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Chrysalis 20-01-2005 02:07
centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Hi, I would like to start this is not made up by me and if wrong or right would appreciate no personal abuse.

I spoke to my sister asking about the NTL situation with centrica, and she says she is 100% sure since its on her intranet at work, centrica also recently brought AA and goldfish companies both of them done in private. I asked her about NTL as it is a shareholder company and she said its possible they just brought shares and became a major shareholder but they defenitly do own at least part of it, future changes include a NTL name change expected within 6 months and will defenitly happen within a year. Centrica have already pumped in over 200 million into NTL as well. Me and my sister think either normal NTL staff havent been told or they have been told but told to not disclose anything to the public.

Take it or leave it.

Bill C 20-01-2005 08:06
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrysalis
Hi, I would like to start this is not made up by me and if wrong or right would appreciate no personal abuse.

I spoke to my sister asking about the NTL situation with centrica, and she says she is 100% sure since its on her intranet at work, centrica also recently brought AA and goldfish companies both of them done in private. I asked her about NTL as it is a shareholder company and she said its possible they just brought shares and became a major shareholder but they defenitly do own at least part of it, future changes include a NTL name change expected within 6 months and will defenitly happen within a year. Centrica have already pumped in over 200 million into NTL as well. Me and my sister think either normal NTL staff havent been told or they have been told but told to not disclose anything to the public.

Take it or leave it.
Well that is complete and utter toss, take it or leave it.

It would have been talked about in the press or on the stock websites but nothing.

My bet still stands as far as centica [british gas] goes for 6 months.

I will show my butt in the trafford centre if it turns out centrica own enough of ntl to.

1 Change the name
2 Have any say in the way ntl are run .

I will now leave it and wait to see if i have a cold butt in the next 6 months :LOL:

Derek 20-01-2005 08:09
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
I'll leave it.

STONEISLAND 20-01-2005 08:37
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
I work for Centrica and can confirm this to be rubbish. I have not even so much as heard a rummer!!!!!

etccarmageddon 20-01-2005 08:38
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
I know someone who works at NTL in the R and D department - this whole Centrica deal depends on whether the companies can fit together so they're working on GAS powered cable modems. There are at least a dozen Centrica employees there right now working with NTL.

At the moment they're having serious problems with the trial due to fluctuations in broadband speeds where customers have living flame gas fires which draw too much supply away from the modem. I have it on authority that if these problems arent sorted soon then the Centrica deal is dead in the water. If everything goes to plan though, there will be a national role out of GPB (gas powered broadband) even in non cable areas meaning direct competition with BT nationally.

Bill C 20-01-2005 08:39
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by skunk4u
I work for Centrica and can confirm this to be rubbish. I have not even so much as heard a rummer!!!!!
Exactly :)

Have said it before and i will say it again this is Bovine Excreta :)

JohnHorb 20-01-2005 08:57
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Centrica do have a relationship with McQuairy (sp?) who are involved in the purchase of Broadcast. Or it could be that NTL is an acronym for oNeTeL.

STONEISLAND 20-01-2005 08:59
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
http://essential/imageserver/img_brand_logo1.gif20 January 2005 http://essential/imageserver/openhelp.gif Help

Just to prove i have Internet with Centrica.

I have serched and serched and found nothing :confused:

Toto 20-01-2005 09:19
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
I know someone who works at NTL in the R and D department - this whole Centrica deal depends on whether the companies can fit together so they're working on GAS powered cable modems. There are at least a dozen Centrica employees there right now working with NTL.

At the moment they're having serious problems with the trial due to fluctuations in broadband speeds where customers have living flame gas fires which draw too much supply away from the modem. I have it on authority that if these problems arent sorted soon then the Centrica deal is dead in the water. If everything goes to plan though, there will be a national role out of GPB (gas powered broadband) even in non cable areas meaning direct competition with BT nationally.
LOL, nearly threw up my shreddies all over my screen.

