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Hi folks;

I'm hearing unconfirmed reports that owners of "chipped" or "modded" STB's have lost service.

Can anyone confirm this?

Would really make my day if it were the case!

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where do these uncomfirmed reports come from , ppl that have chipped boxes :erm: :D :D :D :D

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From reading other sites it certainly seems that way. :)

Shame eh? Maybe now they can pay for the service like everyone else.

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:tu: to that :D

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This has happened before, but they were all back up and running the following day.

Hopefully it's more permenant this time.

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excellent news. and i hope those peeps with chipped boxes never get their service back (well, i suppose they'll soon find a way around it :rolleyes: )
:)

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It will at least put a dent into the people who don't actually know how it works and have got someone (dodgy installer, flyer, local market etc.) to put in a dodgy box. They will hopefully be forced into subscribing legitimately to the services rather than getting things changed again.

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What exactly is a 'modded' or 'chipped' box.I have a full subscription package and its down,when i called NTL they said there is a fault in parts of Northern Ireland.

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By the way is Sky Sports News a free channel.

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sky sports news comes with the family pack i think.

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Actually it comes with the basic pack. I have this and watch the Sky Sport News. :)

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It is a box that has been altered so that the user does not have to pay for the services. I don't think going into the details of how it is done is necessary but it is people, and some people feel it necessary to steal services from cable operators :rolleyes:

As you are paying your service, this news will not affect you, it is most likely a CATV problem in your area so your services should be back soon :)

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It is also available on Freeview.

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*Applause* Lets hope so, eh?

*Awaits a hundred 1st posters wondering what's wrong with their service* :D

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yeah its all true, all stbs chipped will show A008 messages and all but freeview unsubscribed..

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Good stuff - how come they haven't done anything like this before now?

Browneggsandham :)

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they have, just hasnt worked! the thing is, if the box is rechipped it gives the channels again, plus it plays havoc with the legit customers boxes when they do it

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well 10 people have been arrested in the NW about the theft of services
ie chipped box,s and they are contractors.

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:)

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Soundin good to me this is :D

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Hopefully means the idiot have to pay the price in the end. I hate people who have been stealing TV off NTL and have been speaking to their fraud dept in relation to ebay for some time.

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Is this just the digital services, I know someone who is quite proud :erm: of the fact that he has had chipped analogue services for over 3 years.

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******** no other name for him.

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I am not sure but I think he pays for the base pack but gets the sports etc via some dodgy means.:(

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Dont go over the top mate, expletives are not even used for the horrible little sods that set fire to a girls hair the other day, all he's doing is getting some TV Channels free.

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IMO its no different than downloading music, out there someone else is buying albums and i guarantee most people on this site download music regularly and buy the odd album, does that really difffer than paying for the base pack and gettin the rest free?

i dont have a chipped box btw, nor do i encourage it

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If you are implying that "most people on this site" are involved in illegal music downloads I think you are very much mistaken. :angel:

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really , have you been looking at my bandwidth usage ;) , no i think not , maybe it would be wise not to generalise so much ;) , btw , i dont recall :welcome: you to the site , enjoy your stay here :D

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Do you call the p2p users of this site hypocrites?;)

Very good point mate!:tu:

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Well seeing as only around 15 users of this site out of a membership of over 6,000 have posted in this thread I don't think it is a very good point at all.:td:

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Am I correct to say that you implying that 5985 users of this site

a) Do not care/mind if somebody uses chipped boxes
or
b) (god-forbid) they are fine with the use of chipped boxes or they are users themselves?
:rolleyes:
I know you are not saying that, so what are you trying to say?:angel:

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i care....and so does everyone else...why should all those chipped people pay cheap stuff when we pay full price...i hope they get charged and BACK PAID....they should pay for all services and front row movies they have since subscribing. Everyone should at least be fined

