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Tristan 27-12-2004 14:11

"VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds17933.html

As he says, it's unconfirmed, but James is usually pretty accurate with his sources.

My bet in Langley areas first, with Bromley following after a software update, but I've been wrong before...

Bob 27-12-2004 14:41

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
If I remember rightly is was going to be Glasgow first, but things may have changed since then :) Both areas will require a software update for this, so its probalbly going to be rolled out at the same time across both platforms :)

quadplay 27-12-2004 14:55

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
I believe the majority of Celtic areas have had VoD kit installed in headends, but don't quote me on that... I think Jan 18th is a little bit optimistic, though, going on what information I've seen.

Stephen 27-12-2004 14:56

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
They might do Glasgow, Belfast and then wales first as they did with CR3.

Derek 27-12-2004 15:08

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
But CR3 was Swansea, Cardiff, Belfast then Glasgow. (I think. Glasgow was certainly one of the last areas)

As it is anyone involved will have non-disclosure agreements coming from every orifice so I wouldn't expect any official news anytime soon.

Stephen 27-12-2004 16:34

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
I never said that would be the order but possibly those areas will be among the first when/if we see it arrive.

jtwn 27-12-2004 17:27

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Do any of you have a clue as in the timescale of the rollout to most areas? Or any areas that have the 'kit' installed in them?

Derek 05-01-2005 19:05

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Well according to some people over on DSpy the boxes are getting updated with new software now.

quadplay 05-01-2005 19:30

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
And I'll bet you're rebooting your box like crazy, eh, Dezzo? ;)

bigitup_j 05-01-2005 19:48

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
yes, the roll-out of the VOD software has started in Glasgow.
:)

Stephen 05-01-2005 20:14

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Yes for some pace boxes but still the actual launch could be a few weeks away.

Graham F 05-01-2005 20:51

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
more info here...

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/b...396815?source=

looks like it is happening very soon :)

Pieman 06-01-2005 10:03

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Thanks for the article - explains nicely......be interesting to see the pricing - you would hope it would be one of these things that starts high and as more people use it the price comes down.......

sherer 06-01-2005 10:12

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
this all sounds good but there still isn't any real details as to what will be available.. i.e can i download corrie and eastenders if i miss it in pure digital format ?

still at least it seems like NTL are finally starting to move forwards with what they were planning this year rather than just the usual "coming soon"..

if VODs on the way when is PVR functionality ?

Stephen 06-01-2005 11:32

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer
this all sounds good but there still isn't any real details as to what will be available.. i.e can i download corrie and eastenders if i miss it in pure digital format ?

still at least it seems like NTL are finally starting to move forwards with what they were planning this year rather than just the usual "coming soon"..

if VODs on the way when is PVR functionality ?

There will be marketing coming soon for all customers around the launch time.

PVR should be here by the end of the year.

bontrager 06-01-2005 12:50

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pieman
Thanks for the article - explains nicely......be interesting to see the pricing - you would hope it would be one of these things that starts high and as more people use it the price comes down.......

I kinda hope it starts low and stays low ;)

the free stuff will be handy anyway, and finally NTL will have something to offer that sky cant

jtwn 06-01-2005 13:58

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

...will be able to fast-forward and rewind programmes
Is that what vod will actually allow? I thought that was a feature in pvr's court.

bigitup_j 06-01-2005 14:06

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
you will be able to rewind and fforward VOD content, and pause it, and stop it and then return later in the day.
very flexible. but you'd need a PVR to pause, rewind live broadcast tv.

bob_builder 06-01-2005 14:15

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer
this all sounds good but there still isn't any real details as to what will be available.. i.e can i download corrie and eastenders if i miss it in pure digital format ?

No, VOD does not let you "download" anything and will work through your current STB. Just think of it like pay-per-view movies but with the added features of being able to choose exactly when you want to start watching and being able to pause, rewind, etc. whilst watching.

ntlrocks 06-01-2005 20:47

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
ntl VOD will feature "catch up tv" which is the FREE section. It will feature the top programs off tv, from the past 24 hours (or the past week) and you will view it, e.g you miss yesterdays corrie?...select and watch...and pause...and rewind.

sherer 06-01-2005 21:24

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
great that just the sort of service NTL should be offering to showcase the benefits of cable over sat TV

bob_builder 07-01-2005 10:31

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ntlrocks
ntl VOD will feature "catch up tv" which is the FREE section. It will feature the top programs off tv, from the past 24 hours (or the past week) and you will view it, e.g you miss yesterdays corrie?...select and watch...and pause...and rewind.

