Urgent processor help needed asap
 

Hi,

Bad start to my day as Ive got a mail saying my processor isnt in stock anymore.
So I'm looking elswhere for the same processor, an Intel P4 Northwood. 3.4Ghz.
Heres the original product I wanted:

Overclockers: Out of stock:

Intel Pentium 4 "Northwood" 3.4GHz (800FSB) with HT Technology - Retail (CP-049-IN)
The new Intel® Pentium ® 4 processor at 3.4GHz with an advanced 800 MHz system bus offers higher levels of performance, creativity and productivity. Based on Intel® NetBurstââ€à ƒâ€¦Ã‚¾Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ microarchitecture and built with Intel's 0.13-micron technology, the Pentium 4 processor delivers significant performance gains for use in home computing, business solutions and all your processing needs. The Pentium 4 processor at 3.4GHz with an advanced 800 MHz system bus also supports Hyper-Threading Technology, enabling you to multitask more efficiently when you run demanding applications at the same time.
This full retail Intel product is supplied with Intel Heatsink and Fan and has a 3 year warranty.


Full Specification

Price: £199.95 (£234.9 4 Including VAT at 17.5%)


Now I found this one on Ebuyer: (Click below for Spec)

Is this the same one

I need to find the exact same CPU as soon as possible.
Its has to be a Northwood 3.4Ghz.

Thanks.

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Yes, it is the same one.

http://www.cpspc.com/inbxpe3ghzfs2.html

(same manufacturers code)

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The product code that Ebyer uses (BX80532PG3400D ) is indeed the northwood 3.4 chip :)

edit - Dang - Bifta beat me to it ;)

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Excellent. If this was a pub, I'd buy you both a drink.
Thanks again.

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Another problem has arrived.
Everywhere I seem to look has this OUT OF STOCK.
With all my other equipment on its way I really neeed to get hold of this chip.
Does anyone know where I can buy it and its IN STOCK ?

Thanks for any help you can give me.

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Scan is reporting that it has stock.. you could try them
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=122950

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thats a socket 775 - he wants 478:-

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=119884

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Thats the Prescott, I need the Northwood.
I'm dooomed. I know it. I just knew this would go wrong !!!

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just done a search - the only place I can see that has them in stock is AMAZON - and they are ridiculously expensive.

also try : http://www.tradeprice.co.uk/categori...p?Cat=AD&sub=1

HTH

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Trade price has 1 in stock.
Anyone know if they are good ? Are they all brand new ?

This the one ?

http://www.tradeprice.co.uk/viewprod...?Show=12000139

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why not save some money and get the 3.2ghz from overclockers

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I cant see any difference - they both have the same FSB GHZ and cache sizes etc? are you sure there is such a thing as a northwood 3.4?

ok, just checked overclockers and there is a different 3.4 processor called northwood and it's out of stock!

how bloody confusing - what's the flaming difference?

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yes, definately...

halcyon -

never used them - but they should be ok (couple of mates have used them), also they still have warranty on the kit, so any issues, you can send it back :D

Judging by how hard they are to get, I suggest you snap it up whilst it is in stock ;)

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the prescott shows on the intel web site as the 'extreme edition' so shirely this means it's better?

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here's another shop but they dont say if it's a prescott or northwood chip.

http://www.startcomputing.co.uk/Pric...iceList_2.asp?[GroupID]=79

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Right Il go for the Trade website one then.
Is that Ok. Im not making a big mistake am I ?

Reason Im not going for Prescott is becuase there have been problems with prescotts and getting them to work on this board and that you need to put in another chip first to boot, then your prescott chip.

Anyway, all that aside, Im Ok to go and buy the one from here yep?

http://www.tradeprice.co.uk/viewprod...?Show=12000139


Once I get green light from you guys I'l place my order for it.
Thanks a million everyone. Green reps coming your way.

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The Extreme Edition's codename is "Gallatin", which is a "Northwood" core with 2MB of L3 cache, both are built on the 130nm process and have 512KB L2 cache. The "Prescott" core is a 90nm process chip with 1MB L2 cache.

I think Intel are in the process of changing the Extreme Edition, as it will be based on the "Prescott" core later.

