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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3988067.stm

Since becoming a parent, stories like this make my blood boil :grind:

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****.
Edit: LoL :)

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They make me cry! :(

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I'd like half an hour with the *******.

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Just 5 minutes would do me...

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Poor kid. What chance has he got........will probably grow up acting the same way :(

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With a bit of luck, if the authorities don't catch his father (assuming it's his father), he'll grow up and do what my dad did; knock his father out and try not to be like him.

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Disgraceful.

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what would you do?

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<sarcasm mode>

Play cards with him...

</sarcasm mode>

;)

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so before you became a parent it was acceptable to you? :confused:

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Not at all but since my daughter has been born stories like this feel a lot closer to home.

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Hmmmm. So a kid is screaming blue murder and having a right tantrum on the bus, right at the back of your head. And no one here would entertain thoughts of throttling the little *******? That level of violence against a kid is unacceptable, sure, but few kids these days are angels.

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Actually no. And if anyone had similar thoughts about my daughter I'd certainly appreciate them keeping it to themselves.

No-one says they are! :D

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Try telling that to Childline :rolleyes:

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In South Wales they'll throw the child and the mother off the bus these days if they cry too much !

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Yeah I heard about that too - apparently the screaming child was distracting the driver too much.

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the bus driver cant do much, he does have to concentrate on the road not have a child who is becoming an irratation to him, an accident is begging to happen...

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but if you look at the big picture , 1 bus crashed against 2 ppl turfed off :erm: , wasnt having a go at you russ btw :angel:

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Hey I'm not saying I disagreed with it! What I didn't like about that story was the way the driver apparently spoke to the mother, he said something like "Your child is annoying the hell out of me".

It may be how he felt but I don't think he should be allowed to get away with speaking to a passenger like that.

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couldnt agree more :tu: :angel:

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wait, this man was reported to look about 28, but was 46?

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Perhaps it was the way he was dressed?

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maybe , i for one find it very hard to guess ppl's ages ;)

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You expect the parent to discipline the child.

And this is the problem, what constitutes discipline and what constitutes abuse.

Clearly this man was going over the top and if he's prepared to bray the kid like that in public then god knows what he would do behind closed doors.

But you can't put every parent in the same category, sometimes it is appropriate to discipline a child by smacking them. You cannot always reason with a 3/4/5 year old. Sometimes the best quickest way to convey the message that they have done wrong and should not do that again is short sharp smack. Doing this is not abuse, in fact it is in the best interests of the child.

It is wrong that the government is taking away parental rights/ and responsibilities.

Also child abuse is not always physical but very often verbal and mental. I'd mush rather see a child disciplined by a quick slap to the bum and then hear some loutish teenage mother scream abuse at her child (something I see all to often, and usually at supermarket checkouts for some reason)

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I'm puzzled as to what Russ or anyone else here plans to do with this man for 5 mins or half an hour?

I dont think you can reason with someone who (alledgedly) beats his child - the best option is to take the kids off them?

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It's a shame, and very sad really that you had to become a parent first.

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True. But when you are a parent it affects you more because you 'feel' for the kids more.
Before I became a parent I wasn't half as affected by sad stories about children as I am now. :shrug:

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No, you misunderstand. The reason it affects me more now is because whenever I hear a story of a child in pain, or anything nasty happening to kids at all, I automaticially feel like it's my own daughter, so naturally I feel more concerned. I'm with ramrod 100% on this one.

The temptation to kick his butt around the room would be VERY difficult to resist.

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I know the feeling only too well, I'm sure you guys can imagine what I'll do to the -Expletive deleted- That intentionaly ran over my 2 year old son.
But I also feel that you should'nt tackle violence with violence in these cases, especially when condemning the guy for using violence.

Either way, whats done is done, its in the hands of the authorities now.

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and after he's had a good beating... he'll probably take it out on the kid. in fact he could be doing (alledgedly) what his father did to him 30 years ago.

very sad when you look at people like ralph bulger who has lived with years of torment after having his kid murdered. some parents take their kids for granted - they should remember how if their kid is safe and well - then they should be greatful.

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Hope the little one is ok by the way.

This is why I've said the temptation to take it out on him would be strong - I'm not saying I would do it as I've never never been in such an emotional situation, thankfully.

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I'm glad they got the bar steward.

Discipline in children is one of the most difficult things ever to talk about because everyone has very strong views on the subject, but knocking the living $h1te out of a child is not reasonable to any normal person, nor is screaming obsenities at the poor child.

A child normally acts that way because they are trying to attract attention to themselves. The best answer is to ignore the behavior (and they'll get bored and settle down and behave)

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OT sorry, but yeah he's mending great.

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the sad part is, the "dad" will be free to do it again!!

IF the police do anything, they`ve to get the CPS to take action, got to find staff from the store to be witness (which most wont)

then IF it goes to court some booze soaked judge will give him something like 2 month, 100 hours community, or £50 fine...

the "mother" will take him back as she loves him and he`s promised never to do it again, the social workers will go once a month for 1 hour to "work with the family"....

where infact he should be given 12 month, and an order NEVER to be alone with a child again.

Oh and that goes for if it was the mother as well.

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Or then again personally jail him for 3years but while in Jail force him to see a shrink and have them talk over WHY he does that, in the end he could be a abused person himself who does not know any better.

While what he has done is VERY wrong, meeting him with violence is a bad move as probally when he was a child he has had worse and the older he gets the worse he will be to his children.

Sadly this man does not need jailing he needs help.