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Paul K 19-11-2004 15:01

NTL reshapes it's homepage
 
NTL seems to be attempting to re-design the ntlworld.com site, I've just seen a post on another forum with these links on and a quoted email from a member of the trials group about a vote on the new design.
Here are the 3 designs on offer
http://www.ntlinteractive.com/ntlwor...01/home_01.jpg
http://www.ntlinteractive.com/ntlwor...02/home_01.jpg
http://www.ntlinteractive.com/ntlwor...03/home_01.jpg
So, do we like the new designs? Personally I'd rather they sorted out their support for customers and staff but if they want to jazz up the site a bit then fair enough ;)
Which design do you prefer??
BTW I've allowed multiple selections in the vote just to confuse things :p:

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=246152

Ramrod 19-11-2004 15:31

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Quote:

The page cannot be displayed
The page you are looking for might have been removed or had its name changed.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Please try the following:

Open the www.ntlinteractive.com home page, and then look for links to the information you want.

If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it is spelled correctly.

If you still cannot open the page, click the Internet Explorer
Search button to look for similar sites.
:shrug:

Chris W 19-11-2004 15:33

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working fine from here....

ikthius 19-11-2004 15:35

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personally I prefer 3.

but my order of preference would be:
3
2
1

ik

Steve H 19-11-2004 15:36

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Number one for me, seems the cleanest and easiest to navigate. Reminds me of the yahoo site :p

Paul K 19-11-2004 15:40

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Is it just me though or have they gone a bit tellytubby in design 1??

Graham F 19-11-2004 15:43

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1 Looks the best IMO

Marge 19-11-2004 22:28

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We've just had the trials chappy in work asking opinions from the staff about the website and also I'm on the trials so I'll be having a look and voicing my opinion.

:wavey: to Steve if he browses the forum

andrew_wallasey 19-11-2004 22:49

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I like design 1 the most.

swoop101 19-11-2004 22:52

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Number 1 for me, but I thought that we were not supposed to talk about trials info and stuff. :shrug:

Paul K 19-11-2004 22:56

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Originally Posted by swoop101
Number 1 for me, but I thought that we were not supposed to talk about trials info and stuff. :shrug:

It's already been posted on another forum with a much larger user base than here but the CF team are aware of the thread and are ready to pull it at the first sign of a complaint from NTL officialdom ;)

Nikko 20-11-2004 00:39

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Regardless of whether it has appeared elsewhere, this is a privately invited trial. If someone has chosen to go public in breach of their triallist agreement, so be it - but I personally feel it should not be for this site to perpetrate publicising what is currently a closed trial.

BBKing 20-11-2004 12:53

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I think they should lose the Latin, personally :)

Neil 20-11-2004 13:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikko
Regardless of whether it has appeared elsewhere, this is a privately invited trial. If someone has chosen to go public in breach of their triallist agreement, so be it - but I personally feel it should not be for this site to perpetrate publicising what is currently a closed trial.

Why not?

bigitup_j 20-11-2004 13:18

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Originally Posted by BBKing
I think they should lose the Latin, personally :)

lol.
just noticed that. are ntl going to provide an on-line latin course? :cool:

i prefer the 3rd design, more colourful. and it's easy to distinguish between the different sections of the topics. :)

Paul 20-11-2004 14:26

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I preferred 1, and disliked 3 - isn't choice grand :)

Raxor 20-11-2004 20:35

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Loving Choice 3, but they arent that bad at all; i will be happy with using any one of those, but with numnber 3 on top :)

DrAwesome 20-11-2004 22:20

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Originally Posted by Neil
Why not?

there are 4 links in the opening post, 1 of which is to a forum where the thread starter saw the information, the other 3 are linked directly to an area which is only supposed to be viewable by Trailists (using a code) that are taking part in a closed trail. the 3 links are not supposed to be viewed any other way, not to members of the public.

Maggy 20-11-2004 22:51

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The problem is that NTL have such busy looking sites that it is hard to find what you are seeking.I think they need to try and make it easier to find things rather than confuse with too many colours and boxes.

Less is more should be their motto(well when it comes to their website at least).

:)

swoop101 20-11-2004 23:16

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well said miss, and that is basically what I said to them.

Nikko 21-11-2004 00:36

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Originally Posted by Neil
Why not?

