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TheBlueRaja 13-01-2005 20:08

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Well, the probe "lands" on Titan tomorrow - i wonder what they will find there as nobody seems to know, they dotn even know if it will land on a surface or in some goo.

Im betting on a B1 Bomber but you never know - it might just be where teletubbies live.

Anyhoo - joking aside - assuming it dosent all go wrong on the way down, which lets fact it is pretty probable, it should be pretty interesting dont you think?

trebor 13-01-2005 20:48

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I was going to try and find it tonight, but it cloudy. so the nasa site will have to do.
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.cfm

Russ 13-01-2005 20:50

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Originally Posted by theblueraja
Anyhoo - joking aside - assuming it dosent all go wrong on the way down, which lets fact it is pretty probable, it should be pretty interesting dont you think?

Do you really want me to answer that?? :D

Shaun 13-01-2005 21:25

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Yes

Russ 14-01-2005 01:07

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Ok then - I'd rather watch paint dry.....

AndrewJ 14-01-2005 01:32

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LOL I have signed up to hear when it is going on, sorry if everyone aint interested, but I am :p:

homealone 14-01-2005 07:33

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Originally Posted by trebor
I was going to try and find it tonight, but it cloudy. so the nasa site will have to do.
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.cfm

have that loaded up, just now, waiting for any images - if anything gets back It will be a fantastic achievement, I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't be inspired by it ;)

AndrewJ 14-01-2005 07:48

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Well there loss eh, I am eager to know if all went well.

Attached is a image of Pluto..one of the most amazing images I have seen considering the immense distance between it and Earth.

Ramrod 14-01-2005 08:34

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BBC news 24 said that the BBC will be showing images of Titan at 11:30 pm tonight (iirc)

AndrewJ 14-01-2005 08:49

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best of luck for the guys/gals who have worked hard for this project, hope it works for them and we get some amazing images back from Titan.

edit: ever notice they never use windows to pilot these things...tell ya Nasa have it sussed... they know things.. ;)

Shaun 14-01-2005 08:57

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Good luck to the OU/ESA, lets just hope it doesn't got the same way as Beagle. :erm:

Some interesting stuff on their website, and some videos:

http://pssri.open.ac.uk/missions/mis-cas.htm

Edit - Oh and Russ, how can you not be impressed/inspired?

trebor 14-01-2005 09:28

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Originally Posted by AndrewJames
Well there loss eh, I am eager to know if all went well.

Attached is a image of Pluto..one of the most amazing images I have seen considering the immense distance between it and Earth.

I wish I could take pictures like that, but then I haven't got a billion pound budget.

another link for live info (maybe)
http://esa.capcave.com/esa/cassinihuygens/

Aragorn 14-01-2005 10:09

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What gets me is - the BBC interviewed one of the scientists who has been involved with Cassini-Huygens for 15 years. All that could be wasted in the next 12 hours :shocked: I can't imagine the pressure that creates!

AndrewJ 14-01-2005 10:11

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Imaigine the team planning the first man on mars for 2020. :dozey:

No doubt this is immense but that will be collosol.

best of luck and plenty of scotch there I bet.

AndrewJ 14-01-2005 10:15

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Call me a dreamer but dont some of you hope for the day we can move to these planets and visit?? and be back on Earth for supper.??

Is this technology really so far ahead of us?? or is it money which stops us :erm:

Chris 14-01-2005 10:22

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Originally Posted by AndrewJames
Call me a dreamer but dont some of you hope for the day we can move to these planets and visit?? and be back on Earth for supper.??

Is this technology really so far ahead of us?? or is it money which stops us :erm:

We could visit the entire solar system - there are technical obstacles which could be overcome, but with a *lot* of money. So much money, it wouldn't be fair to complain about lack of political will.

We could visit the rest of the galaxy if half the guff spouted on good old Star Trek had any more than a grain of science behind it. I don't expect someone to invent a warp drive any time soon no matter how much money they might spend trying. Interstellar jaunts are going to remain a dream for a very long time yet.

AndrewJ 14-01-2005 10:31

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the theory behind the warp drive engine is one used by many scientists who are playing with designs and chemical and other gynetics and long worded stuff who think it is possible, but no one will leave about 566 billion quid onto it.

dilli-theclaw 14-01-2005 10:36

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Originally Posted by AndrewJames
the theory behind the warp drive engine is one used by many scientists who are playing with designs and chemical and other gynetics and long worded stuff who think it is possible, but no one will leave about 566 billion quid onto it.

Then you've got to invent an Inertial Dampng Field to stop the people being squished. :)

I think all this type of technology will eventually come to pass, but not any time soon.

AndrewJ 14-01-2005 10:38

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The extreme magentic force of the engines, and the tear form in the space continum, would be able to provide a polorisation of the inner hull shell to create the dampening field.

As the fusion engines would be the power source of the entire craft, it would be ample, a team would be required to make sure the reaction process is stable at all times and sufficent cooling, but I think with modern metals we have the technology to have a shot perhaps at this.

Just who is brave enough?



(okay I am talking stuff i shouldnt )

TheBlueRaja 14-01-2005 10:56

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From http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/obj...objectid=36367

10:30
Greenbank 110 m telescope confirms signal from Huygens probe.
Signal indicates that the probe has survived the entry phase and that the instrument payload is active.

homealone 14-01-2005 11:04

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Originally Posted by theblueraja
From http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/obj...objectid=36367

10:30
Greenbank 110 m telescope confirms signal from Huygens probe.
Signal indicates that the probe has survived the entry phase and that the instrument payload is active.

good news :tu:

Quote:

If all goes well, it will be the furthest from Earth a spacecraft has been landed.
- taken from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4171945.stm

- awesome ;)

AndrewJ 14-01-2005 11:15

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Amazing acheivment we should be proud we have people with the skills to pull such a stunt off.

