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When will the 3meg upgrade be available to the masses?
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Sometime this year .... is meant to be Q1 but who knows.
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:welcome: to the forums uni. There has been plenty posted about the new speeds if you look around. Someone will post details of when it is available as soon as it is known. |
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Blimey I've only just got my 750k upgrade...so it will probably be sometime in 2009 for me!
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Just wondering. Was gonna try Uk Online and 8meg but can't get it in my area :confused: only 1 meg available.
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kids today, bah! they don't know they've been born... I was one of the fortunate few with a 64k leased line in the days before BB.. it cost my dad over £5000 a year!
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Talking of upgrades, anyone know where I can check if I've been upgraded as yet as the link is no longer on the NTL site.
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Have you tried a modem reboot as I believe in some rare cases the upgrade has been done but requied a modem reboot?
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has anybody been able to upgrade to the new speed levels yet for the 25 quid offer
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i had a 9600 baud rate and a £600 a quarter bill :-p fun times on
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I'm so glad i was born recently :D
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Looking back at the comms portion of my phone and Compuserve bill makes the broadband subscription cheap! Ken |
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I first got a 300 baud modem in about 1990.
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You mean to say you waited 28 years!!! 300 Baud modem was invented in 1962 |
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Is this OK ? I was on 150k but I presume I've been upgraded to 300K now:
Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:21:11 GMT 1st 128K took 3790 ms = 34584 Bytes/sec = approx 288 kbits/sec 2nd 128K took 3680 ms = 35617 Bytes/sec = approx 296 kbits/sec 3rd 128K took 3680 ms = 35617 Bytes/sec = approx 296 kbits/sec 4th 128K took 9500 ms = 13797 Bytes/sec = approx 115 kbits/sec |
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It does kind of show people would be willing to pay the extra needed for an uncapped service. I used to pay a fortune on my modem, but I've tried to block that from memory :D
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http://forums.xbox.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=11313636 The speed increases are happening now and he has confirmed that the caps are not hard? BS? -- rmg. |
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Having read that whole thread, i'm not sure how kosher the information is.
He gave someone a 5% discount for 12 months, because they had crap speedss for a while? Surely that kind of deal would have to go through a few different departments? He seems to know his stuff, and people are backing him up, when he says he's done something to fix someone's connnection, but i'm not sure, might be a scam, he's getting a lot of addresses and surnames... |
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i just had an intresting conn - think its rubbish but we will see
just got off the phone from NTL and was informed the upgrades are free but wont be happening until mar - LOL :p: does anyone believe this? i mereley post the the humor value - unless its true and in that case i apologise. |
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He seems legit. But who could he be if he says he isn't cs and knows this kind of stuff and be able to do all those things?
And anyway, is the before the end of January speculation, or have we got ourselves a leaky insider :scratch: I say we milk all the info possible from him :D |
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he's also claiming to be able to fix peoples connections etc. Resetting modems, then even told one guy that he'd sorted a 5% discount for the next 12 months, on his account, becuase of slow speeds he'd had.
All sounds too good to be true. The stuff he knows only becomes important, if it's true, we have no way of telling if it is or not. So he might just be some 14 year old collecting post codes. :erm: |
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and if he can give discounts to people then he must work in customer service or retentions or similar... and therefore probably won't be fixing people's connection problems ;) |
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can anyone else smell that funny smell floating around this thread :Yikes: :D :D |
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Even stranger how he says people have been upgraded, If its like the one just gone its done ubr by ubr (Isnt it? :P) And so he could say where has been done (like the first lot last time was up near manchester wasnt it?), Ive got no evidence to disbelieve him, but theres not much to back it up either. Quote:
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FYI That dude is talking out of his @rse and I'd strongly suggest that no-one gives him any information of any kind.
