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dilli-theclaw 02-09-2004 21:06

DVD recorder
 
Which one should I get?

A Philips DVDR70

A Liteon 5005

A Liteon 5001

An Ellion DVR 900A

Doesn anyone have any experience with these?

Or any other suggestions? - (I want cheap :) - the above top price is £180 which is about my top limit)

I also read somewhere I can't record films/programs from my sky digi box (not pay per view) is this true?

Anyway your thoughts and suggestions would be most welcome....

Thanks in advance :)

MikeyB 02-09-2004 21:46

Re: DVD recorder
 
Hiya,

I can't give no advice on which DVD recorder to get, but you are correct about the pay per view films from Sky.

You cannot record* the Box Office movies because they are broadcast with Macrovision protection, the same as you get on bought Videos & DVDs.

*unless you buy some gadget to overcome this, not that I'd know anything about it :rolleyes:

homealone 02-09-2004 21:49

Re: DVD recorder
 
no idea, sorry, Dilli - I'm still getting to grips with my new DVD writer & use my 'All in Wonder' to capture TV - but will bump the thread for you

<edit> - unless MikeyB gets in first, of course :D

dilli-theclaw 02-09-2004 21:51

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyB
You cannot record* the Box Office movies because they are broadcast with Macrovision protection, the same as you get on bought Videos & DVDs.

It's not the box office stuff I'm worried about to be honest, as long as I can tape ordinary stuff and skymoves that'll be fine.

Sipowicz 02-09-2004 22:18

Re: DVD recorder
 
I have the Lite-on (I thinks its the 5001 - £149 from Curry's) I have used their CD/DVD writers in the past without problems. I got it to replace the VCR (we hardly ever used it!) and thought that I would make use of the DVD recorder. I have used it in anger 3 or 4 times in 2 months, the recordings made so far have been ok, but they are not "keepers".......

dilli-theclaw 02-09-2004 22:21

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sipowicz
I have the Lite-on (I thinks its the 5001 - £149 from Curry's) I have used their CD/DVD writers in the past without problems. I got it to replace the VCR (we hardly ever used it!) and thought that I would make use of the DVD recorder. I have used it in anger 3 or 4 times in 2 months, the recordings made so far have been ok, but they are not "keepers".......

Can you record from sky (if you have sky :)) movies?

I have a liteon dvd burner in my system :)

The liteon 5005 (the next one up) can record on dvd +/- r/rw and cd's....

paulyoung666 02-09-2004 22:29

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
Can you record from sky (if you have sky :)) movies?

I have a liteon dvd burner in my system :)

The liteon 5005 (the next one up) can record on dvd +/- r/rw and cd's....


sky movies you can record , sky ppv you cannot :( , make sure you find out if the dvd recorder is +/- , a lot of the cheaper ones are + only which kinda limits you i reckon :disturbd:

dilli-theclaw 02-09-2004 22:40

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
sky movies you can record , sky ppv you cannot :( , make sure you find out if the dvd recorder is +/- , a lot of the cheaper ones are + only which kinda limits you i reckon :disturbd:

The liteon 5005 records on +/- r/rw - and cd-r /cd-rw :)

paulyoung666 02-09-2004 22:44

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
The liteon 5005 records on +/- r/rw - and cd-r /cd-rw :)



sorted then , you were one step ahead of me :D :D :D :D

dilli-theclaw 02-09-2004 22:59

Re: DVD recorder
 
Yes I COULD have an all in wonder card;) but I can't be hassled with setting a pc up next to the hi fi unit - and I have to replace the dvd player anyway... :)

paulyoung666 02-09-2004 23:00

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
Yes I COULD have an all in wonder card;) but I can't be hassled with setting a pc up next to the hi fi unit - and I have to replace the dvd player anyway... :)

fair enough it was just a thought :( :D :D :D

dilli-theclaw 02-09-2004 23:03

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
fair enough it was just a thought :( :D :D :D

It is actually a good thought - I have a tv card in my fileserver up here :)

Which is what I use to vhs>PC>dvd at the moment...:D

homealone 02-09-2004 23:18

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
It is actually a good thought - I have a tv card in my fileserver up here :)

Which is what I use to vhs>PC>dvd at the moment...:D

:cool:

/learning all the time ;)

purenuman 02-09-2004 23:50

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
The liteon 5005 records on +/- r/rw - and cd-r /cd-rw :)

liteon 5005 :tu:

You can also make it region free and disable Macrovision :angel: (info found easily with Google).

Top recorder for the price..........

purenuman 05-09-2004 14:43

Re: DVD recorder
 
Some 5005's

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...e=STRK:MESE:IT

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WDVW

Mauldor 05-09-2004 19:47

Re: DVD recorder
 
What about the LG Double Layer 12x DVD DUAL R/RW/RAM IDE Burner - it writes to ALL formats (including DVD-RAM) and quite cheap - about £50 last check.

purenuman 05-09-2004 20:27

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mauldor
What about the LG Double Layer 12x DVD DUAL R/RW/RAM IDE Burner - it writes to ALL formats (including DVD-RAM) and quite cheap - about £50 last check.