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if you buy on the internet I'd recommend using your credit card and remember DISTANCE SELLING LAWS!!! if you want to return it you can do for a full refund provided it's within 7 days (check that though) - if they attempt to charge a restocking fee or refuse to take a return then speak to trading standards.

http://www.dti.gov.uk/ccp/topics1/ecomm.htm

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Right, Im ordering.
May luck be with me as I have a tendancy of messing things up most of the time.
Il get back to you all soon.

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May the Force be with you :)

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are you sure you're sure it's the right one?

£200 is a lot of money!

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Yeah its around the same price for the same one on overclockers (thats out of stock).

http://www.tradeprice.co.uk/viewprod...?Show=12000139

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What motherboard are you using?

What are the differenced between the Northwood and Prescott chips?

:confused:

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:)

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Asus p4c 800-E Deluxe

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you might find useful info on this site re your motherboard's alledged problems with the prescott chip:-

http://www.tomshardware.com/index.html

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Yeah i know about the problems, hence Im going for the Northwood.

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UPDATE:

Still havent bought the CPU as it seems to say it doesnt come with a fan.
Could someone please tell me if this will be OK as I am pulling my hair out and going insane and I'd appreciate another quick check of the Spec by someone.

It has to be able to fit a socket 478 motherboard: Asus p4c800E deluxe. And it seems there is no fan?

http://www.tradeprice.co.uk/viewprod...?Show=12000139

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as far as I know when you buy a 'retail' version you are paying more but you get a pretty box and a fan included. when you buy OEM (original equipment manufacturer) you just get the chip and have to buy your own fan.

OEM versions are meant for system builders.

that one you have the link for is a 'retail' so I'd expect a fan to be included... but if there isnt you should be able to source one for a few pounds.

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It does come with a fan as its retail and here is the bit you seem to have missed:

Package TypeIntel Boxed
Included AccessoriesHeat sink, cooler (fansink)

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The "Prescott" core also has a 31 stage pipeline vs the 20 stage pipeline found in the "Northwood" and "Gallatin" cores, which is the main reason why they have a higher IPC than "Prescott" in most app's at the same clock speed. "Prescott" was also manufactured using strained silicon, which is the main reason it runs hotter than its "Northwood" counterpart.

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So the one Im about to order (RIGHT NOW) is a northwood then from tradedirect?


http://www.tradeprice.co.uk/viewprod...?Show=12000139

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YES :cool:

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Right, well, THATS IT FOLKS !

Its all gone through and its all ordered.
That CPU certainly did decide to cause me hell today but I've finally ordered it from Tradeprice.co.uk and it should arrive in the next few days.

I'd like to thank you all that contributed in helping me with my system build over the past few weeks and I really do appreciate it.
You've all beeen great.

Now I face the challenge of building and Im sure its going to be a nerve racking experience, but also a learning experience where I'l see how things work.

Thanks again,

Tim (Halcyon)

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I was thinking of getting that board and a Prescott processor. Now that I've heard of the compatability problems with the BIOS and motherboard out of the box I'm slightly put off by the idea of getting a Prescott. Plus all the issues with it consuming more juice, running hotter and slower in some cases.

No wonder all Northwood processors are out of stock everywhere!

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Whoa! Steady there :D

I actually think Prescott is the better processor, if it's configured [read: overclocked and cooled] properly. Check out my 3DMark05 CPU score and see for yourself ;)

Had no problems either, except I couldn't boot into Windows with the default BIOS. Lucky for me, I downloaded the latest BIOS before I built the new system. This thing overclocks like a charm too, 3.6GHz on air cooling with a Zalman copper heatsink and 8cm Vantec Tornado fan.

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Is it all installed and running yet?

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Nearly sorted.
Just installing remiaining components today and buying the new monitor tommorow.
So should be up and running by Friday I hope.

Out of all the companies I bought from, SPD, Overclockers, Micron, and Crucial, were excellent for delivery.
Ebuyer however are the slowest online sellers I've ever met.
Im waiting for the graphics card this morning so hopefully it will arrive in the next hour or so.

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I doubt if I will be wanting to overclock my processor. Will the heatsink, fan and supplied thermal paste/pad with Prescott processors hack the high heat though?

I don't wish to have fried processor with motherboard on the side :D ;)