384kbps upstream is impossible on the network, regardless of 'tweaking' done by friends, there's no 384k upstream profile on a uBR anywhere. There are no customers presently upgraded. All usage would count towards the limit, I know of no exemption for X-Box Live. No-one can fix a connection then give a discount to someone then quote sales codes. More BS. Connection 'fixing' where the problem isn't on customer's PC is done by an onsite engineer or ntl networks, the people who manage the uBRs, not ntl:home sales/tech support/customer services/retentions/ whatever this guy seems to think he is. He's simply talking out of his backside throughout. |
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Hi all, new member here. :)
I heard about the speed increase a month or two ago. I had to phone ntl tonight about an ongoing problem we've had with the DTV freezing all the time when going into interactive, and the EPG not having any info on it very often (getting a site visit on Monday). While I was on the phone I asked about the speed increase. The girl on the phone said she didn't know anything about Broadband and gave me a number to phone broadband support. I phoned them up and spoke to a guy, asking him when the upgrade would be, and if we had to register for it, or would it happen automatically. He didn't know anything about it (or was playing the innocent). He asked where I'd heard about it, and told him it was all over the net on various forums I visit. I told him what the increases were going to be, but he still reckoned it was new to him. He went off the phone to speak to someone, while he was away I remembered I'd seen an article on The Register about it. So when he came back on the phone I gave him the url. He said they'd heard nothing about it, and to keep checking the ntlworld website for an announcement when it was official. Although that was a bit confusing, as it was the top man who'd made the announcement in November, so you can't get much more official than that I guess. I'll be complaining if they try to charge a £25 upgrade fee though. They give new customers plenty of offers (half price for first 3 months and such like), how about looking after existing customers. I've been with them 6yrs now, and spend nearly £1000 a year with them, I'm sure they could waive the fee. Especially as my STB doesn't need upgrading to a Samsung for the upgrade (although I've asked if they can to cure the TV faults, but the woman said it still has faults too), as I have a seperate cable modem, so it's just a case of someone ramping the speed up their end. We'll have to see if they make 'an announcement', they must be having loads of people phoning up asking about it. Apparently Telewest has already done their upgrades (or are in the process of rolling it out). |
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I have replied in that forum to that steaming pile of BS that guy was telling.
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Nice call, Ig. I bet he doesn't make any more claims of that nature again :D
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I seriously lack a sense of humour when I see stuff like this. Makes ntl look bad, annoys paying customers when they don't get what they think the company has promised them, and generates more work for 'real' employees answering calls as to why they aren't getting what 'so and so' on a forum told them they would be getting.
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Its a shame there is not a bovine excreta award :) that guy would win it hands down. :LOL:
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If ntl got their act together and told people in time, it wouldn't leave customers needing to check forums to find information out. ;)
But that guy was up to something more seedy, he was taking surnames and post codes, he could use that information for a whole host of things, i wish people would be a little bit more cautious, no doubt the people saying it worked, were in on the deal, and he's making money out of their addresses. |
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I am in favour of capping and thought I'd made that quite clear in previous posts here.
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For what it's worth I have an idea about a number of things to do with the speed increases, none of which I have revealed publicly due to the non-disclosure agreement I have. I will settle at shooting down the BS misinformation, I am not permitted to supply any extra information, sorry. |
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My my, icanadvise, long time no chat - where the devil have you been lately? I hope you have not crawled out of the woodwork to cause trouble by misquoting peeps. ;) Or I-can-advise you to crawl back. :)
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Nothing in black and white then I assume ;). Only wanted to know when :disturbd:
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I find this very unusual for me to agree with Ignition but even from my knowledge of the NTL network and systems.
I must agree with Ignition and Bill C because the information posted seems complete bull and does not tie up with anything logical. |
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Blimey, I appear to have started a war :Yikes:
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I hope he does, he's clearly leading people on, offering them something he can't possibly give. And he's building peoples hopes up with lies. I hope he gets the sack.
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Sorry for intruding here with a question :)
When we pay the £25 for the upgrade, if there is then a problem with our service being worse than it was (as I believe happened to some during the last speed upgrade), will it be a case of "wait for the fix" or can we claim the £25 back and return to our origional speed? Just wondering out loud, please don't shout at me :D PS. the cap doesn't worry me :tu: |
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25 quid extra just to add a little bit of speed onto the existing speed, comon that has to be a joke right, 25 quid for not moving there butts to install a new piece of equipment, well forget that.