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From the post by mrjed,
" i guarantee most people on this site download music regularly"

he doesn't surmise, he can guarantee that most members of this forum illegally download music,
You seem to think this is a good point, whilst I think that statement is complete tosh, however I cannot guarantee that it is. :)

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i hope you can accept my humblist apologies for my sweeping generalising statement, maybe it was taken a bit out of context, as i dont know any of you guys

i just made an analogy between the 2 forms of illegal piracy of our modern age, I dont like people who steal digital, for many reasons id be happy to answer if you pm'd me, but then again i download music, its a moral dilemma i guess, what makes one form of piracy moderately acceptable, and the other totally unacceptable

another point, do you think the people who have been caught will get prosecuted? the answer is NO, what will happen is the box will be replaced and not a word said to them, is that fair?

answers on a postcard

but hey, im not out to make an argument or to generalise, i just made a badly written point :)

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Thats the problem with today's society, people assuming what everyone is going to do or is doing, or thinking.

Those people live in a black and white world where they cannot accept that there are variables in the world and everything will not always go to plan and because they do not go to plan they blame others, or they refuse to consider alternatives from others because it isn't written down in front of them and that they didn't think of it themselves.

Sorry for the hi-jack. :)

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i think its more the equality thing, people work hard for their money, and demand a quality service for their money, its a bit of a kick in the nuts when someone else is getting it for free, but good job on ntl for at least trying to stop fraud

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I'm feeling rather smug that these people have lost service. I pay over £90 a month to ntl for my services and was always ridiculed by colleagues and co-workers beacuse they had a chipped box.

Now I can point and laugh at my boss who recently bought a chipped box. Lovin' it.
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Why the applause?!

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So is it digital or analogue thats not supposed to work?

I bet that they have it figured out by now, doesnt usually take long.

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It was something very simple that was changed in the digital stream. Anyone "in the know" would have had the box back up & running in minutes. Anyone not "in the know" would have been on to the dodgy geezer they bought it from. :D

This has been happening in ex C&W areas since July. Only recently have Telewest & pure ntl regions joined in.

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So the Analogue chipped boxes r unaffected then r they?

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That something is being done to sort out this problem :)

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I dont think the changes mentioned above affected chipped analogue boxes, although the cable companies may be using other techniques to combat those.

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I will be honest this doesnt bother me, although I dont have a chipped box I know that by doing this it doesnt make anything better for anyone else it just gives NTL more porfit which I dont care about since I dont work for them.

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This discussion where people are talking about seeing things in black and white does raise a smile for me. It's OK to side up with ntl as a company as being in the right and the users of chipped boxes being in the wrong.

ntl used to use scramblers for their analogue service on some networks that were built in-house as a direct rip-off of the BDSE scrambler by Jerrold. I was involved in some of the latter design of this "Illegal" practice, where a Jerrold BDSE had parts of it's circuit copied so we could manufacture our own scramblers to work with the ACC2000/4000 and the 7000 series set-top box. I was involved in some of the design, but mainly came into the project late to upgrade the program tagging/identity to enable the unit to be used for PPV events. I have a full circuit diagram of these units, and if the original manufacturer had found out that ntl were using copies made in-house, I'm sure legal action would of followed.

Much of the Microwave link loss and path pfofile calculations for the WHAM trial were conducted with illegal software that I supplied to the ntl department running the project.

I'm just trying to say that ntl employees shouldn't get on their high horse about this, when the company uses illegal software and rips off other peoples products themselves. :rolleyes:

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I think if everyone who knows someone tha has a chipped box (and it sounds like alot of you do) let ntl know about them and if they start to get on top of the problem your bills may not be as much.

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Why?

Why would NTl reduce peoples bills just because we shop a few that are not paying?

No, it would just give NTL some more money (possibly).

I have spoken to the person that I know that knows someone who knows some mate down some pub & the analogue boxes are not affected & the digital ones are back on after a code change.

Ah well, back to watching Christmas TV on Sky for me..