NTL & SMS
 

I've bought a new cordless DECT phone which is SMS compatiable. (Dual Binatone GT10 I think QVC)

Will SMS work with NTL, do I need to active anything on NTL, what will this cost

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AFAIK, Only BT supports SMS to/from landlines at the moment. NTL have not announced any plans to support it either.

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I've just tried texting my landline.
It did come through, but in voice format. And it said that the service was provided by BT. I'm not so sure about texting from a landline, but I'm sure you could get an official response from someone.

Browneggsandham :)

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i'm gonna give that a go!! :D

Tried it: Didn't work, i couldn't send the text from my mobile. maybe it's coming soon... :dozey:

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Doesnt work here... seems a bit pointless having it on your home phone.

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OK, it now appears to work on NTL.

You can text a NTL landline from a Vodafone or T-Mobile phone (maybe also 02) but not Orange.

The voice message does say that it is the BT SMS service and the number to ring to administer it is the same as the BT one.

So, I assume the text goes to BT who provide the service and ring the NTL landline number.

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I think you have to have caller display enabled for the text to work...which rules out a lot of the ntl estate.

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And a BT SMS compatible phone - which rules out even more of the NTL Caller ID enabled areas, which use a different system.

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ah. i have orange :o

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To view/send texts you need a BT line, an SMS compatible phone and be subscribed to Caller Display. It will not work on NTL regardless of caller display availability, end of story. I doubt NTL have any plans for it.

Yet another reason why I've got BT now :D

However, as said, you can received voice-mail versions on a landline via the service BT provide, though I'm surprise BT forward it to an NTL line.

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I am on NTL and can send and receive sms via my Amstrad emailer phone
;)

Also have just got a pair of Panasonic dect phones that will let me send sms to mobiles but when they text back my phone just rings and i just here some bleeping when i answer. :confused:

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Have you signed up to the BT Text service that handles the SMS messages for the Panasonic DECT phones ?

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Doesn't the Amstrad use it's own service rather than relying on the telecom company's service? i.e. it doesn't work via Caller ID like the BT system?

I'd assume that when sending it calls some local rate or freephone number to send the message much like a computer would. On receiving, maybe it works like a fax machine, in that it listens for tones and then receives the message.

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Sending an SMS on the Amstrad emailer phone works by sending an email to the gateway at sms.amserve.com which then dials out to the phone and sends the SMS.

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:welcome: andyman!

I assume that the way the BT service works (and the reason that you need to subscribe to Caller ID) is that the phone recognises the BT SMS number and instead of ringing "downloads" the SMS (like a MODEM, hence the bleeps). Have you got Caller ID enabled on you line?

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The panasonic DECT phones support a third party SMS feature ... this recently changed to be the BT Text service. You need to sign up with them and then you can send and receive SMS messages to your phone.

There is nothing that NTL need to do ..

I have some instructions on how to change the Panasonic phones to subscribe to the new service ... I'll post them

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SMS update from Panasonic

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We habe the Philips Onis Vox 300 phones at home - will work with SMS but obvioulsy needs to be set up......would be useful sometimes......

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so i can send sms via my ntl phone? just ordered one, not for that purpose, but did a search my old fav site came up :D

and i think i get caller ID in my region, hatfield, herts?

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okay, well i have caller id and the new phones are working fine, now onto SMS. So can i send them via the ntl network? I would think not, but i got a bit confused as some other folk said they could, if so, how do you do it :)

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I beleive the way landline SMS works is that there is a message centre number programmed into your SMS phones. When you send an SMS the phone dials the message centre and transfers the message - BT charge 10p per call to this number.
AFAIK, for it to work on NTL all they have to do is allow your phone to call the BT message centre (which they may or may not) and then charge you for that call (I do not know how much).

There is nothing more technically difficult than that so there is no real reason why it should not work on NTL (receiving SMS to the phone as text is a different matter).

Nemesis seemed to be suggesting that Panasonic SMS phones were fully working on NTL, above.

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yep, thanks :) I have a panasonic phone and it has the updated details already provided by nemisis, but i cant send or receive txts. ah well, im not that fussed if i cant.

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Nemesis, can you help bontrager out here?