Well done, just the tonic I needed this morning :) :D

etccarmageddon 20-01-2005 09:23
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill C
Bovine Excreta
Is an amagram of:-


Evob Ex Centria


which is probably a coded message to centrica staff or perhaps will be the name of the NTL and Centrica merged company?

gary_580 20-01-2005 09:37
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrysalis
Hi, I would like to start this is not made up by me and if wrong or right would appreciate no personal abuse.

I spoke to my sister asking about the NTL situation with centrica, and she says she is 100% sure since its on her intranet at work, centrica also recently brought AA and goldfish companies both of them done in private. I asked her about NTL as it is a shareholder company and she said its possible they just brought shares and became a major shareholder but they defenitly do own at least part of it, future changes include a NTL name change expected within 6 months and will defenitly happen within a year. Centrica have already pumped in over 200 million into NTL as well. Me and my sister think either normal NTL staff havent been told or they have been told but told to not disclose anything to the public.

Take it or leave it.

errrmmmm ever heard of the stock market? This sort of thing has to be disclosed to the market before it can be disclosed to employees.

Is English your first language ;)

Pierre 20-01-2005 09:55
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrysalis
Hi, I would like to start this is not made up by me and if wrong or right would appreciate no personal abuse.

I spoke to my sister asking about the NTL situation with centrica, and she says she is 100% sure since its on her intranet at work, centrica also recently brought AA and goldfish companies both of them done in private. I asked her about NTL as it is a shareholder company and she said its possible they just brought shares and became a major shareholder but they defenitly do own at least part of it, future changes include a NTL name change expected within 6 months and will defenitly happen within a year. Centrica have already pumped in over 200 million into NTL as well. Me and my sister think either normal NTL staff havent been told or they have been told but told to not disclose anything to the public.

Take it or leave it.
Please stop before you embarrass yourself any further.

orangebird 20-01-2005 09:55
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnHorb
Centrica do have a relationship with McQuairy (sp?) who are involved in the purchase of Broadcast. Or it could be that NTL is an acronym for oNeTeL.
May be that's the connection - McQuairy (sp?) Comms is the company that's bought the Broadcast division....

STONEISLAND 20-01-2005 09:56
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrysalis
centrica also recently brought AA and goldfish companies both of them done in private. Centrica have already pumped in over 200 million into NTL as well. Me and my sister think either normal NTL staff havent been told or they have been told but told to not disclose anything to the public.

Take it or leave it.
Centrica In fact recently sold the AA and we did away with goldfish ages ago.
Centrica has not pumped in over 2 million into NTL ether.
Your sister is compleatly wrong. :(

goldoni 20-01-2005 10:13
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
I know someone who works at NTL in the R and D department - this whole Centrica deal depends on whether the companies can fit together so they're working on GAS powered cable modems. There are at least a dozen Centrica employees there right now working with NTL.

At the moment they're having serious problems with the trial due to fluctuations in broadband speeds where customers have living flame gas fires which draw too much supply away from the modem. I have it on authority that if these problems arent sorted soon then the Centrica deal is dead in the water. If everything goes to plan though, there will be a national role out of GPB (gas powered broadband) even in non cable areas meaning direct competition with BT nationally.
The problem has been they did not get a CORGI registered NTL engineer to fit the modem. If two of the six 15mm elbows were removed the modem would have 20mb WP and would work within its designed spec. QED :D

BBKing 20-01-2005 10:16
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
AA sale was last July, to private VC firms. It was bought way back in 1999.

Centrica definitely have dealings with Macquarie, who also have dealings with ntl. So Centrica could be paying Macquarie for power who then use the money to pay ntl for the broadcast deal. Forget about the middle man and it looks like two deals are actually one.

Centrica and ntl are both members of Otelo (Office of the United Kingdom Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman), but so are seven other major telecoms players, most of whom have deals with each other in a greater or lesser degree. Nothing out of the ordinary.

Perhaps we could have a snippet of this famous intranet?