It doesn't look good sat under the telly :D

dilli-theclaw 05-09-2004 22:35

Re: DVD recorder
 
Thanks :)

dilli-theclaw 05-09-2004 22:36

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mauldor
What about the LG Double Layer 12x DVD DUAL R/RW/RAM IDE Burner - it writes to ALL formats (including DVD-RAM) and quite cheap - about £50 last check.

I have a DVD writer in my main pc :) I'm after a new dvd player for my TV downstairs and just thought I could kill two birds with one stone :)

Although the only problem with my current dvd player is that you have to grab the tray when it's out because it goes straight back in again :)

stamp92 05-09-2004 23:20

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
I also read somewhere I can't record films/programs from my sky digi box (not pay per view) is this true?

These devices r***ve the macrovision which is what messes up picture and sound when u try and record on vhs/dvd recorder.

http://www.satalogue.com/section6/page0.htm
http://www.icos-tech.com/products/macmaster.html
http://www.ps2cover.com/dvddecoder.html

Havent any personal experience of using them. Seek further advice before purchasing.

purenuman 05-09-2004 23:28

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stamp92
These devices r***ve the macrovision which is what messes up picture and sound when u try and record on vhs/dvd recorder.

http://www.satalogue.com/section6/page0.htm
http://www.icos-tech.com/products/macmaster.html
http://www.ps2cover.com/dvddecoder.html

Havent any personal experience of using them. Seek further advice before purchasing.

You don't need any of these with the LiteOn 5005.

It can be made region and macro free with info found easily in places like this http://forum.liteonit.com.tw/

dilli-theclaw 06-09-2004 22:12

Re: DVD recorder
 
I ordered a Liteon 5005 from amazon.co.uk

Thanks for all your help :)

And I'm going to checking out the region free links shortly (as I have quite a few region 1/3 discs)

purenuman 06-09-2004 22:40

Re: DVD recorder
 
http://www.digitalfaq.com/reviews/liteon.htm

I don't think you'll get a better recorder for the price :tu:

dilli-theclaw 08-09-2004 17:23

Re: DVD recorder
 
So here we are wednesday - and amazon.co.uk have delivered my blank dvd+rw's....

But not the machine itself, I am NOT a happy bunny, I paid for the faster delivery service too :(

paulyoung666 08-09-2004 17:26

Re: DVD recorder
 
ring em up and give em hell :mad: :mad: :mad:

dilli-theclaw 08-09-2004 17:28

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
ring em up and give em hell :mad: :mad: :mad:

I've just had a reply to my email asking what's going on - and they say it will arrive tomorrow.... I'm still a tad irritated tho.

Despite what everyone says about ebuyer - I've had less trouble with them than I've ever had with amazon....

I even ordered from amazon rather than ebuyer to get it quicker.

Still i'm sure I'll be happy again tomorrow when it shows up ;):D

dilli-theclaw 09-09-2004 08:11

Re: DVD recorder
 
OOOOhhhh I got it - and it looks nice :)

I've got some things to do before I can set it up - then I'm going to have a play :)

paulyoung666 09-09-2004 17:44

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
OOOOhhhh I got it - and it looks nice :)

I've got some things to do before I can set it up - then I'm going to have a play :)



nice one , have fun :D :D :D

dilli-theclaw 14-09-2004 14:40

Re: DVD recorder
 
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Ok - so it's all up and running quite nicely....

I have one small question tho :)

Please have a look at the attached picture and tell me what you think the little bits are on the bottom right hand corner. They are on all recordings. Just to clarify it's the little block of colour right in the bottom right hand corner...

When it's playing/recording on the tv you can't see it - only on my laptop and my computer.

I was wondering if it's something to to with subtitles (you know like the teletext information you sometimes see along the top of a colour picture)

dilli-theclaw 25-09-2004 18:19

Re: DVD recorder
 
I know it's cheeky - but I'm bumping my own thread - cos the thing with the picture is quite irritating....

Any ideas anyone ?

homealone 25-09-2004 18:36

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
I know it's cheeky - but I'm bumping my own thread - cos the thing with the picture is quite irritating....

Any ideas anyone ?

interesting that it only shows up when played back on a pc - and it's affecting the overlay window, rather than the picture itself.

- it may be a software/hardware issue - probably not hardware as I'm guessing the desktop & laptop have different graphics cards in, but do the computers use the same software?

just thinking out load really :confused:

dilli-theclaw 25-09-2004 18:39

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by homealone
interesting that it only shows up when played back on a pc - and it's affecting the overlay window, rather than the picture itself.

