3DMark05...
 

Thought I'd post up a bunch of screenies of the next 3DMark. It's out later this month apparently and will require at least a DirectX9 card as minimum spec :shocked: https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2005/10/12.gif

This one makes for a nice wallpaper (1600x1200)

Nice Forest test (1024x768)

A scan from a German hardware mag

And finally, a bunch from 3DMark04 Beta. (3DMark04 is now 3DMark05)

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They're moving fast... Thought there planned release was End of Novemeber.. 03's still got a fair bit of life left in it.

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Am I right that this program is used to test how good your graphics card performs ?
I'm not too sure what it does but I've heard a lot mentioned about it when researching graphics cards.

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Yes, it's a GPU intensive benchmark suite, 3DMark05 is based around DirectX 9.0c.

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...It's coming ;)

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In over 70 day's if that's a measurement in seconds :( Also, am I the only one NOT to be excited about a non-interactive bit of software?

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It will be ready about 11pm m8, should be fun just to see what kind of scores the latest cards are getting :)

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11pm? Are you sure? The countdown say's (at the moment) 98726 seconds, which is 1.14 day's, which is around 11.45am tomorrow ;)

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Countdown restarted just after 11 :confused:

At first there was a 'O' in front of the countdown thingy... now there's a W...

Owned anyone? :p:

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Exactly, the sites getting hammered atm, but FM have got the last laugh, they've played us all for fools :D

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I'm looking forward to seeing the eye candy but I'm not that bothered about my score.
(and I know my 9800 Pro will suck) :p:

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Ohhhh....thats nice :tu: :)
....Yet another 3dmark for me to get depressed about.....till I get my alienware pc........haven't told Mandy yet :erm: :D

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Save money, build it yourself. ;)

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I can see that won't run at all on my system, but it's always worth a go :D

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The last time I looked at building my own it worked out a lot cheaper to just buy a high end pc
:shrug:

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I found this computer cheaper to build and it's way better than my laptop that cost my parents £1300 :erm:

This only cost me around £200 ;)

That timer is taking an awful long time, I want to see if my system will even be able to play 1 of the tests :D

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All I know is that about 3 years ago I selected the the 'best' in terms of components, totted up how much it would cost to purchase them individually and then looked at similar systems for sale. It was a lot cheaper to buy a pre-built system. Presumably the computer companies like mesh or alienware buy in bulk and thus get cheaper components.

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Well it's cheaper to buy and build your self now :erm:

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Go on then :)

List the parts you'd buy for £250 (I'll give you a bit of leeway)

To build a HIGH END system....

(At least alienware type spec)

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Nah because it's not high-end like all of yours *groans* :p:

Mine is only:
AMD Duron 1.8GHZ
512MB DDR
40GB SeaGate Barracuda 7200RPM 2MB Cache
8GB Quantum FireBall SE
GeForce 4 MX 420
Creative SB 128
Syntax SV266A motherboard
Lite-On 56X CD-RW + DVD-ROM

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Desktop PCs tend to be cheaper than laptops (for the same spec, I do realise you can get laptops for the same price as desktops). I think part of the reason is laptops still use a lot of custom designed parts, where as desktops (at least the cheaper ones) are just assembled with off the shelf parts.

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Someone has mentioned on the futuremark site that the phrase the countdown timer is showing is "DOWNLOAD" not "OWND" and it's just got the letters jumbled up, I'd say there's at least another week to wait yet.

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3dmark '05 is out (has been for 1hr 45mins approximatly) I've run it on my p4 / 9800xt, and got 2507 first run (cat 4.9's) i then put beta 4.10's on and it boosted the score to 2970. Not bad improvement, linkie here, http://service.futuremark.com/compare?dm05=753
(note first bench was project 366 but its no longer published)

3k was what I was expecting to get and hit it pretty much on the nose. It looks good, runs like a dog though. It would appear there is a fair amount of driver tweaking to be done

k

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I can't download it since you need PixelShader 2.0, which my card doesn't support :(

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4hrs to download ... meh

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One must have patience ;) :D

I have SEVEN hours to wait :)

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Does the 9800XT support PS2.0? I've never owned one so I've no idea, if it doesn't then I doubt you'll ever see 3dmark 05 giving better benchmark scores.

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Yes, even the 9600 does

Only nvidia's new card support PS3

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My mistake, I was thinking of SM2.0b

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Are there any tests on it that don't need PS2?

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It requires a graphics card with at least PS2.0 for all tests.