STONEISLAND 20-01-2005 10:27
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BBKing
Perhaps we could have a snippet of this famous intranet?
I would but funny enougth could not find anything in regards to NTL.:td:

Toto 20-01-2005 11:01
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by skunk4u
Centrica In fact recently sold the AA and we did away with goldfish ages ago.
Centrica has not pumped in over 2 million into NTL ether.
Your sister is compleatly wrong. :(
Actually he said 200 Million :)

But your point is well made, the statement made is full of holes, and goes against the excellent reporting that the business community refer to. If such a huge investment had been made, or that blocks of shares had been purchased that would allow Centrica to take over ntl, although I'm not sure why they would want to, we would have heard about it, and the share movements of ntl would indicate such. For centrica to do this anonymously is beyond belief, as they too have answer to regulatory bodies.

Although, a picture of Bill C, running through the trafford centre butt naked, or at least mooning the poor unsuspecting punters makes me almost wish that Chrysalis information was correct :)

scrotnig 20-01-2005 11:14
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
I can't believe this thread still drags on.

Centrica do NOT own ntl. Period.

They didn't buy the AA 'recently', they bought them many years ago and have in fact since sold them on.

They did not buy Goldfish, they actually set Goldfish up from scratch.

No arguments, that is the situation. Thanks.

Toto 20-01-2005 12:31
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark B
I can't believe this thread still drags on.

Centrica do NOT own ntl. Period.

They didn't buy the AA 'recently', they bought them many years ago and have in fact since sold them on.

They did not buy Goldfish, they actually set Goldfish up from scratch.

No arguments, that is the situation. Thanks.
Party pooper ;)

Frank 20-01-2005 13:37
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
I know someone who works at NTL in the R and D department - this whole Centrica deal depends on whether the companies can fit together so they're working on GAS powered cable modems. There are at least a dozen Centrica employees there right now working with NTL.

At the moment they're having serious problems with the trial due to fluctuations in broadband speeds where customers have living flame gas fires which draw too much supply away from the modem. I have it on authority that if these problems arent sorted soon then the Centrica deal is dead in the water. If everything goes to plan though, there will be a national role out of GPB (gas powered broadband) even in non cable areas meaning direct competition with BT nationally.
Hehe, very good, certainly made me chuckle :)

Bill C 20-01-2005 17:11
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toto

Although, a picture of Bill C, running through the trafford centre butt naked, or at least mooning the poor unsuspecting punters makes me almost wish that Chrysalis information was correct :)
:LOL:

Trust me you dont want to see that :)

altis 20-01-2005 17:38
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
P'raps we should commission Incognitas to do a wooden spoon of the month award :D

BTW, here's the OP's infamous 'brought out' thread (now locked):

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=21910

Chrysalis 20-01-2005 17:40
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Well unfortently I have no access to the intranet myself either, I just forwarded what my sister told me.

Centrica are not a gas company.

Stuart 20-01-2005 17:47
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrysalis
Centrica are not a gas company.

Erm, if we are talking about the same Centrica, they were formed from British Gas..

Quote:
From http://www.centrica.co.uk/index.asp?pageid=16
17 February 1997

Centrica is created following the demerger of British Gas plc. The group comprised the gas supply, services and retail businesses of British Gas, together with the gas production business of the North and South Morecambe gas fields. It also retained ownership of the Goldfish brand.
While they are no longer purely a Gas company, they still do Gas

Bill C 20-01-2005 17:51
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by scastle
Erm, if we are talking about the same Centrica, they were formed from British Gas..



While they are no longer purely a Gas company, they still do Gas

Knowledge of the subject goes a long way to making sure the facts are correct :)

Ignition 20-01-2005 18:51
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
£200 million?!

Sadly that wouldn't go 'into' ntl, but into shareholder's pockets. Minor other issue of course that £200 million would do you for about 6% of ntl, which is worth considerably in excess of £3 billion.