But nobody really knows what programmes are going to be on this service, if it is Corrie, Stenders, etc. then it will be very popular (and I hope they do not start charging for it) if it is not then there will be a limited audience. There is no guarantee that your favourite TV programme will be included so it is not as good as a true PVR.

sherer 07-01-2005 10:43

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
true i guess just like the cap until we get an official announcement from NTL we are only really guessing.. still it looks like NTL is moving in the right direction

Stephen 07-01-2005 14:33

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Catch up TV will feature stuff from BBC for a start not sure about anything else yet.

Tristan 07-01-2005 17:00

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthYoda
Catch up TV will feature stuff from BBC for a start not sure about anything else yet.

Channel 4 have stuff on Homechoice apparently, so there's a good chance this will appear on cable too. It all depends on what deals the On Demand people can strike (they're responsible for the content, not NTL or Telewest).

DeKurver 08-01-2005 17:25

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jtwn
Do any of you have a clue as in the timescale of the rollout to most areas? Or any areas that have the 'kit' installed in them?

According to the latest news article, the rollout willl take a couple of years to complete.

ntl confirms January VOD launch

Jonathan David 08-01-2005 18:29

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
I guess this would be because of the time it will take to upgrade areas that have poor cable to the door.

BBKing 08-01-2005 18:59

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Not that so much - the length of time it takes to install all the equipment and ensure all the myriad types of STB work properly with the new software is the main kicker, although the latter at least only has to be done once. You do need good quality cable though, so there's a fair bit of effort in that direction, too before you can launch. Add in the fact that we still have three billing systems and you're not talking easy.

Odd to be able to talk about it now - hope it works!

Ridge 08-01-2005 20:51

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Imagine being able to go Na Na Na Na to all the people that got Sky + and boasted about it, by the end of the year we should (and that is a big should) have VOD and PVR. YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

ntlrocks 08-01-2005 20:57

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
i just honestly really hope they advertise it really well!! to find out what ntl: offers, you usually have to go to your local shopping center and see the wee people sitting at the desks

Ridge 09-01-2005 11:30

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
When PVR and VOD comes in Ntl will become a major threat to Sky. Sky is going to have to think of ways of outdoing Ntl. For once ntl might be ahead of Sky in a couple of years. We could start to see people that used to be with Ntl coming back to them and people that are with sky could start moving to Ntl (if they are in the areas). And a merger just shows more potential for giving sky tough competition! :Yikes:

etccarmageddon 09-01-2005 11:35

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ridge
When PVR and VOD comes in Ntl will become a major threat to Sky. Sky is going to have to think of ways of outdoing Ntl. For once ntl might be ahead of Sky in a couple of years. We could start to see people that used to be with Ntl coming back to them and people that are with sky could start moving to Ntl (if they are in the areas). And a merger just shows more potential for giving sky tough competition! :Yikes:

sky will make sky+ the entry level standard with major promotion and priced to sell. possibly they will also bundle a BT line for less than the combinded cost.

bontrager 09-01-2005 16:46

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
lets not get carried away, this is ntl remember, they cant even do interactive without it crashing your box or making you lose youre guide...

browneggsandham 09-01-2005 20:51

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
But they can manage TV on Demand. This is essentially just an extended version of that, obviously with several differences technologically.

Browneggsandham :)

sherer 10-01-2005 10:02

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
i say lets give NTL a chance on this before we start complaining..

ok quite a few of us have had problems with the STBs, crashing, no interactive, loosing TV settings etc but they really are trying to make things better and even introduce new services and better broadband speeds..

lets wait until VOD is there and see what it is like before we start complaining..

Bob 10-01-2005 11:40

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
More news regarding VoD. And another report of Telewest's and ntl's combined effort:

http://www.dtg.org.uk/news/news.php?...ass=193&id=560

bontrager 10-01-2005 14:19

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer
i say lets give NTL a chance on this before we start complaining..

ok quite a few of us have had problems with the STBs, crashing, no interactive, loosing TV settings etc but they really are trying to make things better and even introduce new services and better broadband speeds..

lets wait until VOD is there and see what it is like before we start complaining..

yep, your probably right, its hard after being with NTL for so many years though ;)

Ridge 10-01-2005 15:45

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
If Ntl plays their cards right they could make a success of VOD, or they could majorly screw it up!

