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STONEISLAND 07-02-2005 10:16

Ultimate Fighting Championship
 
Did anyone see it on Bravo last night? :Yikes: What a sport that is, not for the faint hearted.

This is better than boxing and I thougth I would never find a sport thats better.

Ramrod 07-02-2005 10:36

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Yep, they have some hard types on that but afaik it can degenerate into grappling which isn't very exciting to watch.

bopdude 07-02-2005 10:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by skunk4u
Did anyone see it on Bravo last night? :Yikes: What a sport that is, not for the faint hearted.

This is better than boxing and I thougth I would never find a sport thats better.

I didn't see that one but a guy at work has a few, one was the 40 greatest knockouts :shocked: they go at each other, thats for sure

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Yep, they have some hard types on that but afaik it can degenerate into grappling which isn't very exciting to watch.

Too true, turns into a restling match :(

ikthius 07-02-2005 10:57

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yes, people who do this sport mostly do ju jitsu, which is a wrestling martial arts.

but most fights go to ground at some point, when you knock someone down, keep them down is much easier that let them back up , especially if you are smaller and have a smaller reach to fight on feet, get them down, and you will have a beter advantage on ground.

it is ok, but I think a wee bit over the top.

ik

STONEISLAND 07-02-2005 11:19

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Yep, they have some hard types on that but afaik it can degenerate into grappling which isn't very exciting to watch.

I think it is when there pounding the shhhhh out of them.

I saw a grapperling match that resulted in a broken arm it snaped like a twig. :shocked:
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Graham 07-02-2005 18:58

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Yep, they have some hard types on that but afaik it can degenerate into grappling which isn't very exciting to watch.

But true, apropos the recent thread about Kung Fu: There's no point in being practicing spinning flying kicks if someone's going to get you into a wrestling lock that negates your techniques!

Ramrod 07-02-2005 19:11

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Originally Posted by Graham
But true, apropos the recent thread about Kung Fu: There's no point in being practicing spinning flying kicks if someone's going to get you into a wrestling lock that negates your techniques!

Absolutely.....thats why the Gracies have dominated the ultimate fighting arena.

Russ 07-02-2005 19:17

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I've never seen anything so disturbing in all my life - legalised streetfighting IMO.

If people want to go in for that sort of thing then fine, go ahead, I'm not going to say it should be banned but for as long as it's shown on tv then I'm going to comment on it.

Ramrod 07-02-2005 19:46

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Originally Posted by Russ D
I've never seen anything so disturbing in all my life - legalised streetfighting IMO.

I disagree, these guys are superbly trained athletes and no one forces them to do it.
It's the ultimate test.

AndrewJ 07-02-2005 19:53

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If its done by there free will and others are interested then I see no issue regarding it being shown, as for children or people who may not like it a notice when you tune in onto the channel of what is being shown would stop people who don't like it being forced into seeing it while they type in another channel.

Russ 07-02-2005 19:56

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Originally Posted by Me
If people want to go in for that sort of thing then fine, go ahead, I'm not going to say it should be banned


iron25 07-02-2005 21:16

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The UFC is the only way martial artists can compete full contact with other skilled fighters in an organised tournament. In my opinion I see nothing wrong with it and I can understand some people may view it as barbaric but it isn't. If you don't like it, don't watch it.

The reason these guys take part is so they can get the opportunity to prove to themselves if their fighting skills are good enough. Where else could they do this?

I've never seen the show but I will certainly tune in to see what all the fuss is about. I'm guessing that my expectancy will be shattered after watching it and it probably won't live up to the hype :shrug:

OinkyBoinky 08-02-2005 22:40

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I've not seen it recently... but i used to be a fan of it a while back... top quality... much better than staged wrestling stuff...

iron25 09-02-2005 22:00

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I've watched it a couple of times now and to be perfectly honest I find it rather boring. Watching a good boxing match easily beats it. Most of the fights end up on the floor and are generally scrappy affairs. From what I've seen, I wasn't impressed by any of the fighters.

Graham 10-02-2005 00:54

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Originally Posted by iron25
I've watched it a couple of times now and to be perfectly honest I find it rather boring. Watching a good boxing match easily beats it. Most of the fights end up on the floor and are generally scrappy affairs. From what I've seen, I wasn't impressed by any of the fighters.

