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ikthius 09-11-2004 11:05

email problems started today
 
Hey everyone, not sure if this is the correct place to put this thread

I am having problems today with my email.
This is a strange one actually.

My thunderbird program, says that I have "no new messages on the server" and it looks as if it has contacted the server and found no new messages, so I tried to send a test email from gmail, which did arrive. So it looks like I only have a problem sending messages now.

I noticed this when I was trying to send an email this morning, and it took forever to try to connect to smtp.ntlworld.com, then I had a pop up asking me to input my password, which I found strange, thing is when i put my password in, then I get a sending of messaage failed.
please verify that your mail & newsgroups account settings are correct and try again.


can someone tell me what is going on? is there maintenance going on? is there a problem with the server or is my program at fault, which I think I can rule out.

ik

Neil 09-11-2004 11:28

Re: email problems started today
 
Uh oh...

Not the mail servers falling over (again)?

JohnHorb 09-11-2004 11:30

Re: email problems started today
 
According to the Service Status page, there is an on-going problem with one of the e-mail servers

ghm 09-11-2004 11:46

Re: email problems started today
 
I too can't send email. I just get a constant time-out error. :(

MrSums 09-11-2004 21:17

Can't send - SMTP password required
 
Just tried to send mail and was asked for password - windows pops up titled "Mail Server Password Required: Enter your password for robert on smtp.ntlworld.com"

This is not only a new one on me, it is a new one on a machine I use every day. Something wrong at the ntl-end?

I thought I saw somewhere in this forum a link to a page with the Broadband status, but I can't find it on the knowledgebase. Anyone care to give me a hint?

Thanks

Robert

MrSums 09-11-2004 21:23

Re: Can't send - SMTP password required
 
Ok, found the Robin Walker page and found the status page from there.

There is a service outage affecting sending e-mails, reported today at 16:00

Not me then

Robert

JohnHorb 09-11-2004 21:25

Re: Can't send - SMTP password required
 
There's also a link to the status page near the bottom of this page (one for NTL, one for Telewest)

Tezcatlipoca 09-11-2004 21:26

Re: Can't send - SMTP password required
 
*moved to Email forum*


Yeah, the email is playing up again :rolleyes:

I'm glad I gave up on ntl's email service ages ago.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntl service status
Some ntl: broadband customers may currently find that they are receiving error messeges when trying to send email via the ntlworld service.

This will effect both webmail and sending emails via such programs as outlook, or outlook express.

Our engineers are currently investigating the cause of this issue.

Please accept our apologise for any inconvenience that this may cause.


Simcut 10-11-2004 03:11

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
im not having problems sending e-mail but I am having problems receiving it! :(

efossa 10-11-2004 23:44

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
I can receive email OK, but I havent been able to send any since yesterday.

ikthius 11-11-2004 08:51

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
I can receive emails ok, not a problem, but I am still not able to send any emails, out, it asks for my password, and failing to connect with the smtp,

thats been 4 days now for me I know the server status page does say other wise

server status page as of 11 Nov 2004 08:00:00
http://www.geocities.com/ikthius/ssp.jpg

ik

efossa 11-11-2004 10:26

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
....same here, still can't send any mail. Just about had it with NTL.

Paul 11-11-2004 10:30

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
There are some problems atm, and they are on the case.

homealone 11-11-2004 10:33

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
one interesting side effect of this is that the re-direction from my ntl address that receives the most spam, to my hotmail addy, which filters it, has not been working. I had 189 spam messages in the inbox yesterday :eek: - shows how well the spam filter on hotmail works, I suppose. ;)

efossa 11-11-2004 11:03

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
I just sent an email with Outlook Express and it worked OK (I tired it last night and it didn't work though), it looks like Thunderbird isn't working properly for some reason. :mad:

efossa 11-11-2004 11:40

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
...damn looks like im going to have to go back to the dreadful Outlook Express.

efossa 11-11-2004 12:07

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
damn......thats weird, only Outlook Express will send mail, no other email client will work, i just tried using Mozilla Mail that didnt work either.

nostra 11-11-2004 12:47

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
go into thunderbird...

go to tools > account settings > outgoing server (smtp settings)

remove the username in there if there is one and untick username and password

you should then be able to send mail ok

hope this helps

thunderbird automatically ticks username and password as default it appears even though there is no username in there and something that has happened while upgrading the ntl smtp servers has caused anyone with these settings ticked to fail :S

efossa 11-11-2004 12:57

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Thanks, that worked !!!!!!!!

