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Damien 21-01-2005 16:51

Is your iPod too quiet?
 
I don't know about you by my iPod sometimes seems far to quiet! This is because the French (bah!) have restrictions and the EU enforces this! So our iPodâ₠¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s have a limit on the loudness of the iPod compared to the American ones. As the American laws are less strict on this issue

This setting is enforced in the firmware of the iPod. This can be changed to remove the EU cap.

http://gopod.free-go.net/index_en.htm

That program is easy to use (really! one click! screenshots below) and will remove the cap. So it is EXACTLY like the non-EU versions.

First of all remember that there is a reason the EU limited it. This is because it may be harmful to listen to the iPod on max volume with loud songs for long use. So donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t listen to loud songs for long periods of time on max volume.

Also remember this is changing a firmware setting. Although it is easy to use and I havenââ‚ÆšÃ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t heard of one case were it damages the iPod just remember that this isnââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t made by apple

1) Download from http://gopod.free-go.net/index_en.htm

2) Open program

3) Press Go, thatâ₠¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s it. The big 'go' button on the screenshot.

4) Enjoy your uncapped iPod :D


I have used it, took a mintue to download and use. Just press go, its that easy. (Note: This was all done on Mac)

This is not made or approved by Apple. As usual beware that this is hacking your hardware. The Programs read-me is attached for more information

Chris 21-01-2005 17:21

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
:tu: A good find Damien, thanks.

Halcyon 21-01-2005 17:21

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
That will not damage your pod at all, but as you mention it could damage your ears if used for long periods of time.
Its a good hack though if you use your pod on your hifi and the signal is too weak.

Chris 21-01-2005 17:21

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
The usual warnings about unauthorised hacking of your hardware should apply of course, at your own risk and all that ....

Jarandco 21-01-2005 17:56

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
Thats very useful, great info, just worried about using it, espcially as the Ipod isnt cheap! But would a complete reset wipe the firmware off of it? I take it it doesnt effect connectivity with Itunes or ipod updater?

Damien 21-01-2005 18:11

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
It doesnt wipe the firmware it just changes the limit that the EU ipods have put into the firmware. There are no problems with connecting to iTunes. It works just as it used to. Other than the increased volume capcaity you would not know anythings been changed. The iPod works just like normal and connects like normal. This isnt a hack in the normal sense that it makes a radical change. It simply changes a option in the hidden settings. It doesnt not seriously overhaul or change code. Just one setting that can be de-activited at will

I havent used it with the iPod updater but i dont think it cause problems as other people havent had problems. Although every iPod firmware will properly put the cap back on so after you install an update (iPod updates come every few months) you may need to run the program again to remove the cap.

The program allows you switch the cap back on or back off, as many times as you like.
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Quote:

Q : What exactly does this program ?
A : More or less, it modifies
the 2 bytes from iPod's firmware which are telling it if it is
capped or not. The firmware's partition being unreachable
(altered), this program uses low level libraries to access it.
Check the source for more details.

Q : F*** my iPod doesn't work anymore ! What can I do ?
A : Keep cool. Launch a restoration using the Apple tool available
here : http://www.apple.com/ipod/download/

SMHarman 21-01-2005 18:12

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon
That will not damage your pod at all, but as you mention it could damage your ears if used for long periods of time.
Its a good hack though if you use your pod on your hifi and the signal is too weak.

Shouldn't make a difference on your hifi as that is a line out at a set volume (if you are using the dock and the proper line out that is).
An alternative is to get noise reducing headphones, much better for your hearing.
This said. I've got a US iPod, so I'm not sure how much quieter the EU ones are though.

Damien 21-01-2005 18:45

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SMHarman
Shouldn't make a difference on your hifi as that is a line out at a set volume (if you are using the dock and the proper line out that is).
An alternative is to get noise reducing headphones, much better for your hearing.
This said. I've got a US iPod, so I'm not sure how much quieter the EU ones are though.

Somes songs are awful because of it. 'Imagine' by Lennon for example is horrible as its tooo quiet. Some songs are loud enough anyway
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AS a side note, this was the 666th topic in this forum, Whahahaha!