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300K goes to 1MB 750K goes to 2MB 1.5MB goes to 3MB I hardly call that "little". |
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Thing is you were right really. I won't be happy about paying it either. I consider I've paid my dues over the years in supporting their service as they've built on it...paid plenty on pay by the minute, when ntlworld was only dial-up etc. I've taken all their new services as they've come out...switched my internet to their dial-up originally, then took broadband. Took the analogue TV, then digital.
I pay them nearly £1000 for my services, and yet we get little back. They offer new customers discounts left right and centre. Half price for 3 months, free line rental for a year and similar. How about looking after their existing, loyal customers? I can understand the fee maybe, for customers needing a hardware upgrade ie: if you need your set top box upgrading if you access the internet using it. But customers with a stand alone cable modem won't need a 'visit', just someone upping the speed at ntls' end. So why the fee for us? They've had other increases and never charged for it...500k to 600k, 600k to 750k. The upload speed isn't that good only being upped to 256k from 128k considering the advertise braodband for gaming, get your Playstation online etc. And the increases may be substantial compared to what we're used to, but only because the UK market has been held back all these years. Other countries wouldn't even consider what we've been calling broadband up to now to be true broadband, it's so slow (compared to them). If you look at other countries, even our coming 2 and 3mbit connections will still be way slower than they're getting for similar money. I'm grateful for the increase yes, but also aware it could have been done much earlier probably. It's the old marketing trick, hold some of the cake back, then give them it later on a bit at a time, so they think you're giving them added value, when really, you could have given the full cake in one go. |
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It is true, I called ntl today and they told me the speed increase will take place very soon (if not already started in some places), they said its free of charge unless ya need a new model modem which there will be a one off minimal fee.
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Thousandth post! Shame it won't be a pleasant one.
That's nonsense, one day people will actually believe me, I work with the people who write the config files and for the last time The speed upgrades haven't started yet, there is no testing in progress, the upload speeds listed are incorrect, that guy is dealing at best with rumours and no facts, if he were actually in a position to know what was going on he wouldn't be talking about it!!! |
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Listen mate, I dont give a toss about what some guy says, iam telling you I heard it straight from the horses mouth, ive even got the guys name in ntl hq who told me.
I dunno why your getting your feathers ruffled, just wait and see, wont be long now and as I said, certain places in the uk have already been upgraded or at least just about to be starting to upgrade, but the guy says for sure in the first quarter of 2005 which on leaves us with feb and march. I cant see why every person on the phone in ntl's office would want to tell lie's about a silly thing like this, know what I mean ??? The last times a few months back when the older upgrades took place, I done the same thing, I called ntl up and simply asked "when and what are these upgrades all about" and I was told they would take place on such and such a date, and sure as anything, hey presto !! they did upgrade. Soooo, I have no reason what so ever to NOT believe the people on the end of the phone who work in the office who sell the stuff too us ;) Anyway, all we can do is wait, your obviously getting your info from different source's from me. |
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Yup I'm making the mistake of talking to the people who are actually doing the work rather than the people who are paid to sell it to you. I certainly hope that they aren't giving out this information though!
Gee who do I trust more on technical projects, salesmen or engineers. :scratch: Kinda struggling to think who at Corporate HQ would be speaking to customers about the upgrade project actually as well. |
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no disrespect but trust who you want, i couldnt care less:erm: .
If I find that ntl have been lying to me on the phone (which i doubt), I will first of all make a complaint to trading standards and then come back on here and tell you guys whats going on. |
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I'm finding you increasingly hard to take seriously. Considering this is your first posts and you instantly come out with that stuff I really can't take anything you are saying seriously, and I really hope that none of the members here are either.
I'd rather not be dealing with people who are disappointed at not being upgraded because some bloke on a forum told them they would be. Just to emphasise again for the confused no official rollout of the tier uplift has begun in any way shape or form at this time. It's 'coming soon' :) |
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Alternatively insist that NTL record the conversation and send you an unaltered copy (as if :) ) |
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Yeah but the 64k speed makes 1mb with xbox live almost unusable...