Graham F 10-01-2005 15:47

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ridge
If Ntl plays their cards right they could make a success of VOD, or they could majorly screw it up!

It might rain tomorrow or it could be dry :rolleyes: ;)

Kevin 10-01-2005 16:09

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
But do NTL own the content ?, sky have rights to so much more than Ntl and at the end of the day its not the deliver mechanisim that wins its the content.

Stuart 10-01-2005 16:12

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin
But do NTL own the content ?, sky have rights to so much more than Ntl and at the end of the day its not the deliver mechanisim that wins its the content.

They own the rights to a huge number of movies through Front Row (which this is replacing).

Tristan 10-01-2005 16:13

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin
But do NTL own the content ?, sky have rights to so much more than Ntl and at the end of the day its not the deliver mechanisim that wins its the content.

NTL don't own any content at all. It's the On Demand Group who are responsible for all that.

Aparently the VOD rights for things like movies are sold separately from the pay TV rights, so it's possible that ODG will be able to show the same films that are on Sky Movies.

As always though, we'll have to wait and see.

etccarmageddon 10-01-2005 16:21

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan
...so it's possible that ODG will be able to show the same films that are on Sky Movies.

I'd hope there'd be films from SKY box office rather than SKY movies as the films on the sky movies channels are ancient!

Tristan 10-01-2005 16:30

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
I'd hope there'd be films from SKY box office rather than SKY movies as the films on the sky movies channels are ancient!

Um... Front Row will still be there.

I was talking about the subscription services.

sherer 10-01-2005 16:32

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
i guess it's just one of those things we will just have to wait and see about.. not sure how they will handle things like 18 rated films .. don't us the On Demand stuff at the moment do how does that work over there ?

I can't see Sky letting NTL have something that will let them have an advantage though..

Would love to see TCM have their moves on VOD

Tristan 10-01-2005 16:34

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer
i guess it's just one of those things we will just have to wait and see about.. not sure how they will handle things like 18 rated films .. don't us the On Demand stuff at the moment do how does that work over there ?

I can't see Sky letting NTL have something that will let them have an advantage though..

Would love to see TCM have their moves on VOD

At the moment to see an 18 rated film outside of normal hours, you need to use your TV PIN. Presumably it will be the same for the VOD version.

What's it got to do with Sky? :confused:

sherer 10-01-2005 16:40

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
well if we wanted the movies that sky have on Sky Box Office and the movie channels don't they own the rights to them ?

Stuart 10-01-2005 16:45

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan
NTL don't own any content at all. It's the On Demand Group who are responsible for all that.

Aparently the VOD rights for things like movies are sold separately from the pay TV rights, so it's possible that ODG will be able to show the same films that are on Sky Movies.

As always though, we'll have to wait and see.


Are they anything to do with OD2 (which actually stands for OnDemand2) who provide music stores for HMV, Wanadoo, Virgin et al?

Edit: Strike that. Looks like they are not.

Tristan 10-01-2005 16:45

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer
well if we wanted the movies that sky have on Sky Box Office and the movie channels don't they own the rights to them ?

But Front Row *already* shows films that are on Sky Box Office....

Whether they'll be allowed to show films that are currently on Sky Movies is another matter, but, as I said before, VOD rights are generally sold separetely from Pay-TV rights, so this might not be a problem.

Tristan 10-01-2005 16:46

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scastle
Are they anything to do with OD2 (which actually stands for OnDemand2) who provide music stores for HMV, Wanadoo, Virgin et al?

A quick scan of their website suggests not.

http://www.ondemand.co.uk/

sherer 10-01-2005 16:50

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan
But Front Row *already* shows films that are on Sky Box Office....