How did that setting change? I haven't made any changes to Thunderbird - very weird.

nostra 11-11-2004 13:01

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
its not you, ntl have changed the outgoing smtp server to esmtp, which i believe they were not using before (correct me if i am wrong) you have always had it ticked and it has just accepted a blank username, however the new server software that they are using does not accept this and will then force you to enter a username and password which the server is not using and will ultimately refuse.

ikthius 11-11-2004 14:59

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
why does the new server not want a username, I take it they know who we are from the IP address and phone line, instead of just a username?!

it takes a wee bit longer to send than last week, is this due to the upgrade?

ik

nostra 11-11-2004 15:01

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
the old server did not want a username either just like this one as you are allowed to send an email via it as long as you are on an ntl ip range otherwise it will not allow you to send anything, the previous smtp server ignored the fact that there was an empty username, whereas this one does not and you need to untick it :s

as for the server upgrades i know there is a lot of testing being carried out for a couple of new features to be released soon which will please some of you ;) this could be causing it to run slower than normal

Toreador 11-11-2004 15:25

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Maybe they should divert some of their testing resources to fixing current problems? I have been having problems receiving emails for 5 days now - some arrive, others do not. NTL assure us that they will all arrive once the problem is resolved, woopy doo, it would have been quicker for the sender to use a carrier pigeon. And I can't send emails by SMTP, just via webmail (which is subject to frequent 504 timeout errors).
Grrr.

palmour 11-11-2004 15:44

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
That worked a treat. Thankyou so much


Quote:

Originally Posted by nostra
go into thunderbird...

go to tools > account settings > outgoing server (smtp settings)

remove the username in there if there is one and untick username and password

you should then be able to send mail ok

hope this helps

thunderbird automatically ticks username and password as default it appears even though there is no username in there and something that has happened while upgrading the ntl smtp servers has caused anyone with these settings ticked to fail :S


nostra 11-11-2004 15:45

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
the testing is important, and integral to making the platform more stable ultimately with the introduction of the new features

Toreador 11-11-2004 15:51

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
I'll believe it when I see it, if I live that long.

nostra 11-11-2004 16:03

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
lol maybe ;) who knows.. i guess only time shall tell

Crypto 11-11-2004 20:40

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Cheers nostra :beer:

worked for me too.

Crypto :D

LSainsbury 12-11-2004 09:32

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Hello,

I just managed to d/load my email - but it looks like it has gone down again in the last 10 mins...

Anybody else having problems?

Lee


PS - Sorry admin for posting a duplicate link! :angel:

gmcl 12-11-2004 12:02

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Still no outgoing email via Outlook. Service just times out. Ntl's Server Status page said there was a problem on the 9th Nov 16.00. 3 days on still not working. Is there a fix or does anyone know when NTL are likely to solve the problem?

Cheers

pad 12-11-2004 13:28

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
I can't send email from Outlook to NTL either although I do have a simple solution ...

Change the outgoing SMTP server to "mail.tesco.net" and unclick the requires authentication checkbox

Neil 12-11-2004 13:30

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gmcl
Still no outgoing email via Outlook. Service just times out. Ntl's Server Status page said there was a problem on the 9th Nov 16.00. 3 days on still not working. Is there a fix or does anyone know when NTL are likely to solve the problem?

Cheers

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntl Server Status Page
Some ntl: broadband customers may currently find that they are receiving error messeges when trying to send email via the ntlworld service.


This will effect both webmail and sending emails via such programs as outlook, or outlook express.


Our engineers are currently investigating the cause of this issue.


Please accept our apologise for any inconvenience that this may cause.

Page says it's "ongoing".....

Have you actually rung ntl?

Chris W 12-11-2004 14:08

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pad
I can't send email from Outlook to NTL either although I do have a simple solution ...