To think though that in 50years we could pop to Titan, and have lunch while in orbit, and come home to go pub.

Russ 14-01-2005 11:44

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Originally Posted by dellwear
Good luck to the OU/ESA, lets just hope it doesn't got the same way as Beagle. :erm:

Some interesting stuff on their website, and some videos:

http://pssri.open.ac.uk/missions/mis-cas.htm

Edit - Oh and Russ, how can you not be impressed/inspired?

Because I'd rather we concentrate on our own planet.

AndrewJ 14-01-2005 11:52

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To know our own planet we need to explore others, we have not seen this planet grow up.

We need to see others learn more explore, find new facts about our planets youth, before we can say for certain what to and what not to do with Earth.

Russ 14-01-2005 11:55

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Originally Posted by AndrewJames
To know our own planet we need to explore others, we have not seen this planet grow up.

Why?

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Originally Posted by AndrewJames
We need to see others learn more explore, find new facts about our planets youth, before we can say for certain what to and what not to do with Earth.

Why? I think we know enough of what not to do here.

Nugget 14-01-2005 11:55

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Now I don't want to worry anybody, but the first images are coming through now :Yikes:

AndrewJ 14-01-2005 12:05

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Originally Posted by Russ D
Why?



Why? I think we know enough of what not to do here.

Do we?

Daily now we make new discoveries about our planet, today in news about dimming of the sun due to global warming, which has just been discovered, this could mean reduced sun light, and interupting the natural cycle of rain fall, hence drought and famine. For us to find this out about our Earth, we have had to go into space and develop and learn and see what moves out planet, we have learnt alot about our outer atmosphere, cloud density, storm behaviour and a bunch of other stuff, due to having space station, and people who go up there to do a good job for us down here, we wont find all the answers in space, but I am sure we will find enough to answer a few questions.

It is space which could bring us more life on earth, thanks to the discovery of certain forms of rays and radiation from the sun hitting Earth, again affecting weather and other forms of sea life, and the food/water chain, we have learnt possible one thing to do would be to construct large mirrors around Earth to bounce back certain forms of deadly rays.

Long sounding, far fetched but one way or the other we will go out there and explore.

Perhaps exploring will make us appreicate Earth all the more.

TheBlueRaja 14-01-2005 12:18

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Originally Posted by Nugget
Now I don't want to worry anybody, but the first images are coming through now :Yikes:

The Rebel **** will soon be defeated!

Russ 14-01-2005 12:28

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Originally Posted by AndrewJames
Do we?

Daily now we make new discoveries about our planet, today in news about dimming of the sun due to global warming, which has just been discovered, this could mean reduced sun light, and interupting the natural cycle of rain fall, hence drought and famine. For us to find this out about our Earth, we have had to go into space and develop and learn and see what moves out planet, we have learnt alot about our outer atmosphere, cloud density, storm behaviour and a bunch of other stuff, due to having space station, and people who go up there to do a good job for us down here, we wont find all the answers in space, but I am sure we will find enough to answer a few questions.

It is space which could bring us more life on earth, thanks to the discovery of certain forms of rays and radiation from the sun hitting Earth, again affecting weather and other forms of sea life, and the food/water chain, we have learnt possible one thing to do would be to construct large mirrors around Earth to bounce back certain forms of deadly rays.

Long sounding, far fetched but one way or the other we will go out there and explore.

Perhaps exploring will make us appreicate Earth all the more.

If the current climate is due to global warming, it can be deal with through other methods instead of travelling to other planets and moons.

Electrolyte01 14-01-2005 13:01

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Originally Posted by Russ D
Why? I think we know enough of what not to do here.

What most scientists do, to find the truth, why we are here, are we alone (and I could go on).

Graham 14-01-2005 13:59

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Originally Posted by AndrewJames
Is this technology really so far ahead of us?? or is it money which stops us :erm:

No, it's just the lack of Unobtainium...! :D

AndrewJ 14-01-2005 14:18

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:tu: Scott

TheBlueRaja 14-01-2005 17:11

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ESA PR 03-2005. Today, after its seven-year journey through the Solar System on board the Cassini spacecraft, ESAââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s Huygens probe has successfully descended through the atmosphere of Titan, Saturnââ‚Ãâ €šÂ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s largest moon, and safely landed on its surface.

The first scientific data arrived at the European Space Operations Centre (ESOC) in Darmstadt, Germany, this afternoon at 17:19 CET. Huygens is mankindââ‚à ‚¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s first successful attempt to land a probe on another a world in the outer Solar System. †œThis is a great achievement for Europe and its US partners in this ambitious international endeavour to explore the Saturnian system,ââ‚à ‚¬Ã‚ said Jean-Jacques Dordain, ESAââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s Director General.
More here...

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Cassini-...1QQ3K3E_0.html

Maggy 14-01-2005 18:31

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Originally Posted by Russ D
If the current climate is due to global warming, it can be deal with through other methods instead of travelling to other planets and moons.

There are still arguments about that Russ.The fact is we DON'T know everything about this planet yet.We don't have enough recorded information on this planet to know what is happening is exactly what is supposed to happen.We haven't had the means to record holes in the ozone layer for longer than 30 years.It may be that in 100 years or more we may find that what is happening is part of an ongoing cycle of this planet.


I'm with Douglas Adams.I want to know about Life,the Universe and Everything.I don't want to gaze at mud,I want to see the horizon and beyond that the stars.I want my children and my children's children to have the same choices.To have dreams bigger than the world they inhabit.

Coggy. :)


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