So far I have considered this to be a rhetorical question, and therefore not worthy of a response. However the thread is ongoing - so:

Lets say for arguments sake you have a closed area for certain invited subscribers only as a spin-off for this site - do you really want that publicised elsewhere and put into the public domain?

Maggy 21-11-2004 01:11

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Originally Posted by Nikko
So far I have considered this to be a rhetorical question, and therefore not worthy of a response. However the thread is ongoing - so:

Lets say for arguments sake you have a closed area for certain invited subscribers only as a spin-off for this site - do you really want that publicised elsewhere and put into the public domain?

Surely the point is that maybe the public who actually HAVE to use NTL's site should have some input into the discussion.Goodness knows they don't seem to have asked us thus far.If they had I suspect they would have been told that virulent green and purple on a white background are a great turn off in a web site.AT least when it comes to signing up for services that dark blue is much better on the eye.

Nikko 21-11-2004 01:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Incognitas
Surely the point is that maybe the public who actually HAVE to use NTL's site should have some input into the discussion.Goodness knows they don't seem to have asked us thus far.If they had I suspect they would have been told that virulent green and purple on a white background are a great turn off in a web site.AT least when it comes to signing up for services that dark blue is much better on the eye.

Absolutely - so everyone now is expressing a preference - 1, 2 or 3. I am sure they are not interested in whether you prefer blue - ntl are purple/green branding, and are just trying to sort out the best way of presenting this. Ask a million customers - you will get 2 million preferences.

The whole point is - when you are invited to state a preference, please do. If you are not involved in a trial, please wait until you are.

Maggy 21-11-2004 01:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikko
Absolutely - so everyone now is expressing a preference - 1, 2 or 3. I am sure they are not interested in whether you prefer blue - ntl are purple/green branding, and are just trying to sort out the best way of presenting this. Ask a million customers - you will get 2 million preferences.

The whole point is - when you are invited to state a preference, please do. If you are not involved in a trial, please wait until you are.

Actually I have not stated a preference,I've merely stated thus far that NTL have a tendency to go for overly complicated web pages and judging by the links they aren't going to change that anytime soon if that is the choice on offer for discussion.

So when I am allowed to offer an opinion it will be too late anyway.However if I can perhaps proffer my opinion NOW to those in the trial MAYBE there will be common sense prevailing after all.

Nikko 21-11-2004 01:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Incognitas
Actually I have not stated a preference,I've merely stated thus far that NTL have a tendency to go for overly complicated web pages and judging by the links they aren't going to change that anytime soon if that is the choice on offer for discussion.

So when I am allowed to offer an opinion it will be too late anyway.However if I can perhaps proffer my opinion NOW to those in the trial MAYBE there will be common sense prevailing after all.

? No-one is accusing you of stating a preference. You have already offered an opinion. If you wish to be involved in a trial, you are welcome to apply to have your opinion and preferences counted.

Meanwhile, those of you not included in the trial can state a preference or opinion here, which will not be counted.

Paul 21-11-2004 02:00

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Originally Posted by Nikko
Meanwhile, those of you not included in the trial can state a preference or opinion here, which will not be counted.

Maybe I missed the point somewhere along the line, but I'm not expecting any of our opinions (from this vote) to be counted by anyone. As far as I can see it was just harmless internal vote to see which one people on this site liked. :shrug:

Nikko 21-11-2004 02:03

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Originally Posted by Paul M
Maybe I missed the point somewhere along the line, but I'm not expecting any of our opinions (from this vote) to be counted by anyone. As far as I can see it was just harmless internal vote to see which one people on this site liked. :shrug:

No, you are absolutely right, Paul. In which case no-one here is going to be disappointed then.

Paul K 21-11-2004 11:58

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Can I just remind everyone that if they have a problem with this or any other post/ thread on the forum all they have to do is report it, state their reason for asking that it be removed to the team and more often than not the team will act to close and remove any thread that may cause problems or offence. :)
Anyway, the topic in hand.....
I can understand people getting annoyed that confidential information gets sprayed about certain sites but this is not a matter of state secrecy and nothing we post on the new design is going to influence the decision unless a trialist that posts here is willing to take on the views of people here and integrate them into his/ her own choice.
I take it from your posts that you are a trialist Nikko? If so are you upset that priviledged information is posted here or is it just that you don't think we should be allowed a sneak preview of a site that may well not look like any of the screenshots when it is finished?? Let's face it, things get added and removed depending on the feedback given so the 3 screenshots may not even be relevant in a couple of days time.
There are often screenshots leaked of new sites or sometimes even links to sites that are still in testing, more often than not though the un-official feedback proves just as useful as the expexted feedback from the people on the trials team. It just depends on whether someone is willing to take that feedback onboard and filter it into their own.
These are just my own personal opinions which are only valid to me (others are free to have their own thoughts, opinions etc of what I have written ;) ) .... just like my opinion of the new site design :D

ikthius 21-11-2004 13:13

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Although I voted for 3, it really does not mean anything, because the powers that be will choose their fav anyway.