The thing is, what you're watching is a *real* fight.

A boxing match is exactly that, a *match*, a staged contest between relatively equal opponents with a lot of set rules and a referee to enforce them.

It's very easy to be impressed by someone fighting in a contest like that, but to win in a "no holds barred" event is another matter entirely.

iron25 10-02-2005 21:39

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Originally Posted by Graham
The thing is, what you're watching is a *real* fight.

A boxing match is exactly that, a *match*, a staged contest between relatively equal opponents with a lot of set rules and a referee to enforce them.

It's very easy to be impressed by someone fighting in a contest like that, but to win in a "no holds barred" event is another matter entirely.


I don't disagree with you but as a spectacle, a good boxing match is far more enjoyable to watch and correct me if I'm wrong but the UFC is not a true 'no holds barred' event, there are still rules which they have to adhere to.

Graham 10-02-2005 22:27

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Originally Posted by iron25
I don't disagree with you but as a spectacle, a good boxing match is far more enjoyable to watch

If you like boxing, sure, you can watch techique and style etc, but it's a different sort of event.

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and correct me if I'm wrong but the UFC is not a true 'no holds barred' event, there are still rules which they have to adhere to.
Ok, *almost* no holds barred. I'm sure they don't allow eye gouging etc, but there's very few restrictions.

STONEISLAND 11-02-2005 08:20

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Rules

Bout duration:
  1. All non-championship bouts shall be three rounds.
  2. All championship bouts shall be five rounds.
  3. Rounds will be five minutes in duration, with a one minute.
  4. A one-minute rest period will occur between each round.
Fouls:
  1. Butting with the head.
  2. Eye gouging of any kind.
  3. Biting.
  4. Hair pulling.
  5. Fish hooking.
  6. Groin attacks of any kind.
  7. Putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or laceration on an opponent.
  8. Small joint manipulation.
  9. Striking to the spine or the back of the head.
  10. Striking downward using the point of the elbow.
  11. Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea.
  12. Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh.
  13. Grabbing the clavicle.
  14. Kicking the head of a grounded opponent.
  15. Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent.
  16. Stomping a grounded opponent.
  17. Kicking to the kidney with the heel.
  18. Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck.
  19. Throwing an opponent out of the ring or fenced area.
  20. Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent.
  21. Spitting at an opponent.
  22. Engaging in an unsportsmanlike conduct that causes an injury to an opponent.
  23. Holding the ropes or the fence.
  24. Using abusive language in the ring or fenced area.
  25. Attacking an opponent on or during the break.
  26. Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee.
  27. Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat.
  28. Flagrantly disregarding the instructions of the referee.
  29. Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury.
  30. Interference by the corner.
  31. Throwing in the towel during competition.
Ways To Win:
  1. Submission by:
    • Physical tap out.
    • Verbal tap out.
    • Technical knockout by the referee stopping the contest.
  2. Technical knockout by the referee stopping the contest.
  3. Decision via the scorecards, including:
    • Unanimous decision.
    • Split decision.
    • Majority decision.
    • Draw, including:
      • Unanimous draw.
      • Majority draw.
      • Split draw.
  4. Technical decision.
  5. Technical draw.
  6. Disqualification.
  7. Forfeit.
  8. No contest.

Ramrod 11-02-2005 08:29

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Wow, I didn't know there were that many rules.......

STONEISLAND 11-02-2005 09:14

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Whats fish hooking mean?

Russ 11-02-2005 09:18

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You've not seen that episode of Friends??? :D

Hooking your finger inside your opponent's mouth and pulling at their cheek.

Ramrod 11-02-2005 09:19

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Whats fish hooking mean?

What Geoff (in red) is doing to the guy in blue

STONEISLAND 11-02-2005 09:21

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
What Geoff (in red) is doing to the guy in blue

:Yikes: looks painfull is geff your mate?

Ramrod 11-02-2005 09:25

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Originally Posted by skunk4u
:Yikes: looks painfull is geff your mate?

Nope. He's just (in)famous in the martial arts fraternity.


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