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Chris 30-09-2004 10:27

Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3701640.stm

Not that anybody here looks at internet p0rn, of course. :)

Stuart 30-09-2004 10:36

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Of course not...

*backs away from thread quietly :Sprint: .

dilli-theclaw 30-09-2004 10:37

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
None on here :)..... honest :)

Gareth 30-09-2004 10:41

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Heh, and it's the sort of infection that even natural yoghurt won't clear up!

bopdude 30-09-2004 10:47

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
:Yikes: OMFG when will it end ??, never !!! How many more nastys can we expect, the article mentions making sure all machines are full patched and that sp2 is installed, i'm not keen on installing sp2 after some of the storys i've heard. It also says that it only afects machines if the pics are opened in IE, sooooo here comes firefox me thinks. :confused:

Nugget 30-09-2004 10:51

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Well, it's always left me sweaty and light-headed ;)

Stuart 30-09-2004 11:37

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Of course, mac users don't have this problem... :D Not meaning to start the Mac vs PC debate again...

Edit: Bop, Microsoft do have a patch for XP SP1.. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS04-028.mspx

Chris 30-09-2004 11:44

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scastle
Of course, mac users don't have this problem... :D Not meaning to start the Mac vs PC debate again...

Yes, and in this case it's difficult to trot out the usual 'everybody else is just as bad, it's just that M$ is more popular so more viruses get written/exploits get found' excuse.

The fact is, JPEG is a globally adopted standard, handled by oodles of OSes and apps around the world - but it is only the way M$ handles it that causes a problem.

In this case, however, to head off a Mac/PC flame war, I will be happy to point out that if folks stick with Windoze, but head off to www.mozilla.org and get themselves a Firefox browser and Thunderbird email client, they might just save themselves a world of pain once this little exploit starts to turn up embedded in emails or on the kinds of respectable website we visit regularly.

Jon M 30-09-2004 11:54

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Re: Emails... another good reason to turn off HTML altogether within any mail program, there is simply no use for it. It is terrible net-ettiquette to fire anything other than plain text at people.. anything other than that and you've no idea how it might come out at the other end... or whether it will at all ( Lotus Notes :mad: )

Stuart 30-09-2004 11:55

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris T
In this case, however, to head off a Mac/PC flame war, I will be happy to point out that if folks stick with Windoze, but head off to www.mozilla.org and get themselves a Firefox browser and Thunderbird email client, they might just save themselves a world of pain once this little exploit starts to turn up embedded in emails or on the kinds of respectable website we visit regularly.

Or maybe even Opera (http://www.opera.com), which I consider a better browser than Firefox..

bopdude 30-09-2004 12:16

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scastle
Of course, mac users don't have this problem... :D Not meaning to start the Mac vs PC debate again...

Edit: Bop, Microsoft do have a patch for XP SP1.. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS04-028.mspx

Cheers mate, installed now, still don't know whethere to ditch IE though :confused: BIG think about it me thinks :)

SOSAGES 30-09-2004 12:18

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
if i had a penny for every time u lads said use a different browser id have 69 p :)

anyway
https://my.infotex.com/article.php?s...40914224837676 etc one of many until they are patched, much like IE- want to be safe unplug your modem:)

bopdude 30-09-2004 12:24

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SOSAGES
want to be safe unplug your modem :)

:Yikes: :shocked: In the old days you could have been given a 100 lashes for even thinking that kind of nonsense ;) :D

Ramrod 30-09-2004 12:33

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scastle
Or maybe even Opera (http://www.opera.com), which I consider a better browser than Firefox..

Is it free?

bopdude 30-09-2004 13:17

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
Is it free?

I belive so, you can find it here

Stephen 30-09-2004 13:21

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Yes it is free although it has a small advert that runs at the top of the page, you can pay to remove it though. I have used it for years and think opera is by far the best browser around.

Ramrod 30-09-2004 13:47

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthYoda
Yes it is free although it has a small advert that runs at the top of the page, you can pay to remove it though. I have used it for years and think opera is by far the best browser around.

Can you install google toolbar on it?

Stuart 30-09-2004 13:48

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
Is it free?

There is a "free" version, but it displays ads in the toolbar. Not too intrusive though and AFAIK doesn't spy on you.

Stuart 30-09-2004 13:49

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
Can you install google toolbar on it?

No, but there is a google search option on the toolbar.

Ramrod 30-09-2004 13:49

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
I take it that ( re. this latest jpeg threat) as long as IE is fully patched and you are running up to date AV there is no real risk? Anyone have any thoughts?
Quote:

Originally Posted by scastle
No, but there is a google search option on the toolbar.

Ah.....probem then. I love google toolbar, wouldn't be without it!.......Thats the problem with firefox as well!

bopdude 30-09-2004 13:53

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scastle
No, but there is a google search option on the toolbar.

