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Pierre 03-08-2004 12:22
Sex Assault Saudi Diplomat walks free
 
See here

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori.../98785/1/.html

And I suppose if it was the other way around they'd let a western child molester go free.

Ramrod 03-08-2004 12:24
Re: Sex Assault Saudi Diplomat walks free
 
Great! :rolleyes:

Escapee 03-08-2004 12:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre
See here

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori.../98785/1/.html

And I suppose if it was the other way around they'd let a western child molester go free.
I guess this sort of thing is common place in uncivilised countries, so the westerner wouldn't get arrested to start with. :rolleyes:

Ramrod 03-08-2004 12:27
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More info
Quote:
A SAUDI embassy official alleged to have indecently assaulted a girl aged 11 at a London party will be sent home in disgrace despite a plea for him to be investigated here.
Source: The Times

Xaccers 03-08-2004 15:27
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Hang on, we don't know if he's free yet. Sure he's not going to be prosecuted by British Law, but its going to be investigated by the Saudi's and if found to be true, he'll face their penalty, which happens to be decapitation. Now, how many people on here have been screaming for pedos to get that? Here's one that might actually have it happen, yet still you moan.

Ramrod 03-08-2004 15:28
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
Hang on, we don't know if he's free yet. Sure he's not going to be prosecuted by British Law, but its going to be investigated by the Saudi's and if found to be true, he'll face their penalty, which happens to be decapitation. Now, how many people on here have been screaming for pedos to get that? Here's one that might actually have it happen, yet still you moan.
Have you read my link.....it addresses your points.

Xaccers 03-08-2004 15:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramrod
Have you read my link.....it addresses your points.
It doesn't working for me. :(

downquark1 03-08-2004 15:57
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Diplomatic immunity?

Stuart 03-08-2004 16:25
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Originally Posted by downquark1
Diplomatic immunity?
Diplomatic immunity protects him against prosecution by our laws, but his own government is free to punish him as it sees fit.

For example, if I were a UK diplomat and raped someone in another country, I would be protected against prosecution by that country, however, I would be brought back to the UK and charged with rape as if the crime had happened here. Of course, not all countries do this (although I believe the UK does).

Ramrod 03-08-2004 16:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xaccers
It doesn't working for me. :(
Me neither earlier but it's fine again now :confused:
Quote:
A worker at the Saudi Embassy said: †œIf he was married and committed a sexual act with a child and there were four witnesses then he could be stoned to death, but if he was not married he could get 100 lashes.ââ‚à ‚¬Ã‚ But, because of his familyÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šà ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s connections, it it is unlikely that he will face any severe punishment, just disgrace in the diplomatic community, although he may be detained for a short period by Interior Ministry officials, who deal with interrogation.

Xaccers 03-08-2004 16:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramrod
Have you read my link.....it addresses your points.
Got it working :)

So we don't know what's going to happen, but we know the possible punishments that await him.

kronas 03-08-2004 16:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xaccers
Got it working :)

So we don't know what's going to happen, but we know the possible punishments that await him.
Quote:
If he was married and committed a sexual act with a child and there were four witnesses then he could be stoned to death, but if he was not married he could get 100 lashes.ââ‚à ‚¬Ã‚ But, because of his familyÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šà ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s connections, it it is unlikely that he will face any severe punishment, just disgrace in the diplomatic community, although he may be detained for a short period by Interior Ministry officials, who deal with interrogation.
just goes to show anyone in power is above the law. :rolleyes:

Xaccers 03-08-2004 16:49
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Originally Posted by kronas
just goes to show anyone in power is above the law. :rolleyes:
There is a difference between "will not" and "may not"
If they let him go then I will condemn them, until then it's like saying "the police have arrested someone but they might let him go"

And would you like to face Saudi interigators? Isn't someone often posting about how amnesty international keeps condeming their techniques?

kronas 03-08-2004 18:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xaccers
There is a difference between "will not" and "may not"
If they let him go then I will condemn them, until then it's like saying "the police have arrested someone but they might let him go"

And would you like to face Saudi interigators? Isn't someone often posting about how amnesty international keeps condeming their techniques?

oh come off it, they will let him go, he has immunity here, so basically when he goes back to saudi they will proberbly let him go because of his status.

if it was a civilian diffarent story!

Xaccers 03-08-2004 18:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kronas
oh come off it, they will let him go, he has immunity here, so basically when he goes back to saudi they will proberbly let him go because of his status.

if it was a civilian diffarent story!
Care to back that up?

He is a civilian.

kronas 03-08-2004 18:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xaccers

He is a civilian.

he is a representative of the country, i doubt they would do anything to him, how good would that look ?

Xaccers 03-08-2004 20:33
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Originally Posted by kronas
he is a representative of the country, i doubt they would do anything to him, how good would that look ?
He is an official at the embassy, not an ambassador.
He does not represent his country, he works for those who represent his country.
It would look a damn site worse internationally and especially over here if they do nothing.

Stuartbe 03-08-2004 20:37
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I think its only ambassador's that have diplomatic imunity.. I know that the police cant pull over card that have a " D " plate.

Xaccers 03-08-2004 20:47
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Originally Posted by Stuartbe
I think its only ambassador's that have diplomatic imunity.. I know that the police cant pull over card that have a " D " plate.
Just checked the article, he's a diplomat, not an ambassador.
an official engaged in international negotiations

kronas 04-08-2004 00:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xaccers
He is an official at the embassy, not an ambassador.
He does not represent his country, he works for those who represent his country.
It would look a damn site worse internationally and especially over here if they do nothing.
oops my bad

Quote:
The 41-year-old man, who is a senior member of the Saudi Embassy and works †œclosely with the Ambassadorââ ¬Â,
should have read the second link better :p:


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