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ewood 29-09-2004 01:07

E mail problem, Can You Help??
 
Hi, i'm trying to use Outlook 2003 Professional as my default e mail service but can't get round a problem. I have provided all the account information(pop, smtp, password etc) and when i test account settings all the boxes get ticked BUT the test message still goes to my Outlook Express and not my Outlook 2003 :mad: . Outlook 2003 is set up as my default e mail so i'm puzzled as to why my test message and any new e mails still go to my Outlook Express. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks in advance ;)

MovedGoalPosts 29-09-2004 01:20

Re: E mail problem, Can You Help??
 
:welcome: ewood to cable forum

Not an easy one to solve I suspect.

Presumably you are running Outlook 2003 when OE is not running. Do you have Outlook 2003 set in tools> options > send / recieve (send immediately when connected ticked) to include your account. and that auto send recieve is active? Is Outlook working online or offline (cached)?

Are you on dialup or broadband (cable or ADSL)?

ewood 29-09-2004 01:37

Re: E mail problem, Can You Help??
 
:) Thanks for the welcome and the reply MGP

All the things you suggest are as they should be and I'm on NTL Broadband. This problem has stumped people i know who usually sort stuff out for me so maybe it is a tricky one. I've got Nortons running, i don't know if that makes a difference

Marge 29-09-2004 01:51

Re: E mail problem, Can You Help??
 
When I changed mine I went into Add/Remove programmes and made sure it was set to use current programme not the Outlook Express in the Custom bit. Also check in Internet Options>Programs that it's selected in there too!

ewood 29-09-2004 02:00

Re: E mail problem, Can You Help??
 
Thanks Debsy. I've checked and 'Use my current e mail program' is ticked and Outlook Express is unticked. :confused:

nffc 29-09-2004 08:08

Re: E mail problem, Can You Help??
 
What is set in "Set Program Access and Defaults"?

soneill 29-09-2004 21:59

Re: E mail problem, Can You Help??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ewood
:) Thanks for the welcome and the reply MGP

All the things you suggest are as they should be and I'm on NTL Broadband. This problem has stumped people i know who usually sort stuff out for me so maybe it is a tricky one. I've got Nortons running, i don't know if that makes a difference

If Norton is set to scan incoming email it must intercept the messages somehow (I used to understand how on older versions but not on the current ones). Is it worth telling it to stop scanning email, save the settings and then reset to scan and see if it picks up the program change at that point?

ewood 29-09-2004 23:54

Re: E mail problem, Can You Help??
 
Hi Soneill, thanks for your suggestion. I did turn off the E Mail scan on my Nortons and sent myself the test message from my Outlook 2003 but it still went to my Outlook Express and continues to do so now i have turned the scan back on again. Would this show that my Norton's isn't the problem? :confused:

goldoni 30-09-2004 09:40

Re: E mail problem, Can You Help??
 
Silly me if I have missed the point but if you remove the accounts from OE it will not be able to pick the mail up. If you have both clients open OE will grab all the mail.

Regarding NAV it should have picked up when you installed Outlook but you could uninstall NAV and do a reboot, check your email client is working then reinstall NAV and it will then pickup the Outlook accounts.

ewood 30-09-2004 23:24

Re: E mail problem, Can You Help??
 
Thanks for taking the time and trouble Goldoni. I have tried your first suggestion previously without success. I removed the account from Outlook Express and then sent the test message from Outlook but still the message didn't arrive. When i returned the account details back into Outlook Express, lo and behold, the test message arrived in the inbox straight away:mad: I don't really want to uninstall my Nortons unless i am certain this is the problem. Thanks Again

Jez 03-10-2004 22:32

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Wouldn't uninstalling Outlook Express solve the problem? Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs > Add/Remove Windows Components ... I uninstalled OE when I was having trouble persuading mailto: links to use my email client instead of OE and that soon put a stop to it ... :)

greencreeper 03-10-2004 23:20

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:erm: I'm not sure what you mean, to be honest. Unless you tell Outlook Express to receive, or it's setup to check for emails every x minutes, it won't download any emails. Stop using Outlook Express and use Outlook instead - your emails will appear. It's a shot in the dark (because I don't fully understand your issue) but it could be that Outlook Express is marking emails as read, which is effecting Outlook - it ignores them. Dunno :shrug: IMHO Outlook isn't suitable for POP access - it works best as an exchange client.

ewood 04-10-2004 00:43

Re: E mail problem, Can You Help??
 
Thanks to Jez and Greencreeper for their replies. If i was to remove OE completely by uninstalling i imagine i would lose all the e mails that i have saved. Is there any way round this? and would it be straightforward to reinstall OE if it isn't the problem?

Lord Nikon 04-10-2004 01:36

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Ok, it looks like the pop3 settings in Outlook 2003 aren't quite right

doublecheck them, especially the username and password, see if you can log into the webmail with the username and password you have saved in Outlook 2003

The reason I say this is because there has to be a simple reason you can't access the email in outlook, the reason outlook express picks them up is because the details are correct there.