And a lot of people may not frequent the page anyway, so does it matter? it is only an opinion!

Is it supposed to be secret information? maybe the latin means something! :D

ik

badnbusy 21-11-2004 17:59

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I agree with Choice 3. Much Much better

bumpy 21-11-2004 19:50

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Just to clarify a couple of points around the redesign. Firstly, I am disappointed that someone felt the need to place the links on here when all trialists agree to a non-disclosure agreement.

However, I am so pleased so many of you want to take an interest and want to pass comment on the new designs, the reason you will not have seen the designs is that we only sent them to our 2000 trialists, as we are able to then manage their views whilst taking a good sample of our customer base's opinion. If any of you would like to complete a structured survey around the 3 designs before Monday Evening, please pm me and I will send you the link to our recruitment page and the survey.

Bumpy

ntl trials team

Tezcatlipoca 21-11-2004 20:20

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Originally Posted by bumpy
Just to clarify a couple of points around the redesign. Firstly, I am disappointed that someone felt the need to place the links on here when all trialists agree to a non-disclosure agreement.

AFAIK, the thread starter simply found the links et al in the public domain. Whoever posted them where he first saw them has presumably broken their NDA, but no one here has.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bumpy
However, I am so pleased so many of you want to take an interest and want to pass comment on the new designs, the reason you will not have seen the designs is that we only sent them to our 2000 trialists, as we are able to then manage their views whilst taking a good sample of our customer base's opinion. If any of you would like to complete a structured survey around the 3 designs before Monday Evening, please pm me and I will send you the link to our recruitment page and the survey.

Bumpy

ntl trials team


Thanks for the info, & for asking for people to complete your survey :)

bumpy 21-11-2004 20:57

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This is not about blame, but purely to explain to your members some background behind what we are doing. This forum has given us support in the past with other trials and is a good tool for communication. Just did not want people to think they were being left out.

Tezcatlipoca 21-11-2004 21:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bumpy
This is not about blame, but purely to explain to your members some background behind what we are doing. This forum has given us support in the past with other trials and is a good tool for communication. Just did not want people to think they were being left out.


Thanks for your explanation, & the kind words. I hope people here take up your offer for the survey :)

Pointman 22-11-2004 10:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Incognitas
Surely the point is that maybe the public who actually HAVE to use NTL's site should have some input into the discussion.Goodness knows they don't seem to have asked us thus far..

Just wanted to add a little to this discussion since the subject of who was asked has come up.
We (ntl Trials Team) have always openly invited anyone who wished to take part in our trials to volunteer by providing their details at http://www.ntlworld.com/data-feeds/editorial/microsites/trials/ .

Everyone asked to feedback on the new potential designs was recruited from our existing triallist database (made up of people who have volunteered via this link or who have already taken part in trials in the past and I reiterate our invitation to all. If you want to be considered for future trials or similar surveys to this one, just sign up via the link.

Pointy ;)

Neil 22-11-2004 10:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pointman
If you want to be considered for future trials or similar surveys to this one, just sign up via the link.

Pointy ;)

Thanks PM-Nice to see you back. :)

wee willie 29-11-2004 00:58

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all 3 give me a 'not found'

quadplay 29-11-2004 01:05

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That will be because the trial will have finished, so the pages will have been removed.

Pointman 29-11-2004 10:36

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Originally Posted by jimbo
That will be because the trial will have finished, so the pages will have been removed.

True ;)

Russ 29-11-2004 11:10

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Originally Posted by Pointman
True ;)

Can you give us any indication as to the next step? What happens now?

Pointman 29-11-2004 11:23

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All feedback is being reviewed at the moment and a new design will be chosen soon.
Personally I have no idea at present when the new design will be launched.

Russ 29-11-2004 11:27

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OK thanks for that! :)


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