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tick 21-09-2004 19:47

help camcorder
 
I have a friend with a sharp camcorder.
How hard and what would I need to dowload film onto my pc.

Stuart 21-09-2004 20:02

Re: help camcorder
 
What type of camera is it? MiniDV, Digital 8, Hi 8, or VHS. It will say somewhere near the manufacturer name and model number,

tick 21-09-2004 20:14

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just looking on web to find out will be back

dilli-theclaw 21-09-2004 20:16

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Originally Posted by tick
just looking on web to find out will be back

If you ever get really stuck and can't do it - just think about how far away sunny Sandy in Bedfordshire is.... If you pop over I can do it onto dvd or cd for you :)

tick 21-09-2004 20:16

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SHARP VLZ3H DIGITAL CAMCORDER




Features:

Compact MiniDV digital camcorder with SD or MMC memory slot
10x optical, 500x digital zoom with electric image stabilization
2.5-inch LCD display and monochrome viewfinder
225-degree free angle grip
Lithium-ion battery fits inside camera

dilli-theclaw 21-09-2004 20:17

Re: help camcorder
 
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Originally Posted by tick
SHARP VLZ3H DIGITAL CAMCORDER




Features:

Compact MiniDV digital camcorder with SD or MMC memory slot
10x optical, 500x digital zoom with electric image stabilization
2.5-inch LCD display and monochrome viewfinder
225-degree free angle grip
Lithium-ion battery fits inside camera

I don't suppose your pc has a firewire socket?

tick 21-09-2004 20:19

Re: help camcorder
 
sorry wouldent realy no
wher would one be how would i find it ?

no realy into this
:dunce:

dilli-theclaw 21-09-2004 20:23

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Originally Posted by tick
sorry wouldent realy no

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=60573

If you got something like this and put it in your pc it would be ideal :)

Not that I'm saying you need to get it from ebuyer of course - but it tells you what you need....

dilli-theclaw 21-09-2004 20:25

Re: help camcorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tick
sorry wouldent realy no
wher would one be how would i find it ?

no realy into this
:dunce:

Do you know what a USB socket looks like?

It's a bit bigger than that and rounded at one end...

Stuart 21-09-2004 20:27

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Originally Posted by tick
sorry wouldent realy no
wher would one be how would i find it ?

no realy into this
:dunce:

See the attached image for firewire sockets. If your PC has either of these, it has firewire.

Unless you have a laptop, a Mac or have bought your desktop PC within the last couple of years though, the chances are there isn't one fitted..

tick 21-09-2004 20:55

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
Do you know what a USB socket looks like?

It's a bit bigger than that and rounded at one end...

have one of those
well it is'nt a usb and its round on one end

dilli-theclaw 21-09-2004 21:03

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Originally Posted by tick
have one of those
well it is'nt a usb and its round on one end

The picture posted is what you are looking for I'm afraid....

tick 21-09-2004 21:08

Re: help camcorder
 
thanks for your help

will look at the book that came with the camcorder and work it out from there

Matth 21-09-2004 21:41

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Creative Audigy Soundcards often include them

If the only place you can see a firewire socket is on the case front, take care, if it's a case with firewire and USB front panel, that's not to say that there's anything connected to them - if they're on the motherboard backplate or a slot, then they should be the real thing.

Scrubbs 21-09-2004 21:48

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or one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...uid=51190 then you don't actually need the cam corder just the card

tick 21-09-2004 21:54

Re: help camcorder
 
thanks all of to bed now will try again thursday

dilli-theclaw 21-09-2004 21:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrubbs
or one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...uid=51190 then you don't actually need the cam corder just the card

Do digital camcorders record the video on a card? That sucks you can't get much on a card then :(

Scrubbs 21-09-2004 22:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
Do digital camcorders record the video on a card? That sucks you can't get much on a card then :(

Features:

Compact MiniDV digital camcorder with SD or MMC memory slot
the modern camcorders do

dilli-theclaw 21-09-2004 22:15

Re: help camcorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrubbs
Features:

Compact MiniDV digital camcorder with SD or MMC memory slot
the modern camcorders do

The specifications state that the SD and MMC are for digitial stills...

So we need to see what tick plans to use it for :) If this is the case you are not going to be able to transfer video via the SD or MMC card slot.

Stuart 22-09-2004 09:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrubbs
Features:

Compact MiniDV digital camcorder with SD or MMC memory slot
the modern camcorders do

Usually only short clips, or very low quality.

SMHarman 22-09-2004 10:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
Do digital camcorders record the video on a card? That sucks you can't get much on a card then :(

The camcorder records to tape, normally mini DV tapes about the size of tictac boxes. Some new ones record to DVD in various forms. Camcorder footage in its raw form is about 500mb / minute or something of that magnitude (well the 22 mins i dumped onto the PC last night was 9GB).