AndrewJ 21-01-2005 20:46

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
this thread should be made a sticky because I know alot of people with this issue about Ipods.


Useful thread mate.

MadGamer 21-01-2005 22:56

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon
That will not damage your pod at all, but as you mention it could damage your ears if used for long periods of time.
Its a good hack though if you use your pod on your hifi and the signal is too weak.

Just to mention on this. Even on half volume, i find it too quiet. Is this legal to do though?

Damien 21-01-2005 23:02

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne A
Just to mention on this. Even on half volume, i find it too quiet. Is this legal to do though?

Yes, Although not in france for some reason. But even there is nothing anyone will care about. Its your product to do what you want with it

MadGamer 21-01-2005 23:05

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne A
Just to mention on this. Even on half volume, i find it too quiet. Is this legal to do though?

Yes, Although not in france for some reason. But even there is nothing anyone will care about. Its your product to do what you want with it

Just downloading the new software update now, then i will download goPod.

AndrewJ 21-01-2005 23:43

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
I reckon the limit in france is 100db brought in to stop hearing damage from personal audio equipment..can you imagine a chav having to live over there. :dozey:

Mike 21-01-2005 23:43

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne A
Just downloading the new software update now, then i will download goPod.

Let us know how it goes please ! :Yikes:

Damien 21-01-2005 23:48

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike
Let us know how it goes please ! :Yikes:

I have done it and it worked fine. I was scared, and after it happens the apple logo appears (as per usual with updates/changes or a reset) but then it works as normal

Damien 22-01-2005 23:44

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
Did anyone install it? I used mine for the first time since applying the hack and it worked great. For once i am happy with the volume not being all the way up as it is still louder and the norm but can go higher still! :disturbd:

Edit: Has the feature to attach a double post into one post gone? Thas was useful!

welwynrose 01-02-2005 13:17

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
easy answer to this problem just import an ipod

skyblueheroes 01-02-2005 13:32

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by welwynrose
easy answer to this problem just import an ipod

Thats what I've done. Hopefully arriving today :cool:

SMHarman 11-05-2005 14:12

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
The flip side of the iPod volume thing...

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'iPods can make you deaf'
By Mark Prigg, Evening Standard
11 May 2005
A health alert over the dangers to your hearing from portable music players is issued today.

Experts say the huge popularity of iPods and other players could leave a generation of music fans with serious problems.

London commuters face the greatest risk as they play the machines at potentially damaging volume levels because of the background noise on Tubes and trains.

A leading expert warned that people had to use the players more responsibly. Andrew Reid, head of audiology at the Royal United Hospital in Bristol, said: "This is a big problem for young people, and there is a real risk that prolonged listening could lead to permanent hearing damage."

Mr Reid added: "If you are on a Tube, you have to turn the player up to dangerous levels just to hear it. Over time, this is going to lead to problems like tinnitus and severe damage to the inner ear." Tinnitus and noise-induced hearing loss occurs when the delicate hair nerve cells that line the inner ear suffer repeated trauma from loud sound vibrations.

According to Mr Reid, the first signs are a ringing or buzzing in the ears. "People really need to turn down the player straight away and consult their doctor if the problems continue," he warned.

Experts say the problem has reached critical levels due to the popularity of the iPod. Apple has sold 5.6million worldwide since it was introduced in 2001, along with over 250 million songs via its online music store.

Experts believe that usage has increased dramatically because owners can now carry their entire CD collection with them, and the latest players give up to 30 hours' playback on a single battery charge.

Recent research found that 39 per cent of 18 to 24-year-olds listen to personal stereos for more than an hour each day, with 13 per cent listening for two hours or more.

The Royal National Institute for the Deaf said: "We are concerned that many people are turning up the volume on their personal stereos to levels that could create hearing loss in the long term."

The RNID has launched a new website, www.dontlosethemusic.com, to warn users about the problem. It says users who are worried should investigate buying in-ear headphones that can block out background noise, allowing the volume of players to be turned down.

Experts today called for Apple and other manufacturers to limit the volume of their players, and for users to limit their listening to under an hour a day.