Whether they'll be allowed to show films that are currently on Sky Movies is another matter, but, as I said before, VOD rights are generally sold separetely from Pay-TV rights, so this might not be a problem.

good news then potentially we can have more content then :D

i guess we just need to wait for an annoucement from NTL..

i just think it's great that we can even talk about a VOD service on NTL and hopefully later on this year PVR as well... they really are starting to move forward now even if the current service isn't perfect they are making things better and offering more services to us

altis 11-01-2005 11:38

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
El Reg is a bit behind the times!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/10/uk_vod/

Mind you, it does appear to be a good summary of the competing products.

bigitup_j 17-01-2005 17:22

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
it's the 18th of january tomorrow. and the roll-out is still schduled to happen tomorrow. :)

Neil 17-01-2005 17:29

Re: "VOD from January 18th" -- Digitalspy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigitup_j
it's the 18th of january tomorrow. and the roll-out is still schduled to happen tomorrow. :)

"Coming (very) soon" !? :D

paul11974 17-01-2005 20:42

Vod In The Bromley Area
 
:disturbd: Any ideas when it will be rolled out in this area ?

bigitup_j 17-01-2005 20:58

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
if you mean glasgow, then it's going to be switched on tonight
:)

Neil 17-01-2005 21:02

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigitup_j
if you mean glasgow, then it's going to be switched on tonight
:)

Glasgow is Langley, not Bromley as mentioned by Paul11974.

paul11974 17-01-2005 21:04

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
Glasgow is Langley, not Bromley as mentioned by Paul11974.

will bromley not be rolled out tonight as well ? :dozey:

Neil 17-01-2005 21:07

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paul11974
will bromley not be rolled out tonight as well ? :dozey:

Don't think so-Glasgow is trialling it, so it's not a "roll out" as such.

[Edit]-Have you actually read through this thread Paul? :erm:

paul11974 17-01-2005 21:22

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
[Edit]-Have you actually read through this thread Paul? :erm:


:dozey: only bits and bobs cause my eyes hurt !

wir3d 17-01-2005 23:13

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
Don't think so-Glasgow is trialling it, so it's not a "roll out" as such.

[Edit]-Have you actually read through this thread Paul? :erm:

Glasgow is rolling out tonight for real. I should know, I'm stuck at work rolling the b**ger!

Neil 17-01-2005 23:15

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wir3d
Glasgow is rolling out tonight for real. I should know, I'm stuck at work rolling the b**ger!

So ntl are "rolling out" VOD for Glasgow in an official capacity?

Is it on their website for Glasgow customers to peruse?

Or is it still in trial phase? ;)

wir3d 17-01-2005 23:47

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
So ntl are "rolling out" VOD for Glasgow in an official capacity?

Is it on their website for Glasgow customers to peruse?

Or is it still in trial phase? ;)

Oh ye of little faith ...

ian@huth 18-01-2005 02:03

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wir3d
Oh ye of little faith ...

It's alright having faith, but how do customers in Glasgow know that VOD has arrived? Or, for that matter, what VOD is and how much it costs.

Derek 18-01-2005 05:07

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianathuth
It's alright having faith, but how do customers in Glasgow know that VOD has arrived? Or, for that matter, what VOD is and how much it costs.

Well if they press On Demand they get a new menu giving them prices etc. and how it works.

Assuming it doesn't all collapse in a heap they will get information about the new service through the door. (probably)

Stephen 18-01-2005 07:10

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
It should now be there for those in glasgow to use.

Neil 18-01-2005 08:18

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianathuth
It's alright having faith, but how do customers in Glasgow know that VOD has arrived? Or, for that matter, what VOD is and how much it costs.

Because ntl, being the complete communications company, will have proactively contacted all the customers concerned & informed them of the benefits of the service that they would soon be offering via VOD, that's how. :erm:

Yeah right!! :D

Escapee 18-01-2005 08:24

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
Because ntl, being the complete communications company, will have proactively contacted all the customers concerned & informed them of the benefits of the service that they would soon be offering via VOD, that's how. :erm:

Yeah right!! :D

I think they are afraid to raise hopes, and want to keep things low key until they can prove it works!

Neil 18-01-2005 08:35

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Escapee
I think they are afraid to raise hopes, and want to keep things low key until they can prove it works!

People can't moan about something if they don't know they've got it & that it doesn't work anyway!! :D

andrew_wallasey 18-01-2005 09:12

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Neil have you used it and know it doesnt work? If not, give it a rest.

Neil 18-01-2005 09:25

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew_wallasey
Neil have you used it and know it doesnt work? If not, give it a rest.

Hmmm-interesting comment coming frm the person who said about the Telewest PVR service....

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew_wallasey
There is a couple of working PVR boxes on Telewest, they are absolutely brilliant. The boxes can deal with multiple (4 I think) streams and it in general is a much better setup than sky+. The picture quality on Telewest is also must better as I personally dont think Amstrad boxes give good pic quality.