Change the outgoing SMTP server to "mail.tesco.net" and unclick the requires authentication checkbox

you shouldn't have the authentication box ticked for ntlworld accounts anyway

LSainsbury 12-11-2004 14:24

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
I have phoned NTL - there is an ongoing problem with outgoing outboud email. You should be able to access your mail @ webmail.ntlworld.com - spooky though - that actaully works - which surprised me!

Also - they are in the middle of a major upgrade - which should be finished on the 18th. (Don't think that upgrade is affect the current mail issue though).

Does that tesco smtp thing work then? How? I thought you would need to have some sort of authentication?

*Edit* - Just changed my smtp address to mail.tecso.net - still not sending! :Yikes:

nostra 12-11-2004 15:06

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
even the webmail isn't coping very well getting a lot of unable to connect to the message store on there which is a generic webmail busy / failing message

and i cant see why you should be able to access smtp.tesco.net as this is for tesco.net customers and the ntl ip range should not be allowed to use it, aless tesco.net allows ntlworld.com ip ranges.

never tried so not sure, but shouldnt be?!?!

Chris W 12-11-2004 15:27

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
220 ESMTP server ready
250 dircache03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com
553 Authentication is required to send mail as <test@tesco.net>

Hmm looks like authentication is required on tesco's smtp server. However, it is accessable from ntlworld ip ranges... probably because tesco.net is run by ntl ;)

Gogogo 12-11-2004 15:44

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Yes once again no e-mail service. Even web mail hopeless. We will just have to be patient and hope the service will be up running again soon.

;)

LSainsbury 12-11-2004 15:47

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogogo
Yes once again no e-mail service. Even web mail hopeless. We will just have to be patient and hope the service will be up running again soon.

;)


Yes - It'll be fixed by the 18th :D

pad 12-11-2004 16:33

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
The Tesco bit works for me with no authentication. I was surprised when I did it a couple of days ago that it worked and it still does

lsainsbury - make sure you have spelt Tesco correctly!

NTL - don't you just love'em

gmcl 12-11-2004 18:51

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Yes, stmp.tesco.net works for me too. Nice fix. Thanks guys. Don't you just luv ntl customer service. Post a message saying they have a problem & think they've done their bit !!!

Chris W 12-11-2004 19:12

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gmcl
Yes, stmp.tesco.net works for me too. Nice fix. Thanks guys. Don't you just luv ntl customer service. Post a message saying they have a problem & think they've done their bit !!!

urm... all ntl customer service can do is advise customers that there is a problem- and this is what they have done. So they have done their bit. What else do you want them to do?

Toreador 15-11-2004 12:51

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeybreath
What else do you want them to do?

I'd like them to tell the truth. For instance, last week when a lot of emails weren't being received, they assured us that once the problems were fixed then all the missing emails would arrive. Well presumably the problem is fixed, as it's no longer on the status page, but the test emails I sent myself at the beginning of last week still haven't arrived. :mad:

nostra 15-11-2004 13:18

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
they are arriving just extremely delayed, last night i had a test message which i sent to my account from the 11th turn up

so they are coming... just slowly

Gaargh 15-11-2004 18:01

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Every time I try to log in to my email it says password not valid,
has this happened to anyone else?
Gaz.

Toreador 15-11-2004 18:05

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Not sure, but webmail is down again which is usual indicative of a more general problem

Chris W 15-11-2004 18:16

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Toreador
Not sure, but webmail is down again which is usual indicative of a more general problem

mine logs in fine, but it may be that one of the Mail Storage Servers has gone down.... i'll get some more info when i go to work later.

nostra 15-11-2004 20:15

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
am having problems with webmail

but pop3 server seems to be working fine!

blue jammer 15-11-2004 20:37

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
I also haven't been able to have e-mails forwarded and deleted from the server, having set up a rule for both my ntl mail accounts via webmail.

I wondered why my yahoo account was quiet, and logged in to webmail to see hundreds of mails just sat there :rolleyes:

Trying to access webmail tonight is a waste of time, it just times out, the useless piece of poo that it is :td:

I hope they get it fixed soon, as this is a nightmare, and I think once it's back to some kind of 'normality' I'll change every record of ntl mail to yahoo, as at least that is reliable and spam free...

