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scrotnig 30-09-2004 22:06

90 days tomorrow
 
Well, it's been a long time since the initial announcement of my impending redundancy, however, tomorrow (Friday) is the day we actually get formally placed onto 90 days notice :(

My previous experience of this suggests it's all downhill from here. The end is now nigh, it is certainly the end of an era.

Last time I got gardening leave, this time that won't happen, at least not immediately. Some big decisions then have to be taken......

bopdude 30-09-2004 22:11

Re: 90 days tomorrow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark B
Well, it's been a long time since the initial announcement of my impending redundancy, however, tomorrow (Friday) is the day we actually get formally placed onto 90 days notice :(

My previous experience of this suggests it's all downhill from here. The end is now nigh, it is certainly the end of an era.

Last time I got gardening leave, this time that won't happen, at least not immediately. Some big decisions then have to be taken......

Sorry to hear that mate :(

scrotnig 30-09-2004 22:20

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Thanks.....

I can stay with the firm if I want to, as I have another role to go to, albeit with crappy shifts.

The question over the next 90 days is...do I want to....??

dilli-theclaw 30-09-2004 22:25

Re: 90 days tomorrow
 
I don't know what to say to things like this...

But - um - it sure sucks and I hope it all comes out ok for you.

Florence 30-09-2004 22:28

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You have had a raw deal Mark and talking from a customerââ‚à ƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s point of view. We have been lucky to have you here working hard to help sort out our problems. NTL don't realise what an asset you are to the company. I hope you find what you are looking for but please stay around the forums. We are grateful and care about you and would like to know you are alright.

If you do decide to stay within the company I am sure something better will crop up. They can't keep making people redundant and have an efficient service. Sooner or later something has to go and when the muck hits the fan I would hope you are here to enjoy it with us.

scrotnig 30-09-2004 22:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
I don't know what to say to things like this...

But - um - it sure sucks and I hope it all comes out ok for you.

Thanks.

It isn't a shock, regular readers of my drama-queenesque outpourings over recent months will know that this was entirely expected, as we forewarned about it in April. However, I sort of hoped it might drag over to the new year, and in any event it's still a sad moment, even when you already know it's coming.

scrotnig 30-09-2004 22:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kits
You have had a raw deal Mark and talking from a customerââ‚à ƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s point of view. We have been lucky to have you here working hard to help sort out our problems. NTL don't realise what an asset you are to the company. I hope you find what you are looking for but please stay around the forums. We are grateful and care about you and would like to know you are alright.

If you do decide to stay within the company I am sure something better will crop up. They can't keep making people redundant and have an efficient service. Sooner or later something has to go and when the muck hits the fan I would hope you are here to enjoy it with us.

Thanks Kits. I am certain I'll still be around in some form even if I leave the company, though i can't judge that for certain until that situation actually happens. I get quite attached to whatever job I do, and leaving is always a wrench, even if it's for something better. In some ways I still 'miss' the job I had prior to joining ntl in 2001, a bit ridiculous but I do try to give my all to a job so it's sad to leave it behind.

Of course, I may well be staying with my current employers, but it still won't be 'the same' as what I do now.....

gooner4life 30-09-2004 23:52

Re: 90 days tomorrow
 
Likewise for me, however I am off sick with an abcess under a broken tooth which has caused a constant migraine since sunday :(

Mark what office are you in?

scrotnig 30-09-2004 23:58

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Originally Posted by gooner4life
Likewise for me, however I am off sick with an abcess under a broken tooth which has caused a constant migraine since sunday :(

Mark what office are you in?

Manchester. We are the ONLY department in Manchester getting the chop.

gooner4life 01-10-2004 00:17

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Originally Posted by Mark B
Manchester. We are the ONLY department in Manchester getting the chop.

Ouch, im in Luton were all going apart from 'Collections' or accounts as they are more commonly known.

Good luck for the future fella, im sure this abcess on my tooth is brought on from the stress of it all, im daddy to a 5 week old baby and this is so the wrong time :(

Florence 01-10-2004 07:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gooner4life
Ouch, im in Luton were all going apart from 'Collections' or accounts as they are more commonly known.

Good luck for the future fella, im sure this abcess on my tooth is brought on from the stress of it all, im daddy to a 5 week old baby and this is so the wrong time :(

Anytime is soo the wrong time especially when customers have to wait for 60 mins to get tech support....

Also if they outsource to India then they would be shooting themselves as I have regular contact with a call center in India and they cannot say our towns correctly and try to arrange for me to do mystery shops in areas that are too far for me to travel to without a petrol allowence which they don't pay. :shrug:

Derek 01-10-2004 09:10

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Myself, Darthyoda and a couple of other posters on here are in the same boat but a different office.

It's been coming for a loooong time but still a bit of a downer (till tonight when the local pub takings will sky rocket)

Stephen 01-10-2004 09:50

Re: 90 days tomorrow
 
Yep just had my meeting informing me that the end of the world as I know it will be taking place in 90 days. See you in the pub tonight then dezzo:D

gooner4life 01-10-2004 10:01

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I like the way we have to work over Christmas knowing the job is going nowhere :(

29th of December lol

KevAmiga 01-10-2004 10:03

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Feel sorry for you guys, we were lucky down here in the TSB we got outsourced.. but now there is the indian call centre one has only got to wonder how long it will be untill every person calling 0845 tech support will speak to some indian guy. Its a sad state of affairs, you gotta wonder if NTL actually stop and think before they do things like this to people that have supported and held this company high for the last few years, through the good times and the bad. Something tells me that the NTL patriotic customers are not going to like it one bit... and i sure dont like it. It just puts a glimmer of hope in me to look back at all the other companies that have outsourced to india and its all fallen flat on their faces.

