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nffc 05-11-2004 14:10

Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
Right... how can I stop explorer.exe using so much RAM?

It's currently using about 34MB (it was running about a seventh of that earlier but I rebooted and it's gone back to using loads again, dunno why it went down so much), and it's slowing everything down...

This is on XP Home SP2, 512MB RAM, Athlon XP 2000+

punky 05-11-2004 14:13

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
You probably need to start disabling things that explorer uses to enhance itself. Things like, taskbar item grouping, menu animations, etc.

nffc 05-11-2004 14:16

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by punky
You probably need to start disabling things that explorer uses to enhance itself. Things like, taskbar item grouping, menu animations, etc.

Maybe- but I didn't disable them and after rebooting the usage went down from the usual 34 to about 5-10, and then after removing a program from the startup (which had been there already) it went back up to 34 again!

Electrolyte01 05-11-2004 14:18

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
Hmm, that is quite high. Very high for XP, since 2000's explorer.exe (the kernel) only uses 4MB.

Have you tried using the Windows Classic theme?

Paul K 05-11-2004 14:21

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
Explorer will start with low memory usage and then the amount will change depending on how you are using the pc. Do you have a high res wallpaper that may be adding to the load?

punky 05-11-2004 14:22

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
I shouldn't worry about it though, not with 512m of physical RAM. You probably have 512 of virtual memory too, so the difference 20 meg will make would be negligible.

Electrolyte01 05-11-2004 14:23

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
explorer.exe might even get paged out if the PC is used a lot. That's when the system goes terribly slow, so you will know what it does :)

nffc 05-11-2004 14:40

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
Windows Classic... nope, I hate it!

High res wallpaper, well it's a Forest squad, and it's in 1024x768, I think...

Electrolyte01 05-11-2004 14:50

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
Well just try it and see if it helps.

nffc 05-11-2004 14:52

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
Changing the wallpaper has no effect, I've just tried...

Windows Classic- here we go...

nffc 05-11-2004 14:53

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
Right, that's taken it down to 10... meaning something in the Xp theme is hogging all the RAM, but what. I hate this look...

nffc 05-11-2004 14:55

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
And pulling it back onto XP, and restoring a wallpaper, brings it back up to 12!

punky 05-11-2004 14:56

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
I don't think explorer.exe would ever get paged out, it is in constant use. What gets paged out depends on freqeuency of usage. In the old days when memory was small, it was determined line by line, but nowadays probably works more on functions.

Electrolyte01 05-11-2004 14:58

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
If changing to the Windows Classic made it drop by that much, then you have a lot of Windows's "good looks" features on. When the XP theme is put on, it uses more memory because of the extra colours and images that have to be put into memory.

nffc 05-11-2004 15:01

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott
If changing to the Windows Classic made it drop by that much, then you have a lot of Windows's "good looks" features on. When the XP theme is put on, it uses more memory because of the extra colours and images that have to be put into memory.

I know... but it doesn't explain:

- windows theme before anything: explorer - 32MB
- applying classic: explorer - 10MB
- reloading XP theme: explorer - 12MB

Which is what's puzzling me...

Electrolyte01 05-11-2004 15:08

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
When reloading the XP theme, it probably didn't put "everything" into the memory, and will probably place it in the memory when it's requested.

Windows theme management can act strange at times :erm:

nffc 05-11-2004 15:47

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott
When reloading the XP theme, it probably didn't put "everything" into the memory, and will probably place it in the memory when it's requested.

Windows theme management can act strange at times :erm:

And don't I know it...

I'm determined to find out WTF is going on here, but you guys can all have greenies for helping... :)

nffc 05-11-2004 19:17

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
Now, 14,596K

Electrolyte01 05-11-2004 19:18

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
Still in classic or WinXP theme?

EDIT: Just looked at my XP notebook, and it's at 15MB and it only has BOINC running. All settings on performance (including the Windows Classic theme) so I don't think your going to get it much lower than 14MB I'm afraid.

MadGamer 05-11-2004 21:08

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
It could be that you have also started many programs and they havent ended the task in the Task Manager properly.

Electrolyte01 05-11-2004 21:50

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne A
It could be that you have also started many programs and they havent ended the task in the Task Manager properly.

That wouldn't effect the kernel. explorer.exe is basically the task bar, anything on it, etc. Do you have a lot of icons on your task bar?

philip.j.fry 05-11-2004 22:28

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott
That wouldn't effect the kernel. explorer.exe is basically the task bar, anything on it, etc. Do you have a lot of icons on your task bar?

Explorer is a shell, not the kernel :)

nffc, I don't know much about explorer in XP, but have you thought of trying an alternative shell. Most shell replacements are built to have a smaller memory footprint and be far more flexible/themeable. Some of them are:

Geoshell (I use this one, very easy to set up)
Litestep
Darkstep

and a whole load more listed here

nffc 05-11-2004 23:53

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott
Still in classic or WinXP theme?

EDIT: Just looked at my XP notebook, and it's at 15MB and it only has BOINC running. All settings on performance (including the Windows Classic theme) so I don't think your going to get it much lower than 14MB I'm afraid.

As I said, in the XP theme.

I can't get why it was hogging so much, when it didn't need it.

As for the icons, surely it doesn't matter as it was the same when in classic...

MadGamer 06-11-2004 10:25

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott
That wouldn't effect the kernel. explorer.exe is basically the task bar, anything on it, etc. Do you have a lot of icons on your task bar?

No i dont because i disavble alot of programs that are not needed by Windows. I disable them through msconfig.exe and Startup Inspector for Windows which is found at http://www.windowsstartup.com

nffc 07-11-2004 15:36

Re: Explorer.exe and RAM usage
 
8,976K - on the XP theme... :p

Now to fry firefox and its ram usage...


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