Does opera have built in pop up stopper as google does ? Must have a look at it, see if there's a mobile version .............. be right back :)

Stuart 30-09-2004 14:23

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude
Does opera have built in pop up stopper as google does ? Must have a look at it, see if there's a mobile version .............. be right back :)

Yes, it does. To use it, go to "Tools", "Quick preferences" then select the type of pop-up blocking you want.

Stuart 30-09-2004 14:25

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
I take it that ( re. this latest jpeg threat) as long as IE is fully patched and you are running up to date AV there is no real risk? Anyone have any thoughts?
Ah.....probem then. I love google toolbar, wouldn't be without it!.......Thats the problem with firefox as well!

I suspect that if Google develop a toolbar for Firefox (and they are apparently considering it), it'll work in Opera and Nutscrape as well, as they all use the Netscape plugins..

Stephen 30-09-2004 15:03

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
opera has a built in pop up blocker.

SMHarman 30-09-2004 15:15

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude
Cheers mate, installed now, still don't know whethere to ditch IE though :confused: BIG think about it me thinks :)

Fine until your internet banking applications won't run on it (and the palava of transferring security certificates).

bopdude 30-09-2004 15:22

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bopdude
Cheers mate, installed now, still don't know whethere to ditch IE though :confused: BIG think about it me thinks :)


Quote:

Originally Posted by smharman
Fine until your internet banking applications won't run on it (and the palava of transferring security certificates).

Sorry :confused: I meant have installed the patch not Opera, well not at this stage without reading / finding out more :tu:

SMHarman 30-09-2004 15:40

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude
Quote:
Originally Posted by bopdude
Cheers mate, installed now, still don't know whethere to ditch IE though :confused: BIG think about it me thinks :)


Sorry :confused: I meant have installed the patch not Opera, well not at this stage without reading / finding out more :tu:

:dunce: Patching of Office is a bit of a nightmare as you need to have all the install disks, I could find the Office XP and Office 2000 disks for both my machines, but the FrontPage 2000 disk had gone awol (since found) and the patch would not install without it.

I think this is to verify you own the software?

Anyone would think MS had designed this bug so they could crack down on dodgy copies of the Office suite.

Aragorn 30-09-2004 16:20

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SMHarman
Patching of Office is a bit of a nightmare as you need to have all the install disks

All the Office patches come in two flavours - standard lite version and 'full file' version. The office update tool supplies the lite version which need the Office CD's, but if you open the MS security bulletin (more info link on Office update) you can download the full file version (no CD needed). Means you can't easily install multiple patches at once, but it helped me with this patch ;) HTH

Ramrod 30-09-2004 16:23

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SMHarman
:dunce: Patching of Office is a bit of a nightmare as you need to have all the install disks, I could find the Office XP and Office 2000 disks for both my machines, but the FrontPage 2000 disk had gone awol (since found) and the patch would not install without it.

I think this is to verify you own the software?.

I patched Mandys MS Office and it said I'd need the discs. Didn't get asked for them once! Id say you should try the patches for office and see if it asks for them......

SMHarman 30-09-2004 21:22

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aragorn
All the Office patches come in two flavours - standard lite version and 'full file' version. The office update tool supplies the lite version which need the Office CD's, but if you open the MS security bulletin (more info link on Office update) you can download the full file version (no CD needed). Means you can't easily install multiple patches at once, but it helped me with this patch ;) HTH

Only for the XP 02 and 03 versions. I have Office Pro 00 on my desktop and don't feel the need to pay the upgrade costs just yet.

Richard M 30-09-2004 22:42

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

VULNERABLE PROGRAMS
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Internet Explorer 6 SP1
Link to Firefox in sig... :rolleyes:

Chris 01-10-2004 08:33

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SMHarman
Fine until your internet banking applications won't run on it (and the palava of transferring security certificates).

Eh? I have successfully accessed both my online banking sites with three different browsers on my Mac at home (IE, Safari and now Firefox). Only Safari has ever been an issue - it went through a phase of not recognising the certifying authority on one of the sites. But that was a finite problem, months ago, and nothing to do with me switching browser (and it didn't stop me accessing my account, either). I think it's fair to say that using different browsers for online banking isn't a problem.

And I've never had to transfer a security certificate - what's that all about? :confused:

Gareth 01-10-2004 09:51

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Banking sites work fine for me too (except I keep on forgetting my passwords and the account gets disabled :dunce: ). I have a problem with an internal site I use at work, but that's cause the muppet that coded it didn't think about testing it with other browsers than IE :rolleyes:

SMHarman 01-10-2004 10:18

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris T
Eh? I have successfully accessed both my online banking sites with three different browsers on my Mac at home (IE, Safari and now Firefox). Only Safari has ever been an issue - it went through a phase of not recognising the certifying authority on one of the sites. But that was a finite problem, months ago, and nothing to do with me switching browser (and it didn't stop me accessing my account, either). I think it's fair to say that using different browsers for online banking isn't a problem.

