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banjo 17-08-2004 16:05

200gb hard drive
 
Hi,
I have just purchased a 200 gb hard drive, but when I come to formatt it, it only shows up as a 131gb, any ideas :)

Ramrod 17-08-2004 16:06

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Name/make/etc?

ZrByte 17-08-2004 16:08

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by banjo
Hi,
I have just purchased a 200 gb hard drive, but when I come to formatt it, it only shows up as a 131gb, any ideas :)

You havent really given us enough information to say.

What OS are you using?
What File System is on the Drive?
What mother board do you use?

banjo 17-08-2004 16:13

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Er, the drive is a Maxtor 200gb with 8mb of cache, it will be used as a slave drive on a Win XP Pro system, and I have tried to formatt this drive on 2 machines one of which is only a few months old, I only want format ie no operating system,

Thanks,

ZrByte 17-08-2004 16:18

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by banjo
Er, the drive is a Maxtor 200gb with 8mb of cache, it will be used as a slave drive on a Win XP Pro system, and I have tried to formatt this drive on 2 machines one of which is only a few months old, I only want format ie no operating system,

Thanks,

What file system did you format the drive with? if I remember right FAT32 has a limit of 130GB so that could be your problem.

zoombini 17-08-2004 16:21

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Reformat it using NTFS if thats the case.
AFAIKR that has a limit of 4 tb ish.

ntl customer 17-08-2004 16:22

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Or split the drive in half - 100Gb either side.

Electrolyte01 17-08-2004 16:47

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Couldn't this be a 48-bit LBA issue?

SMHarman 17-08-2004 16:58

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by banjo
Hi,
I have just purchased a 200 gb hard drive, but when I come to formatt it, it only shows up as a 131gb, any ideas :)

Sounds like you have an older motherboard that is only capable of addressing 136 GB of HDD. Is your original HDD 4 or 5 GB?

You can fix this with a new PC, or buying a PCI IDE controller card and putting that in a free slot.

paulyoung666 17-08-2004 17:13

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SMHarman
Sounds like you have an older motherboard that is only capable of addressing 136 GB of HDD. Is your original HDD 4 or 5 GB?

You can fix this with a new PC, or buying a PCI IDE controller card and putting that in a free slot.


would the older machine succesfully run xp pro though :erm:

SMHarman 17-08-2004 17:16

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
would the older machine succesfully run xp pro though :erm:

Yeah Yeah, should have read the whole thread first. Thought I would chip in first as this is why I bought the 120 GB Maxtor, not bigger for my W98SE server type PC.

paulyoung666 17-08-2004 17:23

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SMHarman
Yeah Yeah, should have read the whole thread first. Thought I would chip in first as this is why I bought the 120 GB Maxtor, not bigger for my W98SE server type PC.


i might be wrong , it was just a thought :D :D :D

banjo 17-08-2004 17:52

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Sorry, I have been struggling with a non working a/drive, will have to swap it with my son's machine ! I have not been able to format the drive but I have found a utility on the Maxtor web site that might, but I need my a:\ drive working so that I can make a boot disc, it never rain's but it poors

ZrByte 17-08-2004 18:59

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by banjo
Sorry, I have been struggling with a non working a/drive, will have to swap it with my son's machine ! I have not been able to format the drive but I have found a utility on the Maxtor web site that might, but I need my a:\ drive working so that I can make a boot disc, it never rain's but it poors

Why would you need a boot disk to format from Windows XP Pro?

nffc 17-08-2004 19:25

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZrByte
Why would you need a boot disk to format from Windows XP Pro?

Read the thread :( the Maxtor utility comes on a floppy...

Although I happen to think this is BIOS related, try updating the BIOS (WITH CARE!) or checking the settings, put the IDE detection on Auto if you haven't already.

paulyoung666 17-08-2004 19:36

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nffc
Read the thread :( the Maxtor utility comes on a floppy...

Although I happen to think this is BIOS related, try updating the BIOS (WITH CARE!) or checking the settings, put the IDE detection on Auto if you haven't already.


be nice ;)

but i agree i reckon it is a bios problem :(

nffc 17-08-2004 20:13

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
be nice ;)

but i agree i reckon it is a bios problem :(

Maybe I'm just assuming everyone knows that Maxtor utilities are floppy affairs and I was trying to be as nice as possible. :( Perhaps I only know cos one of my drives is a Maxtor ...