Anyway...It's out now, so grab it here ;)

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Holy moly, just started the torrent and 2213 peers in swarm :shocked:

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9800xt does support all the features required to bench, interestingly the nvidia 6*** line uses ps 3.0, the only advantage of 3.0 over 2.0 is that it can do the same thing in fewer passes. Strange then that currently the highest placed nvidia card was 16th the last time i looked, with an ati whitewash especially with amd 64 power as well.
New score for me btw, http://service.futuremark.com/compare?dm05=2468
was oh so nearly #1 9800xt for a brief period, in the time it took to run the bench i was surpassed :(

Oh i got mine from aoaforums, no wait, full 1mbit was down in 40mins :)

K

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Yeah they got slightly ahead with that, although the only game that I know of which supports this feature is Everquest2.

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3d mark 05 supports it, and considering the two cards are usually neck and neck benchmarks wise, i'd of expected the nvidia's to pull away. It would appear not though with ati's new beta driver giving a 20% boost on my 9800xt

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And I just had to restart my download because the sprog just found his way into where the electric meter is (it's usually blocked off) and turned of the house mains :mad: :(

So I had to start again.....

NVIDIA Owned In 3DMark05...
 

http://www.driverheaven.net/articles/3dmark--05/
http://techreport.com/etc/2004q3/3dmark05/index.x?pg=1
http://techreport.com/etc/2004q3/3dm...dm-overall.gif
Even SM3.0 can't save you now :D :cool:

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I used "Getright" to download it. It can download from multiple sources, and supports resuming downloads..

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I've got it running via bit torrent now :)

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I don't like this benchmark - I only scored 989 :cry:

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5483 - Not bad :cool:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?dm05=6122

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Tried it out, my 9800 pro ran around that result on the graph above i.e. **** poor :D

I doubt we will be seeing gfx like that in-game until years from now..so i couldn't care less how my card on these benchmarks, because ill just upgrade when we get that sort of stuff in-game.

Im not being bitter, just realistic :D ;)

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5073 for me, that's with the X800 back at stock (pro) speeds, horrible memory and a nasty processor (half of my bits are in a new case) http://service.futuremark.com/compare?dm05=7999

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I got 2232...

I like the sea monster by the way :)

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5642 for me - not bad for an AMD 2500+

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=10810

:D

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2524 on mine. :)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=18195

Main specs:
AMD Athlon64 FX-53
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
1GB PC3200 RAM

All at stock...nice CPU score though.

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Heh, jamesclarke555's P4 beat it though :p

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Not wanting to get the whole AMD / Intel debate started again, but surely there is something wrong with that calculation?

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;)

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I can't believe I just read all the messages in this thread - Sheesh, I must be bored! :erm:

Anyway, nice weather we're having, isn't it?

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5228 now

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=28876

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Now got 4640 with a 5% overclock on the CPU, but my 3D score went down to 2470. :confused:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=28894

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Weird ... I tried reclocking my X800 back to PE speeds and my resevoir, radiator and hoses nearly reached boiling point ... I'm sure that's not right

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Bifta - you are using the XT PE BIOS arent you and not the PRO BIOS. I could'nt get anywhere near the speeds i get now with the PRO bios, only after i tried the XT BIOS was i able to OC much.

But your Watercooling heating up that much sounds - worrying - im stock cooling on my X800.

Just got the new AtiTool as well (0.0.23 Beta 4) which supports Find Max Mem / Core on the X800, and its looking like 546 is rock on the memory so far - so i might get a higher score still.

Not even tried find max core yet.

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That must be where I'm going wrong, I thought that the PE bios would automatically OC the card to PE speeds and wanted more control over it.

Where's the best place to get a working PE bios?

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Richard M, For a quick an easy score boost try the beta cat 4.10 drivers, they give around a 20% boost in 3rd score. Oddly my cpu score is unstable and was also affected by the driver update, on my first bench it got 4200 somthing with a large boost to the first cpu test, ever since i havent been able to get close to it, even with pushing the cpu harder and stuff. though second cpu test has gone up so the score is about equal there.

Interesting to see someone has got an alledged ti4200 to go through the bench and kick out simply a stunning score, me thinks its hacked though.

Have a look for yourselves http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=19126

Edit, bah project has been removed now must of been fake

K

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5684 now.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=33280

That's about as far as I can go with this processor.

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Go here -

http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/?sea...&Submit=Search

You will find loads of BIOS's for your card there. I dont think that any one is better than the other, although i am using the ATI BIOS (Samsung 1.6- 2004-07-15 17:45).

Good luck.

EDIT - YES the BIOS DOES OC the card to PE speeds - BUT - use ATITool linked to above and underclock it (forced) so that when windows loads it defaults back to the PRO speeds. Then use ATITool to find out your MAX mem and core speeds then use that setting instead.

There will soon be BIOS editors available that will let us hard code the clock speeds.

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See my last post ;) (using the Powercolor XT PE bios, same brand)

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5704 - Thats the ticket...

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=35816

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Beat j00! 5796 - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=36829

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Nice :D

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Is there any point trying to OC a plain connect 3d 9600 with no extra cooling?