And I've never had to transfer a security certificate - what's that all about? :confused:

I know M&T bank in the US does not support Safari, and looking at this http://www.ukbusiness.hsbc.com/publi...nk_reqts.jhtml HSBC does not in the UK (for Business at least). Don't ask, upgraded Motherinlaws mac to X.3 and iLife04, told her she was best to use Safari on this new platform and get called 3 days later as she cannot do any banking anymore. Yes bad programming by the bank, but how do you forsee these things. They make it work for 95% of people (which is pleasing almost all the people all of the time).

HSBC business banking requires a digital cert on the PC you log on from (most personal banking doesn't), so its a bit of red herring to post it here and way off topic anyway.

http://www.ukbusiness.hsbc.com/hsbc/...a-digital-cert

Their credit card virtual terminal (an on line swipe machine) also requires one.

Not sure about their personal banking, but the demo is windoze only
http://www.ukpersonal.hsbc.co.uk/hsb...m-requirements

Bifta 01-10-2004 11:00

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SMHarman
I know M&T bank in the US does not support Safari, and looking at this http://www.ukbusiness.hsbc.com/publi...nk_reqts.jhtml HSBC does not in the UK (for Business at least). Don't ask, upgraded Motherinlaws mac to X.3 and iLife04, told her she was best to use Safari on this new platform and get called 3 days later as she cannot do any banking anymore. Yes bad programming by the bank, but how do you forsee these things. They make it work for 95% of people (which is pleasing almost all the people all of the time).

HSBC business banking requires a digital cert on the PC you log on from (most personal banking doesn't), so its a bit of red herring to post it here and way off topic anyway.

http://www.ukbusiness.hsbc.com/hsbc/...a-digital-cert

Their credit card virtual terminal (an on line swipe machine) also requires one.

Not sure about their personal banking, but the demo is windoze only
http://www.ukpersonal.hsbc.co.uk/hsb...m-requirements

HSBC Personal banking doesn't.

Chris 01-10-2004 11:20

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GDW1975
Banking sites work fine for me too (except I keep on forgetting my passwords and the account gets disabled :dunce: ). I have a problem with an internal site I use at work, but that's cause the muppet that coded it didn't think about testing it with other browsers than IE :rolleyes:

A common issue in the poorly-funded world of the corporate intranet, I'm afraid. We took a conscious decision to code for IE only on ours, as there wasn't developer time enough to test for other browsers (and we have a single corporate software standard in any case). As a believer in web standards, it was hard for me to stomach, but sadly I'm an IT user, not a developer, so there was little I could do to influence that side of the development of it.

Ramrod 01-10-2004 11:46

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris T
A common issue in the poorly-funded world of the corporate intranet, I'm afraid. We took a conscious decision to code for IE only on ours, as there wasn't developer time enough to test for other browsers (and we have a single corporate software standard in any case). As a believer in web standards, it was hard for me to stomach, but sadly I'm an IT user, not a developer, so there was little I could do to influence that side of the development of it.

Talking of developers here is a utility that purports to make testing sites with different browsers easier.......scroll down and look at the 'View in' section
Quote:

View In ...
When developing websites (something I seem to be doing too much of lately!) checking the layout and visual appeal of the site in multiple browsers is a necessary evil. Copying the URL in the IE, firing off a Mozilla or FireFox session and then pasting in the URL is an annoyance when done occasionally. When its done a number of times in quick succession it can become a major pain.

To get around this when using one of the Mozilla based browsers a plugin, IEView, was written to make IE invocations faster and simpler. Unfortunately for me my current work place (at July 2004 anyway) is an IE only shop so the developers and designers are missing the two-click invocation of other browsers. Until now.

Below are four sets of links, each one adds functionality to IE that permits right- click invocation of a different browser. The versions tested while building were: Avant 9.02, FireFox .9, Mozilla 1.6b and Opera 7.51.

View in Avant Executable Zip file with source
View in FireFox Executable Zip file with source
View in Mozilla Executable Zip file with source
View in Opera Executable Zip file with source

Aragorn 01-10-2004 14:44

Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SMHarman
Only for the XP 02 and 03 versions. I have Office Pro 00 on my desktop and don't feel the need to pay the upgrade costs just yet.

Not sure about older patches, but the WordPerfect converter patch has an Office2000 fullfile version - bottom of attached link -

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

(Search MS Download for KB873380 if link doesn't work)

Of course there's no O2K patch for the JPEG problem.

HTH


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