A takeover of a NASDAQ company, or even owning of any considerable sum of shares would require various market declarations to be made by bother parties. Centrica valued at £9 billion I don't think would have the stomach to spend that much on ntl, especially when ntl seem more interested in merging (takeover paid for with shares) with Telewest and making a £5 biliion cableco (various rumours about this one, a lot pointing in the same direction, which unlike this drivel I believe).

HOWEVER the idea of gas powered broadband is top notch, especially after the curry I had last night, would that be considered uncapping the modem though? :scratch:

daxx 20-01-2005 20:05
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
6 months down the line:

BG engineers arrive to dig holes for the new FTTH
NTL engineers arrive to lay new HP gas mains

due to the cross training they all now receive the fiasco of downed overheads, smashed utility mains multiplies proportionately.

The end result is the entire city of Manchester without 'any' utilities whatsoever.

A subsequent govt: investigation (funded by Centrica) reveals it was the fault of the European Airbus Consortium (not owned by Centrica) whose brand new a380 had just made a fully publicised and scheduled landing at MIA and Network Rail, whose 12:32 into Stoke from Euston arrived on schedule

Bill C are you aware that the warm season is approaching and the TC air con will be considerably 'chilled' :D

edit: please note that the use of the word engineers is applied from a public pov and is no way a reflection on any persons whose actual physical job (not job description) involves work of an 'engineering' type. (before I start getting red repped or slagged off)

Bill C 20-01-2005 20:24
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by daxx

Bill C are you aware that the warm season is approaching and the TC air con will be considerably 'chilled' :D

Could use goose grease in the correct places :Yikes:

poolking 20-01-2005 22:41
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Bill C,

Just bare your butt in public, you've mentioned it twice now, you really want to do it, but waiting for someone to give you the encouragement you are seeking. :)

Let us know the date and we will be there and I'm sure someone will document it for the CF archives. :D

Maggy 20-01-2005 23:30
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by altis
P'raps we should commission Incognitas to do a wooden spoon of the month award :D
It would never be out of use though would it? ;)

ian@huth 21-01-2005 01:25
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignition
HOWEVER the idea of gas powered broadband is top notch, especially after the curry I had last night, would that be considered uncapping the modem though? :scratch:
I thought that you would know better Ig. It's nothing to do with uncapping the modem, it's the wireless access point. :D

Apparantly Bill C may be demonstrating one in the Trafford centre in due course and if successful he may remain there and become the first hot-spot for customers to connect to the new CenNTWest services whilst shopping. :)

Gareth 21-01-2005 08:55
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Does that mean we can call him an Evil Twin

Neil 21-01-2005 10:22
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
I think this thread has (more than) run it's course, so unless anyone has any cast iron proof regarding Centrica/ntl, then I will be closing the thread shortly. :)

STONEISLAND 21-01-2005 10:25
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil
I think this thread has (more than) run it's course, so unless anyone has any cast iron proof regarding Centrica/ntl, then I will be closing the thread shortly. :)
As i said I work for Centrica PLC and I'm struggling to find any truth in the rummor of a take over of NTL. So close the thread. :)

Nemesis 21-01-2005 10:30
Re: centrica feedback concerning NTL
 
This is the closest I've got.

Quote:
†œThe rapid growth we have experienced poses significant management challenges. To help us achieve our goals, we have made a number of senior management appointments during 2000. In the UK we have recruited Stephen Carter, formerly CEO of J. Walter Thompson UK Group, as Managing Director and brought in Stuart Ross from Centrica as the Group Finance Director. Nigel Roberts joined as Group Treasurer from Cable & Wireless. At NTL Europe, Bruno Claude was recruited as Managing Director from CEA Capital Advisors. We believe that their operational leadership, coupled with the hard work of our dedicated managers and associates, will drive NTL to achieve our 2001 financial targets of £2.6 billion in revenues and £385 million of EBITDA.ââ‚à ‚¬Ã‚


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