabbering about "M$ fanboys" without realising they're just as bad.

Scarlett 16-02-2005 09:23

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I'll probably install it (after all my machine is powerful enough to take it but only use it for those sites that are so sh*tly programmed that you have to use IE.

Happy with Opera thank you very much!

Stuart 16-02-2005 09:45

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Originally Posted by Richard M
Dreaming of a browser? :erm:


Maybe it's a bit extreme. I wonder if some people here dream of Firefox (certainly seems like some people might).
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Originally Posted by Scarlett
I'll probably install it (after all my machine is powerful enough to take it but only use it for those sites that are so sh*tly programmed that you have to use IE.

Happy with Opera thank you very much!


Same here, although I'll probably have to install it at some point anyway as our corporate administration website is one of that "sh*tly programmed" sites you have to use IE on. It all works properly (if you know the URLs of the pages, they all work) apart from half the options on the main menu don't display on non-IE browsers. All because the person that designed it used a package to generate a pretty fading effect, and the package generated IE standard DHTML, instead of W3C standard DHTML.
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Originally Posted by Richard M
It had better render CSS and other standards properly or it'll be a waste of time.


Looks like it might render CSS properly according to /.

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Originally Posted by /.
Its pretty likely that the png & css problems will be fixed because when the ie 7 team at MS was formed, they acknowledged that these problems were one of the driving forces for reestablishing the team.

As far as tabbed browsing & mouse gestures, well MS has been pretty smug in saying they provide what their customers are asking for & they aren't asking for tabbed browsing & mouse gestures - so probably not.

Of course, that is mainly speculation, but if it is true that CSS problems were part of the reason Microsoft re-established the IE team, they may be looking at standardising it.

Electrolyte01 16-02-2005 09:59

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If it comes out for 2000 (which I hope it does), I'll be giving it a go. Otherwise I'll stick to Avant.

Stuart 16-02-2005 10:13

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
I'll try anything once :)


Fair enough..


(was going to say "Ooohhh Matron", but thought better of it).

Lew 16-02-2005 14:16

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Originally Posted by Richard M
It had better render CSS and other standards properly or it'll be a waste of time.


Hell, I'll be happy if they can just fix the rendering of transparent PNGs. The picture below has a transparent background in all browsers except for IE, where it displays in a grey box.

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

Bifta 16-02-2005 14:41

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Originally Posted by Lew
Hell, I'll be happy if they can just fix the rendering of transparent PNGs. The picture below has a transparent background in all browsers except for IE, where it displays in a grey box.

http://homepage.mac.com/lwernham/.Pi...%20Regular.png

There's a javascript fix you can use for that (until IE7 is released).

http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/

philip.j.fry 16-02-2005 15:32

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If it's good then I'll use it, well at work at any rate since I doubt they will do a Linux version that I can use at home.


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