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Actually, Scratch that.. They got beat by Stoke!

3-1, and they did actually have some decent players out!, Eat that! Barthez' has gotta go.. Got lobbed from like 40 yard lol.

Ferguson!, blamed the length of the grass, lmfao.. GROW UP, and CHECK YOUR SELL BY DATE! :D

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Class!! :D

Looks for all the Man United supporters :p

bah!, Where's Kronas, or Pete When you need to laugh! :D

:rofl:

well done u beat united's reserve team in a freindly:rofl: might give u a wave from the top of the league if we get the time

Come on, we can't beat everyone all the time !!!

Congratulations to Stoke. Beating an under-strenght United team in a pre-season friendly, must be the highlight of your season ;)

Anyway your right, Barthez is past his best. I'm putting my money on Howard starting the season.

barthez
o'shea
silvestre
forlan
djembe
bellion
butt

:rolleyes:

Well, I suspose the grass was too long :rofl::D

OHH, Since its a debate on reserves...

It was 2 Stoke reserves who scored the goals, and we had youngsters and trialists playing.

Still, the grass was a bit long :rofl:lmfao

i love all this 'we' bit , not

narf gone quiet though aint it , have all the man u fans taken there cocoa to bed now :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

BTW Steve_NTL, since your such a big fan of Stoke, why don't you tell us when they won the first division, after all you proclaimed they did over on a thread on .com

Or maybe you prefer to spend your time ****ging off Man Utd, instead of being interested in the team you "follow".

lol, Some sour Grapes here gazzae, Im sure its not your lass Loss!!!!! :rofl:

Yeah, That was My mistake, I was on about the Old First Division, Which was then classed as the second division..

But anyway :notopic:

We're talking about tonights results mate ;)

****ing off Man UTD?.. erm, Spend more time following the team I support! I just did, I WENT TO THE MATCH AND WATCHED THEM SHOW THEM HOW TO PLAY FOOTBALL!!!!!:D

Really, so instead of coming on here and starting a thread about how good stoke were tonight, you come on and start a thread about how bad United were.

Sorry?:confused: Guess it goes both ways..

Im sorry I offended you.

Sorry i'm confused, why are you talking about the first division?

You didn't offend me, was just wondering why, after all you suppopt stoke, you would create a threat saying the other team was crap instead of creating a thread about how good your team was.

funny that as soon as someone says summat about man u there supporters sense of humour goes right out the window , now when they are winning , need i say more ;)

Stoke won Division 2, before there was a premiership. I classed this as Division 1 Without Thinking, as technically nowadays.. This would of been Division 1 (With the premiership), Anyway, Thats not what we're talking about here :)


The thread can actually be taken both ways..

It Doesnt explicitly say "Manchester United are Crap", Nor Does it say "Stoke city are the best". Take it how you want, I dont care.. Like Paul says, Your sense of humour tottaly goes as soon as there's a loss. A focal point of the thread was going on what Fergie said about the grass.. I mean, It was the same for both sets of teams! (And dont go saying Stoke have already had a match on it, Cos they havnt for the past 3 week).

My sense of humour is still here. :)

I'll freely admit that Man Utd were absolutely **** tonight.

I just wonder why people who claim to support there team don't come on and say how great there team played.

Ok, Stoke played great.. Manu werent ****e, They were tottaly outclassed on the night. I didnt originally say this because of the utter ****e Manu fans come out with, Including there manager.

Thats it from me, Good night.

Any chance of a link to what fergie said about the grass?

i know nothing i have been away

*not that anyone has noticed :rolleyes:

Well, we did notice the relative calm ;)

I'm off to bed, will look at the damage in the morning;)

lol i cannae believe the whingin' Scot blamed the grass lol....

Anybody? I cannot find a link anywhere that lists this as one of Fergie's quotes from last night.

Steve_NTL, where did you see this quote?

How many of United's regular first team were playing?

United team....

Barthez (Ricardo, 86)
Lynch
O'Shea
Silvestre (Tate, 74)
Pugh
Fletcher
Butt (Nardiello, 46)
Djemba-Djemba (Wood, 86)
Richardson
Bellion
Forlan (Jones, 86).

Well I'm not going to use the excuse of 'it wasn't United's stongest team', but put it this way - if it really was a major concern for us, it would have had a little more press coverage than that.

Also Stoke played a mostly reserve team as well.

Didn't mention it last night, but well done to Stoke. They played really well.

Just found Fergie's quote..

whinge whinge whinge :D

;) He left his excuse calendar at home. It was the only one he could think of at short notice :D

Anyway if i remember correctly I believe he's used that one before :p

At least he didn't say that the players couldn't see each other because of the colours of their shirts!