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Yes, but surely if ntl offer an xbox service on the the middle tier they will expect you on that, with the 128k ul?
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My only question (and i have searched) is will my Terrajet SACM in original NTL(Belfast) require changing 'when' the speed upgrades occur?
AS for the rest, well yes its a good point to say why are we paying £25 for this considering what we pay on a monthly basis (yes thru choice). But this is NTL not Telewest (and they're not the same yet), and although i'll admit to bein the teensiest bit jealous of the Twest customers i'm afraid we are with a company who have had to take major and drastic steps just to remain solvent and its a good bet they're far from good yet. But here they are still going, stil moving forward, bringing online the kind of services that show the full potential of cable and about to become one of the biggest providers in the country. i don't want BT and i don't want Sky (if they would only get rid of the need for the dish i'd use them, but then they'd be cable!), so this is my choice. And i'd be grateful if someone would answer the question at the top before i put my penneth worth in. |
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- do those products have such a low upload speed? |
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Cheers for that, but the capable bit are u just hedgin ur bets until corrected;).
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No, just wanted to make sure no-one started a rumour that speeds were going to be increased to that level! :D
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I was speaking to someone in Broandband Tech Support on Friday tea-time at the speed upgrade, as I wondered if you had to register for it, or whether it would happen automatically. He reckoned he didn't know what I was talking about (might have been pretending they didn't know to keep things hush-hush for now). I told him about the speed increases quoted etc and he went off and asked someone. While he was away I remembered the article I'd read on The Register quoting Simon Duffy, the NTL Chief Exec. When he came back on the phone he reckoned no-one there knew anything about it, so I gave him the address of the webpage (click The Register link above), to show him. He didn't have an answer, just saying to keep watching the ntlworld website for news. But the announcement has been made already, so I don't know why they'd deny it. ____________ Sorry, that link was to the announcement of the new download speeds, it doesn't mention the upload speed. I've seen it somewhere else, but can't remember at the moment. |
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Actually, you've hit upon something here. As speeds get faster, more and more strain is going to be put on USB connections. The more data that flows through the USB port, the more work the processor has to do. If it can't keep up, then the data connection is going to slow down. It won't be long I think before NTL start saying that ethernet is *required* for connections above a certain level (and this probably isn't a bad thing). |
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What makes you think we don't have to do that now? :D
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What happens to those of us who decide not to have the upgraded speeds? are we likely to lose our connections totally in the future? if ntl decide they will no longer support the usb connections are they going to supply the ethernet thingies (sorry I dunno what to call them) to replace them?
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2. Remember that 'anything plugged into a usb port is using up your processors computing power as it has to preform any conversion required to get the signals to the correct device. 3 The days of 'NIC only' for any cable provider are 'maybe' far into the future and your current computer will be either long outdated or a manufacturer will come up with USB X capable of handling the speeds required |
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ntl just need to start to supply modems that support usb2... |
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BTW, when saying that some bloke from NTL told you on the phone , bear in mind that Customer Service Reps have been known to say a few things that have not turned out to be true.. Not saying anyone here is a liar BTW (So Debsy and orangebird please put those knives away). ____________ Quote:
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480Mbps pah. Try 1000Mbps for size. |
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Having experienced the problems even 2.8Ghz processors can have with USB modems (ADSL in this case), I would tend to disagree. |
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but anyway thats a whole diffrerent matter.... i hope the speed increse happens soon and i hope its free! |
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This motherboard is useful as it has two onboard nics, a gige and a normal 10/100 one. Unfortunately the nearest available gige is in our data centre in Langley ;)
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Cable Forum has received information tonight (unofficial) that the following upload speeds will probably be applied to the new 1MB, 2MB and 3MB speed upgrade packages: 1MB = 100K 2MB = 200K 3MB = 300K Please be aware that as of yet this is unconfirmed information - however the source of the information appears reliable. Please keep an eye on this thread for further updates and information. |
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Hope so the extra would be nice :)
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[Waits for the 'it won't happen/it's not enough' mob] |
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It's not enough!!!!
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it won't happen ! ! ! ! :rolleyes:
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