I should clarify - that is the whole picture - it was the way the program was transmitted.... I just chose that frame to make it easier to see :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by homealone
- it may be a software/hardware issue - probably not hardware as I'm guessing the desktop & laptop have different graphics cards in, but do the computers use the same software?

just thinking out load really :confused:

I've played it on power dvd 4 - 5. win dvd - and media player... Oh and nvidia's dvd player too :)

All do the same thing...

I was thinking maybe a digital watermark?

homealone 25-09-2004 19:06

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
I should clarify - that is the whole picture - it was the way the program was transmitted.... I just chose that frame to make it easier to see :)



I've played it on power dvd 4 - 5. win dvd - and media player... Oh and nvidia's dvd player too :)

All do the same thing...

I was thinking maybe a digital watermark?

What you've tried would seem to rule out a common software problem.

- I still can't think why it would show on a pc, but not on a telly, although, obviously, as displays, they are completely different. I'm still :confused: :D

paulyoung666 25-09-2004 19:14

Re: DVD recorder
 
just looked at the picture and enlarged it a hell of a long way and i cant see what it is or why it is there :confused: , i was wondering if it was something that bugs you or something you want an answer for :D :D :D

dilli-theclaw 25-09-2004 19:15

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
i was wondering if it was something that bugs you or something you want an answer for :D :D :D

That would have to be YES and - um - YES :)

dilli-theclaw 25-03-2005 12:29

Re: DVD recorder
 
Ok another bump in my own thread - I'm determined to keep this one alive :)

The quesion I have is this.

It's Dr Who day on UK gold tomorrow from 8am till 7pm then the new dr who on BBC1.

By the time all this has finished it will be 12hours.

Does anyone think there will be a problem me recording 12 hours straight through on my machine?

There is a fan in it to keep things cool, but I don't want to over heat it and smeg it up.

Opinions please :)

paulyoung666 25-03-2005 12:32

Re: DVD recorder
 
will you have enough hard drive space is the question i would ask ???? :)

dilli-theclaw 25-03-2005 12:35

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
will you have enough hard drive space is the question i would ask ???? :)

It's just a DVD recorder - and I got a load of nice new discs ready for it all.

I'm going to record the uk gold stuff in 6 hour mode. And the new dr who stuff in 2 hour mode.

Just wondering if it'll be ok :)

paulyoung666 25-03-2005 12:37

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
It's just a DVD recorder - and I got a load of nice new discs ready for it all.

I'm going to record the uk gold stuff in 6 hour mode. And the new dr who stuff in 2 hour mode.

Just wondering if it'll be ok :)


my bad , i was thinking it had a hdd built in :dunce: , cant see why you cant leave it on , just make sure any ventilation grillies are free from dust and that it has plenty of free air around it :tu: :)

dilli-theclaw 26-03-2005 12:40

Re: DVD recorder
 
Things are looking good - the first disc (and the machine come to that) wasn't even warm when I changed it.

I decided to do them in 4 hour mode to get a bit more quality.

dilli-theclaw 03-06-2005 18:23

Re: DVD recorder
 
Yet another :bump:I'm afraid.

Although a combined sky+ and dvd recorder question I thought I'd ask in here...

As some of you will have read I'm getting sky+ tomorrow.

What I'd like to know for SURE is - do sky box office films have macrovision on them?

Now my dvd recorder has a modified firmware on it which disables macrovision (I know this works as I've copied some of MY pre recorded vhs tapes and DVD's onto dvd).

What I'd like to know is will I be able to record from the sky+ box to dvd?

p.s. how easy IS it to put a bigger hd (I was thinking 120gb) in a sky+ box?

Once again - cheers for the advice.

ian@huth 03-06-2005 20:40

Re: DVD recorder
 
There is a lot on Digital Spy about upgrading the hard drive.

dilli-theclaw 03-06-2005 20:42

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ian@huth
There is a lot on Digital Spy about upgrading the hard drive.

I'm having a trawl through the sky+ section right now :)

Thanks for that :D

purenuman 03-06-2005 20:48

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
p.s. how easy IS it to put a bigger hd (I was thinking 120gb) in a sky+ box?

Once again - cheers for the advice.

PM me your email address and I'll send you (via http://www.yousendit.com/ ) a zipped word doc that shows you how to do it at your own risk :tu:

dilli-theclaw 03-06-2005 20:50

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by purenuman
PM me your email address and I'll send you (via http://www.yousendit.com/ ) a zipped word doc that shows you how to do it at your own risk :tu:

Done - thanks for that :)

purenuman 03-06-2005 23:50

Re: DVD recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
Done - thanks for that :)

No prob....

Let us know if you do it and how it goes :tu:


............... and don't blame me if it goes awry :Yikes:


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