It's something about some BIOSes not being able to address more than 137GB- if you look in the mobo manual or on the support forums of the mobo manufacturer's site (MSI have a good one for example) you might be able to confirm that as the case and a BIOS flash might solve it. If not buy a new mobo :( or put up with 137 which is still a lot but not ideal :(

banjo 17-08-2004 20:16

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
be nice ;)

but i agree i reckon it is a bios problem :(

Thank you for that,but,would I not need an a:\ drive to update the bios as previously to do this I have had to boot from a floppy ? :)

nffc 17-08-2004 20:20

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by banjo
Thank you for that,but,would I not need an a:\ drive to update the bios as previously to do this I have had to boot from a floppy ? :)

yes probably but mine will update from CD or HD as well :)

you could always buy a new floppy drive, only cost about a fiver/ few pints...

homealone 17-08-2004 21:16

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
you can download a bootable cd iso image from the website, have a look at

http://www.maxtor.com/portal/site/Ma...&downloadID=19

:)

<edit> I've uploaded the installation manual to

http://gazfan.com/files/EN_FR_DE.PDF

if you want to have look :)

banjo 17-08-2004 21:18

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Found a utility on the mother board driver disc, and I think this has updated my bios without leaving Windows, I have tried the the floppy drive on my son's machine and it is not working, but, when I re-connected his f/drive that had the same faults as mine has so i am left wondering if the f/drive has damaged the floppy controller on my mother board ? sounds unlikely but it could happen !!!

homealone 17-08-2004 21:38

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by banjo
Found a utility on the mother board driver disc, and I think this has updated my bios without leaving Windows, I have tried the the floppy drive on my son's machine and it is not working, but, when I re-connected his f/drive that had the same faults as mine has so i am left wondering if the f/drive has damaged the floppy controller on my mother board ? sounds unlikely but it could happen !!!

sorry banjo, I'm confused ;) - are you saying both floppies have packed up now? - sorry if this sounds silly, but have you checked that your ribbon cable is ok & that the red stripe side is connected to 'pin 1' at both the drive & motherboard end? It should also connect 'end to end' with the end with the twisted wires connected to the drive, not the motherboard.

zoombini 17-08-2004 21:52

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
You can tell if the floppy is connected wrong, the light is always on then.

Electrolyte01 17-08-2004 21:53

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zoombini
You can tell if the floppy is connected wrong, the light is always on then.

Yeh, that happened with my old PC :erm:

banjo 17-08-2004 22:03

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by homealone
you can download a bootable cd iso image from the website, have a look at

http://www.maxtor.com/portal/site/Ma...&downloadID=19

:)

<edit> I've uploaded the installation manual to

http://gazfan.com/files/EN_FR_DE.PDF

if you want to have look :)

Thank you very much this has helped no end :) I will try that later as I am pulling my hair out at the moment, pints all round I think, Cheers !!!

banjo 17-08-2004 22:14

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by homealone
sorry banjo, I'm confused ;) - are you saying both floppies have packed up now? - sorry if this sounds silly, but have you checked that your ribbon cable is ok & that the red stripe side is connected to 'pin 1' at both the drive & motherboard end? It should also connect 'end to end' with the end with the twisted wires connected to the drive, not the motherboard.

Sorry, but yes both a\drives are not working on their respective machines, same fault on both no lights no head chatter and even with a disc in I get the error message that their is no disc in the drive, I have checked the data/power connectors and all seems OK.

The strange thing is the a:\ drive still shows up in my computer even when it is not connected in any way ?

nffc 17-08-2004 22:32

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by banjo
Sorry, but yes both a\drives are not working on their respective machines, same fault on both no lights no head chatter and even with a disc in I get the error message that their is no disc in the drive, I have checked the data/power connectors and all seems OK.

The strange thing is the a:\ drive still shows up in my computer even when it is not connected in any way ?

Obviously a BIOS or a motherboard controller issue then, have you checked whether the BIOS can see it?

homealone 17-08-2004 22:38

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by banjo
Sorry, but yes both a\drives are not working on their respective machines, same fault on both no lights no head chatter and even with a disc in I get the error message that their is no disc in the drive, I have checked the data/power connectors and all seems OK.

The strange thing is the a:\ drive still shows up in my computer even when it is not connected in any way ?

weird - the floppy from the laptop was ok till you tried it with your desktop machine, then you put it back in the laptop & it didn't work? - am I reading that right?

Stuartbe 17-08-2004 22:43

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Does the bios report the drive as the correct size ?

If it does then it could be the way that you are formating the drive. Maxblast installs proprietory software into the boot sector and can create problems.

Personaly I would install the drive as a slave on xp and format the drive from disk management.

HTH

nffc 17-08-2004 22:47

Re: 200gb hard drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuartbe
Personaly I would install the drive as a slave on xp and format the drive from disk management.

HTH

I've done that with my last three drives including a Maxtor and had no probs.

So unless it's a BIOS issue try that and see.


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