I want NTL to succeed, but I hate this outsourcing crap. It never works. And id love to see NTL getting back to a full UK workforce.

Just my 2p's worth.

Kev

GazzaB 01-10-2004 10:13

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I feel for you Mark B I really do, I'm on my last month of 90 days notice with Ntl in the Nottingham office. Ntl is really loosing some valuable staff but doesn't really seem to be particularly bothered!
4 years of some highs and lows are coming to an end which is sad and it's horrible to say it but I hope things go pear shaped for the upper management in Ntl because they don't care at all that is quite clear. To those staff that are transfering departments/staying on then Good luck I think you will need it!

:Yikes: :Yikes:

scrotnig 01-10-2004 10:37

Re: 90 days tomorrow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gooner4life
I like the way we have to work over Christmas knowing the job is going nowhere :(

29th of December lol

We have been more fortunate in that regard, we have been told that although we technically need to work over Christmas, the plan is that we'll finish before then.

scrotnig 01-10-2004 10:42

Re: 90 days tomorrow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GazzaB
I feel for you Mark B I really do, I'm on my last month of 90 days notice with Ntl in the Nottingham office. Ntl is really loosing some valuable staff but doesn't really seem to be particularly bothered!
4 years of some highs and lows are coming to an end which is sad and it's horrible to say it but I hope things go pear shaped for the upper management in Ntl because they don't care at all that is quite clear. To those staff that are transfering departments/staying on then Good luck I think you will need it!

:Yikes: :Yikes:

Good luck Gazza!

I take it you're not redeploying? My former boss here is now a manager in Nottingham, she is recruiting I believe and she's a very fair manager, I enjoyed working for her and will be forever grateful to her for giving me the chances that she did.

GazzaB 01-10-2004 11:12

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Thanks Mark, Unfortunately there is no similar replacement role for me here. Nottingham is now specialist in collections and telemarketing, neither of these roles appeal. I assume the manager you had has gone to one of these departments?

scrotnig 01-10-2004 11:16

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Originally Posted by GazzaB
Thanks Mark, Unfortunately there is no similar replacement role for me here. Nottingham is now specialist in collections and telemarketing, neither of these roles appeal. I assume the manager you had has gone to one of these departments?

Yes, I believe she's running the new-look Collections down there. She's done collections before so will be ideally suited.

I believe it's also a promotion for her. I hope she does really well, as she was fantastic up here.

scrotnig 01-10-2004 13:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark B
Yes, I believe she's running the new-look Collections down there. She's done collections before so will be ideally suited.

I believe it's also a promotion for her. I hope she does really well, as she was fantastic up here.

I have to say, I am absolutely devastated at the news, and, if I DO decide to leave, I just don't know how I am going to cope financially.
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scrotnig 01-10-2004 18:22

Re: 90 days tomorrow
 
Well, that's that done and dusted.

We're encouraged not to be bothered by this news, after all we've known since April and all of us have either got new jobs within ntl, or have decided to take the money and run...a formal decision on which I have yet to take.

Nonetheless, an era is coming to an end. Regardless of everything else, I enjoy working for ntl and I have really enjoyed my curent role. It's reasonably paid, interesting, satisfying, and the shifts are great.

I may enjoy my new role if I decide to stay, but that doesn't alter the fact that this, for me, is a very sad and upsetting time. Last time ntl made me redundant, it didn't really amtter as I'd only been there four months and had no 'affinity' with the company. After three and a half years you know the company inside out, you know its foibles, you know how it works, you understand it and in fact, whether you like it or not, you become a part of it...and to a degree, it also becomes a part of you.

So it's sad, very sad, and I make no apologies tonight for shedding a metaphorical tear at the passing of my current job, and possibly, the passing of my entire employment with ntl.

I've been in this situation twice before, once with a national pizza company which I was an openings manager for, the company was quite quirky (as is ntl, I always seem to work for quirky companies!) and abruptly got sold to a rival. Then again with a supermarket chain for whom I was a department manager and my job 'went'.

Both occasions were sad, and both occasions resulted in my leaving a job I didn't want to give up.

People tell me, whatever happens, it'll be a new era of my life and I will probably enjoy it as much if not more. That may be so, however none of that alters the huge sadness at the ending of something in this way.

homealone 01-10-2004 18:38

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summed up very well, in my opinion. I have only been made redundant once, (so far), & in similar fashion to yourselves, we knew about it well in advance of any statutory notice period.

I found it a very strange experience, it was a job I enjoyed, with a benevolent employer & amazingly, everyone (the whole site was sold off), got on with their jobs & behaved in a very loyal fashion, even though we were being dumped.

It was very sad when the final days came, but the worst thing was losing touch with colleagues, as, although a lot of them carried on working for the firm that took the site over, some others took the money & moved on.

So, anyway, I sympathise with how you all must be feeling and can only hope, whatever happens, it will lead to better things in the future.

etccarmageddon 01-10-2004 19:57

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Originally Posted by Mark B
...Nonetheless, an era is coming to an end...

I hope you find your smile cos you sound pretty down.

Maggy 01-10-2004 20:01

Re: 90 days tomorrow
 
Come and be a teacher! We have such a shortage in certain subjects like Maths and Technology.You sound such a dedicated worker with shedloads of enthusiasm and a real people person and ntl's loss would be our gain. :tu:


Incog. :D


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