Edit to add:

Quote:

Session invalid.
This message occurs because you have either previously logged out
or your session has automatically timed out.
Great :clap:

andyl 17-11-2004 17:35

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Anyone know if NTL: Business's service is any more reliable than NTL: Home's? They offer a 750k broadband package for the same price (£24.99 ) but with a service guarantee - six hour fix or compo I believe. I'm thinking of switching (cos too much hassle to get a BT line back in, though believe me I'm tempted). The compo element suggests to me NTL: Business servers may be more robust and/or the engineers more incentivised!

Neil 17-11-2004 18:05

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyl
Anyone know if NTL: Business's service is any more reliable than NTL: Home's? They offer a 750k broadband package for the same price (£24.99 ) but with a service guarantee - six hour fix or compo I believe. I'm thinking of switching (cos too much hassle to get a BT line back in, though believe me I'm tempted). The compo element suggests to me NTL: Business servers may be more robust and/or the engineers more incentivised!

Are you V.A.T registered?

andyl 17-11-2004 18:26

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Nope. I'm just a humble freelance. I think I can see where you're going. It's going to be £24.99 plus VAT isn't it?!

andy

Gogogo 18-11-2004 10:33

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Ok, now I have been very patient for the past week waiting for today the promised day when the e-mail service etc is to be restored.

Trying to access mail via Outlook Express, yes and settings checked but server refusing me access to receive or send. Even web mail as dead as the dodo. So NTL techies what is going on? When can we expect normality to be restored?

:erm:

threadbare 18-11-2004 12:26

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogogo
Ok, now I have been very patient for the past week waiting for today the promised day when the e-mail service etc is to be restored.

Trying to access mail via Outlook Express, yes and settings checked but server refusing me access to receive or send. Even web mail as dead as the dodo. So NTL techies what is going on? When can we expect normality to be restored?

:erm:

Just used telnet to get into my email account †“ web-mail working too.

There have been problems with errors sending mail - notably error 550 when sending

Gogogo 19-11-2004 09:12

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by threadbare
Just used telnet to get into my email account †“ web-mail working too.There have been problems with errors sending mail - notably error 550 when sending

Fortune smiles on you. We cannot access our e-mail at all for over a week now, neither can we access web mail and neither can we get into our account. So I suppose I'll have to call CS this morning to get assistance though I'm not excited by the thought.

;)

Gerry1 11-12-2004 04:06

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pad
I can't send email from Outlook to NTL either although I do have a simple solution ...

Change the outgoing SMTP server to "mail.tesco.net" and unclick the requires authentication checkbox

Many thanks to pad for suggesting changing the outgoing SMTP server to mail.tesco.net - solved a problem that's been bugging me since I switched to Tesco Broadband !

I used to be with Powergen ISP (which was then taken over by Breathe) but I still managed to send and receive my e-mail when I switched to AOL. But when I went to Tesco I could only receive, not send. I didn't want to use Tesco's webmail or change my existing PGen address so I spent hours on Google looking for a solution to the dreaded "Error Number: 0x800ccc0e" messages.

I'm just annoyed that Tesco don't seem to have some relevant FAQs, just a helpline where I couldn't speak to a real person after holding for 35 minutes.

Once again, many thanks.

Gerry

LSainsbury 19-12-2004 01:31

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
ohhh god...here we go again - unable to connect and download email to Outlook but webmail is fine (but slow)....


I'm getting really fed-up with this now..... :disturbd: :disturbd:

andyl 21-12-2004 10:55

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Anyone having issues with messages failing to arrive in their inbox? Someone who emails frequently is insistent she has sent mails which haven't arrived. But I still get mail from her. Yesterday she sent two mails a couple of mins apart but only one arrived. She's using BTconnect, I'm using NTLworld. Could messages be being blocked by NTL's new spam blocker?