Then said....

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew_wallasey
I don't know I have been told by people who have also had Sky+

Then....

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew_wallasey
I am just going on what I have been told.


:rolleyes:

I have never made claims to know what ntl's VOD is like (unlike you & TW's "brilliant" PVR service)

Graham F 18-01-2005 09:55

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
To be fair Neil I think you should be supportive of ntl, as it is moving the company forward and hopefully giving the customer some decent services!!

Derek 18-01-2005 10:10

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
I would have to agree with GrahamF.

We know there is no love lost between yourself and Ntl and there are certainly upgrades that have gone wrong in the past but to write it off without even seeing it is a bit off IMO.

Neil 18-01-2005 10:20

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham F
To be fair Neil I think you should be supportive of ntl, as it is moving the company forward and hopefully giving the customer some decent services!!

I absolutely am supportive of it, & I think it's a genuinely good thing they are doing, however-it would appear that after all the 'hoo ha' that is VOD, it may well take a back set now due to the redundancy announcement......:rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by dezzo
I would have to agree with GrahamF.

We know there is no love lost between yourself and Ntl and there are certainly upgrades that have gone wrong in the past but to write it off without even seeing it is a bit off IMO.

I think you've gotten the wrong end of the stick somewhere m8.....:erm:

I haven't written it off at all, as I said above I think it's a good thing, & trialling it in one area (as opposed to thw whole country) is also a wise move IMO.

Not sure why you think I'm writing it off.....:shrug:

Graham F 18-01-2005 10:29

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
I absolutely am supportive of it, & I think it's a genuinely good thing they are doing, however-it would appear that after all the 'hoo ha' that is VOD, it may well take a back set now due to the redundancy announcement......:rolleyes:



I think you've gotten the wrong end of the stick somewhere m8.....:erm:

I haven't written it off at all, as I said above I think it's a good thing, & trialling it in one area (as opposed to thw whole country) is also a wise move IMO.

Not sure why you think I'm writing it off.....:shrug:


glad we got that sorted out....

So Neil :romance: :romance: :romance: ntl :p: :D

does anyone else have any more roll out dates for this?

Escapee 18-01-2005 10:36

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham F
glad we got that sorted out....

So Neil :romance: :romance: :romance: ntl :p: :D

does anyone else have any more roll out dates for this?


Wales is apparently going ahead as planned.

Manchester/Baguely was high on the list but is delayed indefinately.

Other areas are still being surveyed and planned but there will be no actual work done that costs capitol expenditure.

Perhaps someone here can confirm or deny this info coming out of ntl via the VOD team yesterday?

PS: I see no reason to disbelieve this info, my info last week about this weeks announcement was spot on! All I say is I am passing it on in good faith and dont expect to be shouted at if it did prove to be wrong.

Derek 18-01-2005 10:37

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
I think you've gotten the wrong end of the stick somewhere m8.....:erm:

Sorry I was quickly reading it and misread. :dunce:

Apologies

BBKing 18-01-2005 10:39

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Perhaps someone here can confirm or deny this info coming out of ntl via the VOD team yesterday?
I can confirm that Baguley is spelled 'Baguley'.

Escapee 18-01-2005 10:40

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BBKing
I can confirm that Baguley is spelled 'Baguley'.

A minor point but somewhat avoiding the issue...... thats ntl! :D

andrew_wallasey 18-01-2005 10:44

Re: [Merged] VOD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
Hmmm-interesting comment coming frm the person who said about the Telewest PVR service....

I have never made claims to know what ntl's VOD is like (unlike you & TW's "brilliant" PVR service)

I made claims about the PVR service on the say so of some people (friends) I know working for Telewest over in Liverpool.

What rubbish, you have made claims and I quote
Quote:

People can't moan about something if they don't know they've got it & that it doesn't work anyway!!
At least my comments on Telewests PRV were not completely unfounded.
____________

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
I absolutely am supportive of it, & I think it's a genuinely good thing they are doing, however-it would appear that after all the 'hoo ha' that is VOD, it may well take a back set now due to the redundancy announcement......:rolleyes:



I think you've gotten the wrong end of the stick somewhere m8.....:erm:

I haven't written it off at all, as I said above I think it's a good thing, & trialling it in one area (as opposed to thw whole country) is also a wise move IMO.