The card is for still capture (using the camcorder like a digital camera), but a camcorder CCD is less than 1MP, so the resolution is not great, you can also use them to store images to on camera cross fade or bluescreen depending on the camera.

Sony as ever use digital8 camera tapes instead of the general market standard of MiniDV.

Stuart 22-09-2004 10:22

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Originally Posted by SMHarman
The camcorder records to tape, normally mini DV tapes about the size of tictac boxes. Some new ones record to DVD in various forms. Camcorder footage in its raw form is about 500mb / minute or something of that magnitude (well the 22 mins i dumped onto the PC last night was 9GB).

The card is for still capture (using the camcorder like a digital camera), but a camcorder CCD is less than 1MP, so the resolution is not great, you can also use them to store images to on camera cross fade or bluescreen depending on the camera.

Sony as ever use digital8 camera tapes instead of the general market standard of MiniDV.

Actually, Sony support both (depending on the camera you buy). Heaven knows why they thought we need another format though.

Chris 22-09-2004 10:31

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Originally Posted by scastle
Actually, Sony support both (depending on the camera you buy). Heaven knows why they thought we need another format though.

Digital-8 allows them to offer backwards-compatibility with older 8 and Hi-8 formats, and an upgrade path for owners of cameras that use those older formats. I have one or two '8' tapes recorded using my dad's Sony camcorder 10 or 15 years ago. They play just fine in my Sony Digital 8 camcorder, which I bought four or five years ago. The camcorder will even allow me to transfer the contents of those analogue tapes via Firewire to my Mac. All in all, a very good product IMO.

SMHarman 22-09-2004 10:44

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Originally Posted by Chris T
Digital-8 allows them to offer backwards-compatibility with older 8 and Hi-8 formats, and an upgrade path for owners of cameras that use those older formats. I have one or two '8' tapes recorded using my dad's Sony camcorder 10 or 15 years ago. They play just fine in my Sony Digital 8 camcorder, which I bought four or five years ago. The camcorder will even allow me to transfer the contents of those analogue tapes via Firewire to my Mac. All in all, a very good product IMO.

Except the 2004 range of digital 8 camcorders dropped most of this functionality to basically make them a separate digital format with none of the backward compatibility.

Chris 22-09-2004 10:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SMHarman
Except the 2004 range of digital 8 camcorders dropped most of this functionality to basically make them a separate digital format with none of the backward compatibility.

:Yikes: Just as well I already bought mine then ... perhaps they think there is no longer much of a market for it and are looking for ways to reduce costs? All the same, an odd decision by a company famed for its odd decisions.

SMHarman 22-09-2004 12:37

Re: help camcorder
 
The ability to put a Hi8 tape in and send it to the PC by firewire is handy, but not essential.

As long as your old hi8 camcorder keeps working and your new one as an AV>DV option (like my Canon MV630i) you can plug Sony Analogue 8 CC > (say) Cannon MV630i > Firewire PC cable.

bob_a_builder 23-09-2004 12:16

Re: help camcorder
 
Now if you had one of these it wouldn't be an issue

Chris 23-09-2004 12:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bob_a_builder
Now if you had one of these it wouldn't be an issue

Au contraire, Blackadder:

Quote:

Biggest drawback: the camera won't work with a Mac. Apple's QuickTime format has no support yet for AC 3 audio, which JVC uses for its camera.
:(

SMHarman 23-09-2004 12:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bob_a_builder
Now if you had one of these it wouldn't be an issue

Not quite true, many video edit suites to not like working with MP2 files, they want raw DVI type footage.

tick 23-09-2004 22:36

Re: help camcorder
 
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This is my pc
does it help
I am looking to do this on the cheep

dilli-theclaw 23-09-2004 22:41

Re: help camcorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tick
This is my pc
does it help
I am looking to do this on the cheep

It certainly does - No.11 (IEEE 1394) connectors are what you are looking for :)

You MAY need to buy a firewire(IEEE 1394) cable but you should be able to plug the camera into one of those sockets.

tick 23-09-2004 22:45

Re: help camcorder
 
Thank you I new some one would know
no trip to sunny sandy then

dilli-theclaw 23-09-2004 22:47

Re: help camcorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tick
Thank you I new some one would know
no trip to sunny sandy then

I'm glad it helps....

You're gonna miss Sandy :) It's a real great place :D

tick 23-09-2004 22:48

Re: help camcorder
 
have been it was very nice
will let you no how i got on after weekend

SMHarman 24-09-2004 09:21

Re: help camcorder
 
Plug 11 on the back of front will do the job, the one on the front is a mini plug and has no power supply, so will work for a camcorder (as it has its own battery), but not say a Firewire HDD.

Doing it on the cheap get Microsoft Movie Maker 2 and that will be the software to capture the DV footage and create many kinds of output (though not DVD).

Firewire is the sexy name for IEEE1394


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