Outbound (SMTP) Email doesn't need the authentication inbound (pop3) does. it's possibly something as simple as a comma instead of a period in the pop3 server name in outlook.

goldoni 04-10-2004 01:50

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Outlook works fine with POP access as I only use outlook. But if I remember there is a box you tick so it can be used with POP 3. This is when you fist start-using outlook, regarding your emails in either OE or Outlook you can export all your settings and address book so you have a backup. But make sure itâ₠¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s not saved into the Outlook/OE folder. Also with Outlook you can go to the Microsoft Office web site and download a backup utility that will also remind you to do a backup.

I also still have OE installed and use it for news groups when it is working, so I donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t think this is an issue.

Regarding NAV it should also have been picked up when you first started Outlook and you would have seen a screen enabling NAV with Outlook.

One thing to remember is NTL BB Tech will not give any support on Outlook, but you maybe lucky and get one of the helpful ones who will.

greencreeper 04-10-2004 06:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ewood
Thanks to Jez and Greencreeper for their replies. If i was to remove OE completely by uninstalling i imagine i would lose all the e mails that i have saved. Is there any way round this? and would it be straightforward to reinstall OE if it isn't the problem?

You might be able to import your emails into Outlook from Outlook Express - I'm not sure. Not something I've ever tried doing :) Uninstalling/installing Outlook Express shouldn't be a problem.

nffc 04-10-2004 09:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by greencreeper
You might be able to import your emails into Outlook from Outlook Express - I'm not sure. Not something I've ever tried doing :) Uninstalling/installing Outlook Express shouldn't be a problem.

Or ditch either, use Mozilla Thunderbird which is faster, more secure, easier to use and overall better.

And with a suitable popper, it can check webmail too, including Hotmail, Yahoo, Gmail. Free of course...

threadbare 04-10-2004 09:29

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the problem here is not that oe is receiving the mail but outlook is not. stop using oe and it will stop receivving the email. instead concentrate on the settings in outlook.

once all the settings are correct in outlook, you will need to click send/receive to actually check the pop server for new messages. so send a test mail wait a moment and then click send/receive. providing your settings are correct then you will get the mail!

Use import/export from the file menu in outlook to pick up your saved emails from oe.

nffc 04-10-2004 09:30

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You could also use your firewall to BLOCK OE or Outlook from connecting...

ewood 04-10-2004 11:57

Re: E mail problem, Can You Help??
 
Thanks again for all replies. THREADBARE'S suggestion has done something significant.:) If i send myself a message from Outlook it doesn't arrive in the inbox but arrives in the inbox of OE. If i send myself a message from Outlook and THEN click the Send/Receive button(as Threadbare suggested) i do receive the message in my Outlook inbox!!!(Please note, this is the Send/Receive button and not the Send button that i obviously press when sending the e mail!!) Now, have i just been stupid in not knowing that i should be doing this :dozey: or(as i assumed) Outlook should be doing this automatically?? I have gone onto Send/Receive settings but can see nothing obvious to change. Anyone got any suggestions? I feel we are getting close now folks so one more push and my troubles will be over

Jez 04-10-2004 19:58

Re: E mail problem, Can You Help??
 
Looks to me as if you've answered your own question! Sounds as if Outlook is working fine - you just need to stop using OE which is just confusing things. As Threadbare suggested, import your OE mailboxes into Outlook, and then dump OE and you should be fine. Best make some backups beforehand, of course, just in case ;)
Mind you, I'd dump Outlook while you're at it and use Thunderbird as nffc suggested ;) ;)

ewood 04-10-2004 22:16

Re: E mail problem, Can You Help??
 
Thanks Jez. I have already imported my stuff from OE to Outlook and uninstalled OE. I didn't expect i would have to press Send/Receive to get the stuff from my POP account. I thought Outlook would do this automatically like OE does. :mad:

greencreeper 05-10-2004 00:48

Re: E mail problem, Can You Help??
 
You can automate the send/receive - the setting is in there somewhere, just have to hunt for it :D I can't remember off the top of my head - I'd know if you put me in front of Outlook.

ewood 05-10-2004 01:13

Re: E mail problem, Can You Help??
 
Greencreeper.....I have found the Send/Receive settings but it's still unclear how to make it do it automatically on opening. You can tick a box that will do it on exiting and you can tick a box that will do it every so often(1 minute upwards)

greencreeper 05-10-2004 23:06

Re: E mail problem, Can You Help??
 
Hmmm. It should do it automatically when you open Outlook. I'll have a look at work, but the settings for LAN might be slightly different to POP/IMAP.

goldoni 07-10-2004 18:00

Re: E mail problem, Can You Help??
 
Outlook is not as fast in starting to collect email as Outlook Express as itâ₠¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s a far meatier program, but my Outlook starts after a few mins on startup. The settings I have ticked: Under options click the mail delivery tab and tick both boxes †œsend messages immediately when connectedââ‚ ¬Â and the box check for new messages everyââ‚ÆšÂ¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ and set it to 15min. If you want to check your mail just hit the send and receive button. If your still having problems hit the Reconfigure Mail Support and select the Internet only option. Hope this helps :)

ewood 12-10-2004 00:44

Re: E mail problem, Can You Help??
 
Many thanks for all the contributions. I haven't been able to get the application to check for e mail on opening despite trying some of the above suggestions but having to click the send/receive button is no hardship. I'm now able to synchronize my xda2 with my outlook which was the main reason for wanting the change. Thanks again.:)


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