would you buy longhorn (windows 2005/6)
 

i would only buy the new windows thats coming out if it wasnt ridden with all this DRM crap that they are talking about.....


unless they make it really cheap and software really cheap only way id be willing to accept it having DRM.


If they get to control what apps will run then they gotta make their apps cheap i mean like 20quid for office.


if they riddle it with DRM then i guess i'll either get a mac or go to linux

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What is DRM?

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I'd buy it because it's going to be 64-bit and I'm looking forward to using the full capabilities of my CPU. :)

EDIT: DRM is Digital Rights Management, usually refers to a form of copyright protection and ensures that media can only be played on one machine with the correct license.

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I won't be buying it. I won't be buying XP either. 2000 Pro all the way for me :)

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I may do. Having tried it out, it looks a lot different but there are a lot of things that don't actually work yet.

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Yep.

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Expected to see this in the humor thread!

I'll buy it but only to keep within support - so about 18 months after release - I'll then only upgrade once XP goes out of extended support which I have access too

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Would rather go Linux!

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Drm digital rights management

means they can control what runs how many computers it runs on how many times u can copy it or somit.

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I think once XP becomes obsolete (About 6 years time?) I'll do the same, Linux is so nice to use but I can't be bothered learning some of the more complex features at the moment to justify the switch. Basicly I'll let microsoft force my hand on this one, there is no way im going with an OS with features like DRM.

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know what u mean, played with linux a few times and its a nice os but installing things can be a real nightmare dependancys are hell.

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i will probably upgrade to it one day, but if past experiences are anything to go on then it will take m$ a long time to plug all of the security holes and get it stable.

If i am satisfied that longhorn is worth paying out for then i will do, but from what i have seen so far, apart from winFS i haven't seen great differences between xp and longhorn.

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Satisfied with Windows XP thankyou.

May consider it when most software specifications require it installed.

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Nope... don't want to and don't plan to. Of course, the missus really wears the trousers in our house, and she may decide otherwise, but, personally I'd much rather dump Windows and use Linux permanently.

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Yeah. I think M$ have also said that some of the features which were going to be "Longhorn only" will actually be made available for XP too, so XP should have a bit more life left in it.

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lol if i wan gonna get it might just get a shop bought desktop pc

i used to custom build but tbh i dont play as much games i used to.

the ironic thing is it prob wont cost much more to buy a whole new pc with the windows on it than to buy windows alone.

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I voted "no"!

Linux is far better than windows, IMO, and by the time longhorn is actually released, I hope that the linux distributions out there will actually be easier to use, and so will therefore be more accessible to more users than before. :)

I have had SuSE on this PC for about four months now, and only ever use windows for games. Saying that, however, I have got half life and warcraft 3 working from inside linux now, so I use windows even less often :tu:

Microsoft may be a huge corporate empire at the moment, but history has shown that even the biggest empires will fall - I mean, fifty years ago, Stalin ruled Russia, an empire of millions, but 150 years before that, Russia was called Muscovy and it was essentially a bunch of farms with no organisation and got beaten up by the big player of the day... Sweden!

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PS: shouldn't the poll have options for "yes, and it will be a legal copy" / "yes, it will be an evaluation copy" / or just "no" ;)

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What a bizarre comparison to draw, when was Stalin a corporation?

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Definately not...

I have XP at home, and use that purely for games.. For all other stuff, I use linux.

I don't have a 64bit Proc, and if I did, I would run Solaris X86 on it....

I personally consider windows to be a liability, is is insecure, and because it is so prevelant, and often used by people with little or no knowledge of computers (i.e. true "users" ) it will always be the platform of choice for hackers, virus writers, etc.

I do use it for games, but if RON, CIVIII HL/HL2/CS etc were ported to linux - I would do away with it forever...

(bear in mind I am a unix techie - therefore I know how to configure/harden unix and unix like operating systems..)

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yeah, sorry, i found an old history book in my room the other day whilst clearing stuff out ;)

lol, stalin was never a corporation, but my point was that microsoft are pretty much invincible at the moment, but things can change very easily, just like russia went from disorganisation, to a superpower, and now back to disorganisation again. i was just trying to highlight it in a colourful way ;)

external forces are an issue, but internal forces can also be a problem - phenomena such as "groupthink" (where highly intelligent, able, and skilled leaders of powerful groups end up making horrifically bad decisions) have a role to play as well.

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Sorry, still not making sense, because Microsoft dominate the market for consumer operating systems, pretty much all other consumer software is geared to work on Windows only, so nothing is going to change quickly, if they're going to lose their crown it'll be a (very) long drawn out process.

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yeah, that's why i chose russia as an example, 'cos it took like 150 years for a total turnround .. so we will probably have to wait for windows 2100 before the end is even nearly in sight ;)

(that's presuming our species lasts that long, of course!)

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This poll/thread should be titled 'use' not 'buy' ...same amount of characters but mean totally different things ;)

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I wouldn't buy it but I would download it from MSDN when it is released..... ;) ;)

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If there is any of that TCPA DRM stuff in, then M$ can go and sling their hook 'cos I won't use/pay for something that I don't have control over.

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yep i would. although i use my mac nearly all the time i would still buy for windows laptop and desktop.

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Still want to buy longhorn? Make sure you've got a video card that supports SM2.0

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20691

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Im am subscribed to action pack so will just wait for it to pop through the door, then load when/if someone tells me its got killer features, which at the moment the lack of winFS seems to make it pointless

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3D Interface? WTF?

