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TheBlueRaja 17-11-2004 15:42

Three new flaws found in IE - For Bifta ;)
 
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19737

SECUNIA HAS ALERTED its customers to three holes in Microsoft Internet Explorer, two of which are moderately critical.

The moderately critical holes, discovered by Cyber Flash, allow the bypassing of security features in Windows XP SP2 on downloading files of particular types.

Another error means that when saving some documents using the Javascript "execCommand() function a file extension can be spoofed in the Save HTML Document dialogue, Secunia said.

The solution to these two problems are to disable Active Scripting support and the "hide extension for known file types option".

There's a demo of these problems, here.

The third, less serious hole is a Cookie path attribute problem if trusted sites support wildcard domains or the domain name contains a malicious site domain by using a maliciously crafted path attribute.

Users with Windows XP SP2 are not affected by the last problem. The solution is to disable cookies except when they're needed, or to update to Windows XP SP2. µ

Bifta 17-11-2004 15:52

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Sure, they'll be patched soon enough and IE will still be more reliable than Firefox ;)

Stuart 17-11-2004 15:57

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ahh, should use a decent browser... Look at my sig..

Ramrod 17-11-2004 16:13

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Originally Posted by scastle
ahh, should use a decent browser... Look at my sig..

Whats the advantage of Opera over other browsers?

TigaSefi 17-11-2004 16:16

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Whats the advantage of Opera over other browsers?

It's Not Firefox.....

Mr_love_monkey 17-11-2004 17:15

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but they expect you to (dare I say it).... PAY for it!!!!!!

:)

Stuart 17-11-2004 17:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
Whats the advantage of Opera over other browsers?

Based on my own personal experience
Opera is faster than other browsers (it is faster than IE and feels faster than firefox)

More secure than IE, although this applies to Firefox as well
Skinnable
Built in email is quite good, but you do have the option of using whatever email client you want (I use Thunderbird)
Virtual post it notes.
Download size (16 Meg with latest Java, 3.5 Meg without)
Full WAP support (OK, not much of an advantage, but if anyone offer a WAP site with no web equivalent, you can view it).
Mouse Gestures (you can control opera with quick mouse movements, e.g. holding the left button and dragging to the left goes back a page)
Opera can "pretend" to be different browsers. This involves chanaging the Agent ID sent to the server, but can be used to get around browser checks.
Tabbed browsing. It can automatically create a new tab in the current window when asked to create a new window (thus keeping the taskbar at the bottom clear). It can be configured to open new windows instead, if desired.
Rather bizarrely, it also includes it's own system for creating Powerpoint-style slideshows..

Cons
As with all browsers, some pages will not display correctly (esecially if they use IE onl features)
Can use an awful of memory (was running it on 2000 server yesterday and it was using 120 Meg of memory :disturbed: )

Stuart 17-11-2004 17:29

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Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey
but they expect you to (dare I say it).... PAY for it!!!!!!

:)


No, they don't.

I use the ad-supported version, which periodically downloads ads from Google.

Ramrod 17-11-2004 17:38

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Originally Posted by scastle
No, they don't.

I use the ad-supported version, which periodically downloads ads from Google.

iirc I found a prog to disable the ads somewhere recently........

Stuart 17-11-2004 17:43

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
iirc I found a prog to disable the ads somewhere recently........

Thanks, but I have to admit, they don't bother me... They are actually considerably less intrusive than the advertising on Cableforum..

aliferste 17-11-2004 17:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
iirc I found a prog to disable the ads somewhere recently........


Isnt that a bit like just using a keygen to pretend you have bought it?

Ramrod 17-11-2004 17:49

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Originally Posted by aliferste
Isnt that a bit like just using a keygen to pretend you have bought it?

No idea m8 :confused:

TheBlueRaja 17-11-2004 18:02

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
No idea m8 :confused:


LOL ;)

Tristan 17-11-2004 18:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scastle
Based on my own personal experience
Opera is faster than other browsers (it is faster than IE and feels faster than firefox)

More secure than IE, although this applies to Firefox as well
Skinnable
Built in email is quite good, but you do have the option of using whatever email client you want (I use Thunderbird)
Virtual post it notes.
Download size (16 Meg with latest Java, 3.5 Meg without)
Full WAP support (OK, not much of an advantage, but if anyone offer a WAP site with no web equivalent, you can view it).
Mouse Gestures (you can control opera with quick mouse movements, e.g. holding the left button and dragging to the left goes back a page)
Opera can "pretend" to be different browsers. This involves chanaging the Agent ID sent to the server, but can be used to get around browser checks.
Tabbed browsing. It can automatically create a new tab in the current window when asked to create a new window (thus keeping the taskbar at the bottom clear). It can be configured to open new windows instead, if desired.
Rather bizarrely, it also includes it's own system for creating Powerpoint-style slideshows..