Not sure why you think I'm writing it off.....:shrug:

I suggest you read back what you wrote :erm:

Neil 18-01-2005 10:58

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Originally Posted by andrew_wallasey
I made claims about the PVR service on the say so of some people (friends) I know working for Telewest over in Liverpool.

No-what you said was....

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Originally Posted by andrew_wallasey
There is a couple of working PVR boxes on Telewest, they are absolutely brilliant. The boxes can deal with multiple (4 I think) streams and it in general is a much better setup than sky+. The picture quality on Telewest is also must better as I personally dont think Amstrad boxes give good pic quality.

You didn't mention (until I questioned you on what evidence you had to support your post), when you then said....

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Originally Posted by andrew_wallasey
I don't know I have been told by people who have also had Sky+

Which is very different from your opening comments of "There is a couple of working PVR boxes on Telewest, they are absolutely brilliant" I think you'll agree.

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Originally Posted by andrew_wallasey
What rubbish, you have made claims and I quote At least my comments on Telewests PRV were not completely unfounded.

Yeah ok, whatever.
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Originally Posted by andrew_wallasey
I suggest you read back what you wrote :erm:

I don't need to, what I said was tongue in cheek, why don't you re-read it? ;)
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Anyway-back on topic...........:)

sherer 18-01-2005 10:59

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getting back OT here some screen shots from digital spy

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/screen.p...=1&type=ntlvod

andrew_wallasey 18-01-2005 11:15

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Originally Posted by Neil
You didn't mention (until I questioned you on what evidence you had to support your post), when you then said....

Which is very different from your opening comments of "There is a couple of working PVR boxes on Telewest, they are absolutely brilliant" I think you'll agree.

I would like you to explain to me how is it any different? I never said I had one of the working boxes, all I said was "there is a couple of working PVR boxes".

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I don't need to, what I said was tongue in cheek, why don't you re-read it? ;)
Ok I have read it .... People can't moan about something if they don't know they've got it & that it doesn't work anyway!!

I thought you had gone away from your old way of just slagging ntl for the sake of it. You would not think you were 36 years old the way you act, you like a spoilt child who doesnt get his own way.
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Graham F 18-01-2005 11:23

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Originally Posted by andrew_wallasey
<snip

:notopic: :notopic: :redcard: :redcard:

what is it with people trying to score points all the time!!

Some more :hugs: are needed and lets talk abt this greta new product of ntl's

a request, not a demand :D

andrew_wallasey 18-01-2005 11:28

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Originally Posted by Graham F
:notopic: :notopic: :redcard: :redcard:

what is it with people trying to score points all the time!!

Some more :hugs: are needed and lets talk abt this greta new product of ntl's

a request, not a demand :D

I don't see you giving off topic to Neil when he replied do I.

You day about people trying to score points all the time, I suggest you look in the mirror and read what you just said.

ian@huth 18-01-2005 11:28

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Originally Posted by dezzo
Well if they press On Demand they get a new menu giving them prices etc. and how it works.

Assuming it doesn't all collapse in a heap they will get information about the new service through the door. (probably)

I posed the question because nobody had posted that they had recieved information from NTL regarding VOD. How likely is it that anyone would press the "On Demand" button if they didn't know anything about VOD. I would imagine that customers try out every button on the remote when they first get cable DTV and if nothing happens when they press a particular button they are unlikely to press it again. I can see that someone in NTL will be rubbing their hands with glee in a weeks time when they have looked at the first week of VOD and there has been no problems reported when using it. Will that problem free week be because there are no problems or because nobody knows about it and has tried using it?

Neil 18-01-2005 11:36

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Originally Posted by andrew_wallasey
You day about people trying to score points all the time, I suggest you look in the mirror and read what you just said.

Is this what you see whan you look in the mirror.....?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/parenting/image...ng_closeup.jpg



Here you go then....



http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/DGV/DGV310/378012.jpg

Now do us all a favour & stop whining like a baby girl, & join in with some decent adult discussion.

Thanks. :)
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Originally Posted by ianathuth
I posed the question because nobody had posted that they had recieved information from NTL regarding VOD. How likely is it that anyone would press the "On Demand" button if they didn't know anything about VOD. I would imagine that customers try out every button on the remote when they first get cable DTV and if nothing happens when they press a particular button they are unlikely to press it again. I can see that someone in NTL will be rubbing their hands with glee in a weeks time when they have looked at the first week of VOD and there has been no problems reported when using it. Will that problem free week be because there are no problems or because nobody knows about it and has tried using it?