I wonder if that would work well...

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Will I buy Longhorn? No. Will it be on my computer? Probably ;)

Or maybe by the time it comes out I'll have a Mini Mac, and become one of those fanboys who constantly harp on about how crap Windows is...

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Yep, I always thought that WinFS was the most interesting new feature of Longhorn.... not interesting enough to make me buy it, but to make me look at it. Now, it looks like it's not even ready :D :D :D

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These features have always been configurable even in the first version released to some (few) sites. I've been tempted to install the latest flavour for a while now - This thread might just point me to do that!

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lol was thinking the same thing... however i doubt itd go anywhere near my machine, especially with any DRM... I'll happily go to linux, full time, i currently dualboot suse with my xp...

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DRM :( mini mac is becoming all more appealing to me ;)

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Now I remember what inspired me to try linux ages ago, the threat of DRM :mad: Ive got a spare 40GB drive here and an extra IDE slot so I may well give linux a try again now :)

And 3D interface sounds all well and good but sureley its just a bigger strain on your system that you could do without in the first place? Isnt the operating system just meant to be the core wich links you to other things on your system that will in turn take up resources, not hog all the resources to itself?

I remember for a long time staying with Win 95 when windows 98 was released, then upgrading to 98SE when ME was released. I normally stay one step behind microsoft, I didnt even upgrade to ME, I only ever had one stable instalation of this and even that didnt last more than 4-5months. I upgraded to win 2k about 1 month before XP's release and didnt like it so went back to 98SE, then a hardware upgrade forced me to take on a more advanced OS so I went with 2k (I wasnt even willing to touch XP with a bargepole), win2k turned out to be one of my favorite OS microsoft have ever come up with as it doesnt automatically asume its user is an idiot (took a lot of tweaking at first to get XP to behave itself).
As a rule I like to keep all my machines on the same OS and when I got my new laptop (august last year) and I found that the video and sound where not supported in win 2k I decided I would stick with XP. After a little bit of tweaking on the laptop I decided it was worth a try moving upto XP on my other machines and Ive been quite happy ever since. Though I actually kept my main machine with win 2k for quite some time afterwards until a hardware incompatibility forced me to upgrade again :)

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I have been using Fedora 32 Bit for a couple of weeks and I can't understand how anyone could fail to love it, 20 minutes to install, including partitioning and formatting 4 disks, and after installation I have 90% of all the applications I will need all ready to go.
I am down to one Windows application which I need which will not run under CrossOver Office, I have to have Windows installed for ONE application. Since using Fedora I cannot stand Windows anymore, how I wish I could be shut of it completely.

Last night I installed the 64 Bit version of Fedora, love it, but I still have to have Windows dual boot for that one application... Ah well, can't have everything.

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never used linux, but when I move I think I shall install a copy I can aquire, ;) and see what the fuss is about.

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Just another post to make me on 900 ;) .

Also anyone got screenshots of the Longhorn in working? as sadly I have never got a working copy.

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I don't like the looks on Longhorn. Far too much blue :erm:

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Untill I have a home PC that would take advantage of 64 bit applications, I would have no need for Longhorn. Equally until there are 64 bit applications that need Longhorn, and that I need, why line M$ pockets. We seem to be on an ever upwards spiral of computing, when realistically, the vast majority of us can now do more than we actually want to.

At my office we've recently upgraded to XP based Windoze and Office 2k3. Office 97 and Win 98 did fine for us for many years. I expect the current platform will do the same. In fact many users are still comfortable with thei win 98 based systems. It's only when M$ get to the point of saying no more patches that we might have to move forward again. That I suspect will mean the longhorn platform will by then have been superceded. If it hasn't M$ will no doubt be having a problem of marketing old software which would never do.

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I will probably stick with XP as long as humanly possible unless there is a way to "remove" the DRM ;) If it even effects me that is. But I have to say the way things are going, I will probably become a full time Linux bod. :)

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What's the deal with the huge clock on those screenshots? As well as having it in the toolbar...? I know it's only a question of aesthetics so would be configurable with a few clicks, but I need something to moan about ;)

edit: after looking at these again, I think my problem is not just with the clock, but the whole huge taskbar that takes up far too much space in those shots I saw. I prefer minimalism for desktops ;)

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I think there are lots of new skinning things that can do stuff like the clock, as well as hardware monitors on the desktop and so on... I downloaded some, but I wasn't impressed. I know it's a coincidence, but they are a lot like superkaramba which is an excellent and very popular visual candy app on linux ;)

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I recommend Samurize for Windows for skinning it allows you to create a customized Dock with lots of tools on.

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QFT :)

WinFS is nice, but not really that interesting tbh. Avalon and Aero are much more exciting, Avalon will be ported over to WinXP and Win2003, but Aero will stay exclusive to Longhorn.

Those screens are from an early build, don't expect the final release to look anything like that ;)

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Thanks Bifta :tu:

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QFT?

What are Avalon and Aero?

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Quote For Truth ;)

Avalon is a "new graphical subsystem that enables not only richer control design and development, but it also relies heavily on a vector-based system instead of the more common pixel-based one."

Aero is the new GUI powered by DirectX

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I won't be buying the new version, I'm switching to linux.

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Im staying XP, I am gonna hold strong here till we have longhorn sp99 or something stupid to fix with all the crap that HAS to go wrong with this NEW improved system.

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I'll evaluate it @ work as part of our volume license agreement. If it's any good I'll have it on my home box.