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Probably not, the words "turd" and "polish" spring to mind ;)

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*cough* 5806

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=39296 ;)

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http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=40298

5963 GPU - 4660 CPU :cool:

Bring it on :p:

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Haha,
No chance - im pretty maxed out at that score - but stable. But your running a Intel Pentium 4 @ 3601 MHz with 2 gig against my AMD 2500+. No offence but if this was an overclocking compo....... :D

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:D

My X800 core's only clocked at 513MHz too! I smell a volt mod coming on in the near future ;)

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I feel really inadequate now :)

Methinks I'd better start saving for a new gfx card :)

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Let me know how it goes, im tempted myself. I need to get better cooling though and i think it may be waterbased - but thats going to have to mean a replacement of my existing system.

EDIT : DAMN - James i just notice your 580 mem - how the heck did you manage that :shocked:

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Dunno m8, luck I guess. I just wish I could take my core clock higher as well. Even though I took the HSF off and gave it the AS-5 treatment, I still can't go above 513MHz. My temps are lower now though.

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Right then... :ninja:

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Where do I get these drivers?

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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...463#post309463 ;)

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4757 CPU score on an AMD Athlon FX-53 @ 2.52Ghz
Beatya James :D
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=44484

I've tried to bench at 2.57Ghz but this board is just too unstable, hurry up NVidia I want my NForce 4!

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I'll take that bet tomorrow, especially now that I've double the fan speed on my radiator.

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Is that including CPU benchmark too?
(Bear in mind that's the only thing I can keep up with because I'm waiting for the next-gen GPU before I upgrade ;) )

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Nope, I'm talking about just the 3d marks as him/blueraja and I have the same video cards. I'm waiting for the next-gen processors before I upgrade mine ;)

For some reason my score is getting lower the further I OC the card.

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5966 - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=51218

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Hey unfair, thats with the CPU tests disabled - some of us dont have that option (or keygen).... ;)

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Yes you do, you simply press escape after the GPU tests are done, then click ok when it say's you've exited the test (or something) and it'll show your GPU score, your GPU score won't increase if you skip the CPU tests. The way I figure it, the CPU test isn't actually all that important, I mean, look at consoles, decent architecture, decent video chips and generally a fairly low speed processor.

Also, keygens won't let you submit your results to the ORB (so I've read)

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Agreed - i was just thinking that with the CPU tests done it was more an indication of how stable the system was at that Overclock - but hey i just saw on the Inquirer here that an ATI X800 PE has beaten Nvidia's SLI score of 7200 Points (thats 2 6800 Ultras running at the same time) with a single overlocked BEAST. (Check out the core / Mem timings here) so i cant complain about stability too much. :D

Anyhoo, thats me topped out until i can get new cooling. :cry:

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806 on the core holy f*ck!

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LOL,
Yup thats pretty much what i uttered - then i wiped the drool of my keyboard.

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Admittedly he's using an Asetek Vapochill system, but he must have volt modded the card to get them kind of speeds.

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2004/11/10.gif :D

Good score man, watch this space ;)

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What's your score now?

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I'll let you know, still waiting for my CPU :mad:

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Did you order it from overclockers? (if so, good luck ;))

I had to underclock mine to stop the motherboard whining, managed 6073 :D

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=254626

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How's the Athlon 64 going?

Yeah, I ordered mine from OcUK. In all fairness, they've been pretty good really, fast response to my e-mails and friendly etc. The reason I'm still without my CPU is, I ordered a new case at the same time; the elusive CoolerMaster WaveMaster (Silver) and they're out of stock. Got bored and cancelled the case off my order, so I should get it wednesday at the latest......hopefully :dozey:

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Well in the end OcUK came up good. I now have "my precious" up and running at 2.8GHz :cool:

Pain in the ass to get a single S-ATA drive to work on this board though!

I'll upload my new scores soon...

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You got that right, I remember the pain... :D
You have a VIA right?

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What was the problem getting your S-ATA drive to work?

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LOL, yeah :)

Scratching my head all last night over it too https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2004/11/4.gif

The onboard VIA S-ATA is crap basically, never had a problem with the Intel based boards. Got it plugged into the Promise RAID controller now & it works fine ;)

Oh man this things fast :shocked: Just fired up Far Cry https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2005/10/12.gif

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Ok, Ive never ran this before, so dont realyl know what to expect.
I downloaded the latest Direct X and then ran it on this machine in my Sig.

Can someone tell me if this is good or bad.

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It's not the best score I've seen, you've seen our scores, a couple of us break 6000.

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I have a 2500+ barton 1.5GB El cheapo pc2700 geforce4 fx5900xt 80GB 7200rpm NF7s abit mobo

Score 1008 fear it

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So its best to be a higher score then?

Any way I can improve my score ?

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Yeah, sell the 9800 pro and get's a big hairy mans video card ;)