According to one expert, reducing the time people listen to their player is key.

"It would obviously be beneficial to reduce the volume and restrict the usage of personal players," said Christine DePlacido of the Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy.

She added: "The difficulty is in persuading people to do this before their hearing is damaged, as many believe hearing loss will not happen to them until they are much older. A lot of the young people I see with tinnitus describe listening to music at high intensities."

Apple said all iPods sold in Britain complied with EU volume standards, but refused to comment on the new research.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...ing%20Standard


TheBlueRaja 11-05-2005 14:15

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skyblueheroes
Thats what I've done. Hopefully arriving today :cool:

Me too - not a problem - and a damn site cheaper! :D

30 Gig iPod photo for 190 quid. MUHUHAHAHA

Chris 11-05-2005 14:29

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
I don't think the sound restriction can have been applied to the earliest iPods sold in the UK. I've been using mine with headphones for the first time in ages this week, and happily deafened myself on the Underground, listening to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy on full volume, as mentioned by the Evening Standard. :D

SMHarman 11-05-2005 16:37

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
well listening to "disaster area" can be a pretty deafening experience.

For the non H2G2 readers of this thread
Quote:

Originally Posted by the book
claimed to be the loudest band in the universe, and in fact the loudest sound of any kind, anywhere. So loud is this band that the audience usually listens from the safe distance of thirty-seven miles away in a well built bunker.


chrispy61 26-05-2008 19:25

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
what do you do when its tells you ipod not connected when it is?

Hugh 26-05-2008 20:04

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
:bump:after 3 years.........

chrispy61 26-05-2008 21:34

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
its a new ipod nano 8 gb. when i plug it in nothing happens? can it not be done with the new ones?

homealone 26-05-2008 22:22

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34560429)
:bump:after 3 years.........

oy, play nice - at least they did a search before posting ;) :D

---------- Post added at 21:22 ---------- Previous post was at 21:20 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrispy61 (Post 34560482)
its a new ipod nano 8 gb. when i plug it in nothing happens? can it not be done with the new ones?

:welcome: chrispy61

I have to say I don't know a lot about this, but Mrs Gaz got an ipod shuffle, yesterday & that seems to be working ok.

- couple of questions, do you have the i-tunes software installed & which operating system are you using??

chrispy61 26-05-2008 22:33

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
yea i-tunes is installed, on windows vista. my brother has an old nano and its way louder thats why i searched to see if there was anyway of doing it. Cheers

homealone 26-05-2008 23:10

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrispy61 (Post 34560526)
yea i-tunes is installed, on windows vista. my brother has an old nano and its way louder thats why i searched to see if there was anyway of doing it. Cheers


When you say 'nothing happens', does Vista not recognise it as a device, at all, or do you mean that a patch which works on your brothers old ipod to increase the volume, doesn't work with your new one?

chrispy61 27-05-2008 20:02

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
The program doesnt reconise when the ipods plugged in, itunes does, that all workes fine. No i mean my brothers older ipod is alot louder as standard with nothing done to it.

homealone 27-05-2008 20:20

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrispy61 (Post 34561019)
The program doesnt reconise when the ipods plugged in, itunes does, that all workes fine. No i mean my brothers older ipod is alot louder as standard with nothing done to it.

As I say, I don't know a great deal about this - my understanding is that everything has to be done through i-tunes, hence the behaviour you are seeing.

The volume thing is due, afaik, to EEC legislation restricting the maximum volume of portable music players & is set in the firmware.

It used to be possible to find alternative firmware, or a software patch to increase the 'default' volume, but someone who knows a bit more about it may be able to confirm if it is still possible??

SMHarman 27-05-2008 22:04

Re: Is your iPod too quiet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrispy61 (Post 34561019)
The program doesnt reconise when the ipods plugged in, itunes does, that all workes fine. No i mean my brothers older ipod is alot louder as standard with nothing done to it.

You are trying to use a piece of software for a older ipod with older firmware and hardware on the touch. I imagine there is new software to do the same. Visit the site of the original software but it is unlikely it will work due to the change in hardware, software and firmware.


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