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Electrolyte01 16-08-2004 20:44

Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
In 3 weeks I'm starting college, so I'll be getting £20 a week. £18 of that a month is going towards the internet, and so the rest is for a new computer :D

I just need some good advise on a good computer. I was thinking of a dual system, just buying a new motherboard, and 2 Intel Xeons with 1GB memory. Or is there a system that performs better that is cheaper?

The PC I have now is:

AMD Duron 1800MHZ
512MB DDR PC2100 Memory
Syntax SV266A
Pine 3D Phantom XP-3800 SiS315-E 64MB 4X AGP
SeaGate Baracuda 40GB ATA-100 (ATA-133, board doesn't support it) 7200RPM 2mb Cache
SeaGate Medalist 3GB ATA-33 5400RPM 256mb Cache
LiteOn Combo Drive
CoolerMaster Musketeer 1 Silver
C-Media Sound Card (AC'97 compatible)

Need a new case aswell, this one is cr*p :)

Thanks to any one who answers!

Max I want to spend is £1000

Richard M 16-08-2004 21:28

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
No need for a dual system, it will actually perform worse than a single CPU system because games don't use dual CPUs and the memory they need is higher latency.
You're better off getting a modest Athlon 64 system such as:

Athlon 64 3400+
1GB PC3200 DDR RAM (2x512MB, the best you can afford)
An NForce 4 chipset mobo when they come out in a few months or maybe an NForce 3 250. (try Asus or Abit)
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, which is the best value for money right now.
Western Digital Caviar SE 200GB HD (IDE version, 8MB cache)
Antec 450-550W PSU
Audigy 2 ZS

That little lot would cost you around £600-700 if you bought it right now.
www.overclockers.co.uk and www.scan.co.uk are good suppliers, but avoid using Scan for anything like mobos or graphics cards.
You could also swap the Radeon for an NVidia 6800GT which are also very nice but cost about £150-£200 more.

Jon M 16-08-2004 21:30

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
Another general rule of thumb.. if you need all the software.. go with a pre-build. If you have it already then building your own is an option.

If you buy software and build from scratch.. you'll always spend more.

gary_580 16-08-2004 21:35

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
What will be its prime use? No point in spending for new technology that you dont need

Electrolyte01 16-08-2004 21:36

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
Any ideas on a good case? Something that doesn't have cheap thin metal :)

Bifta 16-08-2004 21:37

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gary_580
What will be its prime use? No point in spending for new technology that you dont need

I think the clue is in the thread title .....

Quote:

Recommend me a good gaming PC

Bifta 16-08-2004 21:37

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrolyte
Any ideas on a good case? Something that doesn't have cheap thin metal :)

Didn't we do this for you already?

Electrolyte01 16-08-2004 21:39

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
Yeh, but I found they were rubbish PCI slots, so I got the Cooler Master Musketeer 1 Silver instead ;) (fan controller, with lovely blue analog dialogs)

Frank 16-08-2004 21:39

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard M
You're better off getting a modest Athlon 64 system such as

If you use windows XP then there is no point buying an Athlon 64 as it will be no faster than AMD's fastest 32 bit processor.

Bifta 16-08-2004 21:40

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrolyte
Yeh, but I found they were rubbish PCI slots, so I got the Cooler Master Musketeer 1 Silver instead ;) (fan controller, with lovely blue analog dialogs)

Huh? You said to recommend you a good case, wtf has the musketeer (which is essentially an overblown fan controller) got to do with it?

Jon M 16-08-2004 21:40

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrolyte
Any ideas on a good case? Something that doesn't have cheap thin metal :)

If you want sturdy go with any of the globalwin non-aluminium range. If you want fancy/riceboy go with anything by Lian Li

Electrolyte01 16-08-2004 21:43

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s1lv3r
If you want sturdy go with any of the globalwin non-aluminium range. If you want fancy/riceboy go with anything by Lian Li

Cheers :)

I was just thinking of getting the fastest AMD 32-bit CPU that is out there, until XP 64 has a final release.

Bifta 16-08-2004 21:46

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank
If you use windows XP then there is no point buying an Athlon 64 as it will be no faster than AMD's fastest 32 bit processor.