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TBH I've not tried it properly yey, If I get it working I'll post how to :D

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Thanks Nemesis :)

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yep thanks! I was messing about with it the other day and the phone rang and it was a computerised voice saying "hi" which was my test text message! but any text sent just comes back to me and no proper text txt. ah well, its nice having caller id and being able to ignore my yabbering friend when he calls up drunk :D

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well i can get txt messages from my orange phone, but not from my virgin phone! but its something, i have tried sending, but as yet neither have arrived :)

will keep peope updated as im sure this will start applying to more people as they get sms phones :)

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I have just tried texting from my orange pay as you go phone to my NTL Landline and got the message in voice from the BT SMS System.


I dont have an SMS phone, but have caller display.

BT have a web page which explains the service and under the FAQ section gives the required settings for various phones. I would be interested to hear if anyone can get this to work to send SMS's.

The Web page is http://www.bt.com/bttext

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well none of my texts from the phone ever arrived, but its receiving the ones from orange okay.

so thats handy, i can get texts from certain providers and i cant send anything :D saying that, i was kinda expecting nothing to work!

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I have an ntl cordless dect phone (VS200), and on ntl line........not got caller I.D, on new years day someone accidently sent a text to the land line, the phone rang & we got the text message in an automated voice, which sounded very strange!!! Never realised you could do this!!!

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well i was just reading the panasonic booklet as my messages sent via the phone were coming back with "FD" next to them. According to the booklet it means it cant connect to the message centre.. maybe ill give panasonic a ring to see what they say

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I just tried sending a text message to my landline from my mobile (O2).. the phone rang saying i had a text message and it read my out my number... but then it gave some options, for exmaple press one to listen to the message... when i pressed 1... it just hung up :(...


i just tried the other phone.. and it worked no probs... i think it hung up cos the first phone i used was still a pulse dial phone...

pretty cool.. never knew u coudl do this... one question tho... do i ahve to pay to receieve this?

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i dont know... but i think its free to recive the message. i was supised to that you can text a landline :shocked: even more so that its the BT sms service delivering the message to people on NTL :Yikes:

First time it happened i think i hang up on it after hearing that trumpet like sound i thoght it was one of those holiday scams WHoops!

its pretty cool though :)

Txt messages to ntl phones.
 

Messing around yesterday I sent a txt to my landline and was amazed to have it ring and a womans voice announce that I had a text. Since when have we been able to do this? According to the voice it was the BT service that sent me the text so I do suspect it may be restricted to O2 customers.

Anyone have any ideas?

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Hey fatboy, nope, it works on both my bt and ntl line and me and my fella were playing around with it and it worked from my vodafone and his orange mobile.

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I`m with vodafone, I`ve just tried it and it works on my ntl number.
Now that will be cheaper than using my phone to call home. Texts only cost me 3p.

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ha ha, the woman never pronounces the words correctly! 3p? wow mine cost 12p!?

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does anyone know if the woman understands text speak?

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i doubt it, she can't speak english! i put xxx at the end of the message and she said cross cross cross, if you use text speak she just reads out her own bizaare rendition

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it works here, and i got text back saying that they got it .(t-mobile)

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Got a complete shock today... gave my dearest mum my old mobile... an hour later she'd been pushing buttons and I received a garbled voice msg via BT Text on my NTL Land line!!


(PS She's got an ORANGE sim) :dunce:

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:welcome: roundabend!

Yes, apparently Orange have now enabled it (after all the other networks)!

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Hi, just surfing around after buying a pair of Pana DECT phones with SMS. Any update on what can or can't be done? I went through the setup pdf posted by Simon, all that happended was I received the SMS I had sent:confused:

Just noted FE is displayed

Cheers!

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just tried this on a Panny KX-TCA122E phone and it didnt work. The message was supposed to go to a mobile but actually came back to the landline with FD in the corner

sooo appears not to work on NTL (ex C&W area)

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Yep, just checked the manual:
FD = could not connect to SMS message centre
FE = An error occurred (really helpful, not)
EO = number permanently withheld or not subscribed:td:

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the SMS message centre numbers in my phone where the ones in the PDF file

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Try the old number 1470P09110235029 it worked for me ymmd. NTL tariff PG3 12p. Obviously some NTL areas don't have 17094009 programmed yet. There's a Telewest page saying the BT text system works, so maybe the merger will help.

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The big Caller Id. / SMS question. Can anyone confirm the availability of Caller Id. (CLI) and SMS on NTL in the Aylesbury HP21 area (Bromley hardware if that is relevant)?

Also, can anyone recommend a suitable 'phone for use with NTLs Caller Id. (CLI) and SMS (if available)? Ideally a DECT cordless 'phone but even and add-on caller display unit would be of interest.

Félim

See my related posting at http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...&postcount=120 in http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/59...-34223037.html.