One more thing, the pitch was near perfect :)

uh oh here we go again , mind you i must admit ferguson does have more than a few excuses :spin:

yeah I noticed watching the game that it was in good shape.

heheheh gawd the night a united thread starts and im away at the game and it takes me longer to get home than the stoke fans coz i dont live in manchester and i had to stop for some prawns on the way home.
yeh the b team lost to stoke who played better
barthez is crap and we have replaced him
the grass may be perfect to stoke fans but at united we have real mowers to keep the pitch the best in the uk instead of billy goats munching away at it in an attempt to trim it but most of us can take a loss in a friendly game without crying.

"bring on the prawn sandwiches"

lol - Your tone suggests your embarressed ;)

Stoke had the pitch replaced last season, and re-seeded during Pre Season, The only difference to Man Utd's pitch is the dimensions ;)

barthez
o'shea
silvestre
forlan
djembe
bellion
butt

:rolleyes:

Im pretty damn sure they play in Manu's First team :sleep:

PS - Stoke played a reserve/trialist team, It even lacked shape, and didnt have a specific formation.

bellion = no
barthez = no more
djemba = 4th friendly no real game yet
forlan = reserve
we still lost tho but friendlys are nothing to cry about

"bring on the prawn sandwiches"

Until you play Bolton at the weekend ;) never really play well against them at your place do you, the odd lucky result but i think they will beat you :p :D

yeh whatever
we may or may not lose against bolton but we will win the league again this year.
bolton killed off arsenal for us last season and on a good day they can beat anyone but......one win does not a championship winning team make
thats why boro fans cant remember any game they played since boxing day

"bring on the prawn sandwiches"

Nah we never do, Bolton always beat us it seems lol! They really are our bogey team.
In case anyones interested the stats are...
Man Utd Wins 37 Draws 23 Bolton Wins 40

Anyway it looks like it may be Keane in defense with Djemba make his premiership debut.

lol...is that a fact :rolleyes:

Saying I'm in a fact mood..

Man Utd Wins 30 Draws 31 Stoke Wins 26

Highest Man Utd Win
English Division 1 Manchester United 5-0 Stoke City 06-05-1985
Highest Stoke Win
English Division 1 Stoke City 7-1 Manchester United 07-01-1893

Last time teams met competively
1993/1994
English League Cup Manchester United 2-0 Stoke City 06-10-1993
English League Cup Stoke City 2-1 Manchester United 22-09-1993

hmmmm howard is good and djemba looks quite good and kleberson and ronaldo also seem good......maybe alex has bought us some decent squad players this year to make up for donkey veron and "here you are thierry mate if i roll you the ball have a free goal" barthez

"bring on the prawn sandwiches"

Of course you could also say that Barthez kept us in the hunt for the league last season with a couple of amazing saves.

Thast the problem though.. He does some wicked saves, yet he isnt consitent, and takes too many chances..

I was well impressed by chelsea yesterday.. Duff :eek::D

Didn't see the chelsea match, was watching Man U.
How did Veron play?

Mixed really, He started out at right wing, and he wasnt effective at all, lacked width. He then moved central and showed how commanding a figure he can be :)

so are are we going to hear 'oh look at veron he is such a good player' now seen as he has left man utd :rolleyes:

no he will still be rubbish in the league :D

ROFL

Actually, doing my usual trick of taking threads off topic, a few friends and I were talking last night and were wonders what will happen to chelski if this Russian guy gets bored with them (after all I heard he considered it just to be a hobbie) and then buggers off leaving them with all these superstars on £100k a week salaries.

the russian will be the only one at chelski around when winter sets in coz all the other fine weather pansys he has bought will be keeping warm in the physio room collecting their 110k a week

"bring on the prawn sandwiches"

How come Giggs just took the penalty???? :confused:

He didn't - according to the BBC Van the Man missed it and Giggs took the rebound.

D'oh that wasn't what it said on the bbc site at first...:rolleyes:

Anyway, I'm waiting for the anti-Man United fans to moan about Scholes's goal being off-side....like it mattered!! :D

Not at all mate just wish you could play stoke every week :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Well maybe the reserve team could :D

well we know that highly unlikley don't we:)

not such a reserve team really was it, oh and it wasn't even stokes best team :rofl: :rofl:

Well in that case I guess Stoke are a better team than the 8 time Premiership champions and 10 time FA Cup winners :D

Glad you agree Russ

:D:D:D:D

Bet you're glad that you don't play Fulham every week? :rofl:

No not really was a very entertaining game by all accounts, i just put it down to first day jitters :p

:rofl:

Would those be the same jitters that last all season whenever you play away? :D

na mate we got over them thanks after about 4 months ;)

hmm, I guess man utd need to get rid of the first team players that were playing in the match then, If they're only good enough to be called the reserve team.

Thats the one thing I hate, Big headidness, thinking your team has its own Anti supporter club.. trust me your not that well liked!

(Except in China);)

Well as I said, I guess Stoke are just a better team than Man Utd then :D

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Are you seriously trying to tell me that you think United aren't the most hated club???

Only two of the players who started the match against Stoke, started against Bolton.
I'm not making excuses, Stoke played well, Man United played crap.