Andy

PS. For those familiar with my previous posts, the lost mails aren't in my spam folder this time!

threadbare 21-12-2004 13:11

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyl
Anyone having issues with messages failing to arrive in their inbox? Someone who emails frequently is insistent she has sent mails which haven't arrived. But I still get mail from her. Yesterday she sent two mails a couple of mins apart but only one arrived. She's using BTconnect, I'm using NTLworld. Could messages be being blocked by NTL's new spam blocker?

Andy

PS. For those familiar with my previous posts, the lost mails aren't in my spam folder this time!

quite possibly. I am sure BT have many email servers and maybe only be one or two that have been blocked. This will need to be taken up by your friend with BT

andyl 21-12-2004 14:17

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by threadbare
quite possibly. I am sure BT have many email servers and maybe only be one or two that have been blocked. This will need to be taken up by your friend with BT

I can't understand why some mails should get through and others not. Also had someone else on complaining that a mail I sent, twice (once yesterday, once this morning, has failed to arrive. Also had a response this moring from the postmaster at one address I sent to with a group mailing yesterday, saying delivery to other recipients (with a variety of ISPs) had been delayed. I is confused!

andyl 21-12-2004 17:47

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Beware. Turns out I'd been blacklisted by something called SORBS (Spam & Open Relay Blocking System) purely, it seems, because I have, in common with all other cable users, a dynamic IP address. I've contacted SORBS to request delisting but spotted an article on the internet which suggests they may not be that co-operative. Personally I'm not sure that this kind of vigilantism is the right way to combat spam.

Incidentally, thumbs up to NTL Tech Support who provided some good and prompt advice. If other NTL users suffer similar problems let's hope the company jumps on SORBS from a great height.


Cheers

LSainsbury 21-12-2004 18:21

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyl
Beware. Turns out I'd been blacklisted by something called SORBS (Spam & Open Relay Blocking System) purely, it seems, because I have, in common with all other cable users, a dynamic IP address. I've contacted SORBS to request delisting but spotted an article on the internet which suggests they may not be that co-operative. Personally I'm not sure that this kind of vigilantism is the right way to combat spam.

Incidentally, thumbs up to NTL Tech Support who provided some good and prompt advice. If other NTL users suffer similar problems let's hope the company jumps on SORBS from a great height.


Cheers


You can request a check on your account using this:

http://www.ordb.org/

Lee

threadbare 21-12-2004 18:30

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyl
I can't understand why some mails should get through and others not. Also had someone else on complaining that a mail I sent, twice (once yesterday, once this morning, has failed to arrive. Also had a response this moring from the postmaster at one address I sent to with a group mailing yesterday, saying delivery to other recipients (with a variety of ISPs) had been delayed. I is confused!

the reason some mails get through and others don't is beacuse when someone sends a message it will routed through one of many servers. it only takes one or two of these servers to be blacklisted to cause this type of problem. If they were all blacklisted then no mails would get through.

can you post the exact returned mail message minus the email addy's?

andyl 21-12-2004 18:53

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by threadbare
the reason some mails get through and others don't is beacuse when someone sends a message it will routed through one of many servers. it only takes one or two of these servers to be blacklisted to cause this type of problem. If they were all blacklisted then no mails would get through.

can you post the exact returned mail message minus the email addy's?

Cheers - that's what NTL Tech Support said today. The problem is that I'm not getting messages returned (and as far as I'm aware neither are the people whose messages are failing to reach me). So nobody knows what's getting through and what's not.

paulyoung666 25-01-2005 21:43

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
looks like the right place to post this , so here we go ....... , are any of our teesside members having problems with receiving e-mail , it has been down for me since coming in from work :( :( :( :(

Neil 25-01-2005 21:54

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
looks like the right place to post this , so here we go ....... , are any of our teesside members having problems with receiving e-mail , it has been down for me since coming in from work :( :( :( :(

*Cough* http://www.ntl-isp.ntl.com/ServiceStatus/ *Cough*

paulyoung666 25-01-2005 22:04

Re: [Merged] EMail Problems *Again*
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil


neil , you really need to get that cough sorted out ;) :D , i did look but i saw nothing :confused: , anyway , i have just rebooted my pc and as soon as i tried to receive mail it worked straightaway :confused: , anyway it works now :D :D :D


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