The Athlon 64 3400 pretty much wipes the floor with the 3200 under XP (32 bit) for gaming, Admittedly there's a 200mhz speed jump for the 3400, but in most gaming test's up to even over 1/3rd faster.

Richard M 16-08-2004 21:57

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank
If you use windows XP then there is no point buying an Athlon 64 as it will be no faster than AMD's fastest 32 bit processor.

Sorry but my CPU disagrees. :D
I also have a Barton 3200+ and as Bifta said, my FX really does wipe the floor with it.

Electrolyte01 16-08-2004 22:32

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
I think I'm going to go with Richards first computer spec, sounds like the best idea to me :p:

Thanks to all that posted :D

SOSAGES 17-08-2004 08:40

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
my only edit would be to get a smaller drive to boot off - as when ur hard drives cocks up (as they all do these days) you will just lose your install and not all ur work.

Electrolyte01 17-08-2004 09:41

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
I already have a barracuda 40gb as you see on my list, that's kinda new so i'll probably use that for system files, then the other one for all my games.

SOSAGES 17-08-2004 10:23

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
i would of opted for a small sata 8meg buffer drive to boot off my self - have the 40 gig one for ur games and then a huge slow one for songs/movies etc

Ben 17-08-2004 11:14

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
If you have case / monitor / dvd- drive etc


Asus P4P800 SE "Springdale" (Socket 478) Motherboard (MB-025-AS)
£62.95 £62.95
Intel Pentium 4 "Prescott" 3.2GHz (800FSB) with HT Technology - Retail (CP-047-IN)
£155.00 £155.00
Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200C2 Pro TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2 (MY-026-CS)
£165.00 £165.00
Western Digital Caviar Special Edition 250GB 2500JD SATA 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-010-WD)
£112.95 £112.95
Asus V9999 Ultra Deluxe GeForce 6800 Ultra 256MB DDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (AGP) - Retail (GX-040-AS)
£329.95 £329.95

Subtotal £825.85
VAT £144.53
Total £970.38

Electrolyte01 17-08-2004 12:16

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
I'm not touching Intel, I hate them. AMD are better than Intel, it's been proven ;)

Thanks any way Ben :)

Bifta 17-08-2004 12:35

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrolyte
I'm not touching Intel, I hate them. AMD are better than Intel, it's been proven ;)

Thanks any way Ben :)

Where has it been proven? I'd swap my Athlon XP 3200 for a 3.2ghz P4 anyday. (just can't afford it atm)

Here's a couple of gaming benchmarks, XP 3200 vs P4 3.0ghz

http://www.simhq.com/_technology/technology_002f.html

Oh look, the 3ghz P4 beats it in every test .....

Electrolyte01 17-08-2004 12:37

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
It was in this magazine my mate told me about, can't remember it any more :erm:

But I prefer AMD, there cheaper, and always seem to be better performance for me.

Bifta 17-08-2004 12:43

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
Oh look, more benchmarks, with the P4 only losing out on 1 of them.

http://www.vr-zone.com/reviews/AMD/XP3200+/page6.htm, and that's just gaming performance, the P4 spanks AMD in almost every other test.

Electrolyte01 17-08-2004 12:44

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
OK Bifta, I'm not listening to you any more you seem to always disagree with EVERYTHING I say.

Bifta 17-08-2004 12:47

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrolyte
OK Bifta, I'm not listening to you any more you seem to always disagree with EVERYTHING I say.

You say something that's correct and I'll agree with you .. simple really .. You're off again backing up your view's with something "your mate" told you, where as I provide you with actual information to the contrary.

SOSAGES 17-08-2004 13:20

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
bifta is very passionate about cpu's and especially gfx cards he disagrees with most people because normally he knows what hes on about :)

matrix 17-08-2004 22:58

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
looks good, but definately get a 6800gt and 1gb ram, itll last you a good couple of years if not longer

Gareth 18-08-2004 09:17

Re: Recommend me a good gaming PC
 
Forget what everyone else has suggested. You should buy my 1.2GHz Celery with 60GB HDD, 320MB RAM and ATI Radeon 7000 - I'll sell it for £995 and I'll even throw in an old copy of Win 98SE I have collecting dust. If you want XP instead, I can arrange that, but I'd have to charge you even more ;)


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