I thought all the fans in China now supported Real? :p

Hate is a strong word Russ...

The thing that gets me is them constantly being rammed down my throat...

Look at the BBC homepage... Here for an example. Didn't Blackburn win 5-1 today??

Why is it "Man Utd off to a flyer?" :shrug:

Good point about the word 'hate'.....

I'm not a gambling man but if I was I'd be willing to bet this month's pay that if you asked all the non-United football fans which team they'd like to see slowly die a death and slip in to the First Division, the vast majority would say Man United.

I'm not discussing whether or not this resentment is justified, I'm just making a point that the usual anti-United brigade often come out with daft comments about one of their 4 goals being 'way offside'.....

Well, we'l hafta wait for the premiership tonight ;)

I caught a bit of it on Sky earlier and it certainly looked dodgy to me.

I'll bet you're glad to put the ghost of the last 2 seasons playing Bolton at home behind you though. ;)

Ruud was a mile offside on scholes' goal.

The main plus point of the game for me was Ronaldo. For an 18 year old to come on and completely change the game! A real star for the future, if not now.

You bet :)

In any case I think all eyes will be on Chelsea v Liverpool tomorrow. It'll be interesting to see how the new-look Blues will handle quality opposition.

Don't call us quality oposition man, we don't know which Liverpool team are going to turn up yet:( Is it going to be the one that creates bags of chances and loses 1- 0 or the boring sde thta manages to win 1 - 0.

Ok yes I am nervous, but honestly think we will struggle tomorrow, no Gerrard or Hamman, and Biscan is going to be our midfield anchor man:shrug:

Because they are the current champions :)

I disagree - Liverpool have the potential to give any big team a good game.

So who watched the Man u, Bolton match, i did :)
off to a slow start, but when Ronaldo came on the whole game picked up, this lad is looking very very promising :)

Personally I think Man Utd were lucky with all goals, a decent ref would have said they all offside :P :rofl:....

**** off another bitter fan:rolleyes: 99% of clubs would give their hind legs for half the skill of united the game is all about luck if a player doesn't make mistake u don't score.
who do u support?

I agree man, but we can also stink out the place like a 3rd devision team on our day:p

Settle petal!

He wasnt' really interfering with play, If anything he gave scholes more work to do, as he flicked the ball out of his path.

a pro united comment
:eeek:

I'd say he WAS interferring with play. From this vantage point I thought his flick set Scholes up nicely.

But then again, it doesn't matter :D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/3140907.stm

Oh dear, another team with high expectations of toppling the dominant force in the premiership...... :D

yeh allardyces comment that scholes "offside goal" changed the face of the game is tosh coz bolton were 2 nil down pizzin in the wind when the "offside" goal went in..
arsenal looked poor even though they won....
chelsea looked marginally better than liverpool who were crap..
newcastle scraped a result....
blackburn scored 5 lucky goals....(ahem)
yup looks like man utd are off to a flyer...wahhaaaayyyy

"bring on the prawn sandwiches"

Someones going to topple Arsenal? :eek::p:D

yeh i suppose arsenal are the dominant force seeing as they have won the league twice in the last 11 years hahahahaha.
you are havin a laff pal
dominant = 8 from 11 = man utd
sporadic = 2 from 11 = arsenal
once in a blue moon = 1 from 11 = blackburn
also rans = liverpool,chelsea,newcastle
as much chance as hell freezing over and the devil ice skating on it = leeds,boro,man city,spurs etc etc

"bring on the prawn sandwiches"

Yep, But now someone else has got some money.. (Cough, Chelsea)

Yes of course, quite a few :)

yeh but they have so far spent it on do-nuts

"bring on the prawn sandwiches"

money can bring high profile signings you cant have success with just money it takes team spirit the right coaching manager tactics and the team must also gel and work togethor

the geordies bite the dust......
ruuuuuud boyz

"bring on the prawn sandwiches"

ok wasent shearer grabbing silvestre's arm while he was trying to get across the goal to head the ball ?

You forget, the sheep shearer does no wrong.

He's innocent I tell ya!:D

yeh yeh just because hes ex england

*sees a bias ;) :p

*Oops. Forget to say I was being totally and utterly sarcastic.

I really do hate Shearer. It made me larf yesterday. :D

Duff, Crespo and Mutu are class players with bags of football intelligence. I can firmly say the Chelsea team are gelling quite well with further improvements on the way. Chelsea are a credible title challenger. Man U must be seriously looking over their shoulder at Stamford Bridge. I would say Chelsea v Man U would be the most intrigueing game this season. Both teams are evenly match.

Undisputedtruth

Again, Man Utd offsides their way to victory.... when will the backhanders officials take ever stop ??? :p

I'm waiting for the day when you lot watch one of RVN's penalties and call it 'offside'..... :D

Whilst I disagree that Chelsea are anywhere near being serious title contenders, their 2 games against United certainly will make interesting viewing.