Cons
As with all browsers, some pages will not display correctly (esecially if they use IE onl features)
Can use an awful of memory (was running it on 2000 server yesterday and it was using 120 Meg of memory :disturbed: )


But every single one of those features (except the odd Powerpoint one) can be added to Firefox with extensions...

When I used Opera I found the adverts *incredibly* annoying, but maybe that's just me.

And what's wrong with Firefox, anyway? At least it's not IE...

Electrolyte01 17-11-2004 21:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scastle
ahh, should use a decent browser...

IE is a decent browser.

Ramrod 17-11-2004 22:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aliferste
Isnt that a bit like just using a keygen to pretend you have bought it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
No idea m8

Ah....sorry, I get it now :dunce:
I suppose it is......however I am neither using Opera or condoning 'ripping it off'......I was merely ading to the discussion. Sorry if it inflamed your ethical sensibilities :)

TheBlueRaja 17-11-2004 23:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
Ah....sorry, I get it now :dunce:
I suppose it is......however I am neither using Opera or condoning 'ripping it off'......I was merely ading to the discussion. Sorry if it inflamed your ethical sensibilities :)


And here was me thinking you were bing a cheeky sod.... ah well :D

Millay 17-11-2004 23:53

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I like IE myself, but amusing Firefox at the moment, as customers will soon be asking my my views on this, so am happily evaluating it.

My views are yes it is a good browser, I love tabbed browsing have done ever since it came out in nutscrape. I don't know whever it is IE or FireFox, but get confused sometimes when IE pop's up when im expecting Firefox.

It seems a little faster, but I have afunny feeling that is caused by the way it looks as it builds a page.. (would love to se some real benchmarks against IE). it builds pages fine.. no problems.. i have yet to find asite that doesnt work.

As for security If one of my clients takes out a service contrract with me, then security becomes less of an issue. As i will be ensuring they have a secure system , and with the help of WUS, they wll be fully patched. i would actually suggest they stick with IE as it integrats nicely with the rest of a MS environmnt whichi personally do no think is a bad thing...

but hey im gonna continue using it...

Stuart 18-11-2004 01:02

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Originally Posted by Tristan
But every single one of those features (except the odd Powerpoint one) can be added to Firefox with extensions...

Relying on extensions for features is good in that it enables the user to configure the browser how they want. However I can thing of bad points too. One being that if you have to re-install the browser for any reason, you may have to re-install all the extensions as well. Also, as some people here have found out, extensions may not work on future versions of the browser. That's OK, as long as the author is still developing the extension.
Quote:

When I used Opera I found the adverts *incredibly* annoying, but maybe that's just me.
Have you tried any of the 7.xx versions of Opera? They used to have one large (by large, I mean the same size as the ads on this forum). Now, they have two tiny ads (about the size of a standard Windows Menu bar) at the top of the window, so it's like and extra menu bar and I have found I can easily ignore it.

Quote:

And what's wrong with Firefox, anyway? At least it's not IE...
Well, in my experience, firefox (including the current version) suffers from the same problem Nutscrape used to. It can take a long time to load. Last time I had it installed on this system, it took 30 seconds to load. Possibly not bad until you take into account this system uses Athlon 64 3000 with 1 Gig of Corsiar DDR400 ram, and runs XP Pro SP2. Opera loads on this system in less than 5 seconds. IE, being effectively built into the OS, starts instantly.

And, as I said earlier, Firefox (IMO) feels slower in use than opera.

themelon 18-11-2004 11:01

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Opera is fast but im not particularly impressed with its standard compliancey. I spent ages developing a standards complients Menu for accessibility based on Suckerfish only to find Opera buggers it for some reason.

Its still useable but half works and half doesnt........no other browser has this problem.

I also found it tends to make things bigger than they acually should.


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