A good point, & one I was trying to make earlier. :tu:

bigitup_j 18-01-2005 11:38

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ok. everyone be nice :rolleyes:

Telewest have now roll-out their VOD service in the Bristol area
LINK:
http://ir.telewest.co.uk/phoenix.zht...lar&id=663415&

telewest are definately working together with ntl, using the same film company (filmflex) and it launches on the same day
:)

andrew_wallasey 18-01-2005 11:40

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Originally Posted by Neil
Is this what you see whan you look in the mirror.....?
Here you go....

Now do us all a favour & stop whining like a baby girl, & join in with some decent adult discussion.

Thanks. :)

You make me laugh!! Its a shame you think that way, I know people who worked with you at NTL and have all called you a ******.

People might disagree with what I say about you but I think its just pathetic. Still moaning every single end and turn about ntl, I think you are the one who needs the dummy not me.

I think this comment is just about right for you.

When one door closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door, that we do not see the one which has opened for us.
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Originally Posted by bigitup_j
ok. everyone be nice :rolleyes:

Telewest have now roll-out their VOD service in the Bristol area
LINK:
http://ir.telewest.co.uk/phoenix.zht...lar&id=663415&

telewest are definately working together with ntl, using the same film company (filmflex) and it launches on the same day
:)

Looks good.

Graham F 18-01-2005 11:40

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they will mail people now the service is working at a guess :shrug:

Mick 18-01-2005 11:46

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Originally Posted by andrew_wallasey
You make me laugh!! Its a shame you think that way, I know people who worked with you at NTL and have all called you a ******

Well I don't know who have been speaking to but Neil has never worked at ntl. ;)

In anycase can we avoid getting personal and try to get back to the topic. Many thanks.

Derek 18-01-2005 11:46

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Originally Posted by ianathuth
How likely is it that anyone would press the "On Demand" button if they didn't know anything about VOD.

Well anyone browsing through the channels will now see an extra two channels for the On-Demand service and be able to access it that way.

andrew_wallasey 18-01-2005 11:50

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Originally Posted by Mick
Well I don't know who have been speaking to but Neil has never worked at ntl. ;)

In anycase can we avoid getting personal and try to get back the topic. Many thanks.

He might not have been directely employed by them but he had a working relationship of sorts with them.

Mick 18-01-2005 11:54

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Originally Posted by andrew_wallasey
He might not have been directely employed by them but he had a working relationship of sorts with them.

When I made the request to get back on topic, I meant it. :mad:

ian@huth 18-01-2005 11:55

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Originally Posted by dezzo
Well anyone browsing through the channels will now see an extra two channels for the On-Demand service and be able to access it that way.

That's OK if the customers actually browse through the channels and if they haven't re-ordered them so they only browse through the channels that interest them. I tend to browse through DigiGuide rather than the TV and select what I want to view from there.

orangebird 18-01-2005 11:58

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I think it's very foolish to assume that ntl hasn't communicated to those customers involved in VOD, just because no-one in glasgow has posted anything about the VOD on here. I hate to break the bad news, but this site is not the Mecca for all ntl: Home customers.... :erm:

Derek 18-01-2005 11:58

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Originally Posted by ianathuth
That's OK if the customers actually browse through the channels and if they haven't re-ordered them so they only browse through the channels that interest them. I tend to browse through DigiGuide rather than the TV and select what I want to view from there.

If they don't browse through them they'll have to sit and be patient for a little while till they get the literature that will be sent out about it.

Neil 18-01-2005 12:04

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Originally Posted by orangebird
I think it's very foolish to assume that ntl hasn't communicated to those customers involved in VOD just because no-one in glasgow has posted anything about the VOD on here.

Why? ntl are well known for having a pitiful amount of communication with their staff & customers, so I don't think it's foolish at all given their track record. :angel:

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Originally Posted by orangebird
I hate to break the bad news, but this site is not the Mecca for all ntl: Home customers.... :erm:

Fair point, but going on ntl's near non existant communication with their customers in the past, it wouldn't be fair to bet they have done little/no comms in this instance. :)

Currie 18-01-2005 13:03

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Hi folks it`s here and it works :)

Graham F 18-01-2005 13:11

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:welcome: to the site

have you used it as in purchased anything from it yet?


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