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Dry run?Source: The Sunday Times

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Scary bloody scary

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Well Bil Laden has wildy succeeded in one thing.He has made us as paranoid as himself. :(

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Not really that scary, Come on how many planes do you know that have been hijacked compared to the amount that fly per day. The chances of any of us being on a plane when it next happens are extremely remote

It is the same way the mind works when you are walking down a street and a gang of asians are walking towards you, you usually become very anxious. Theres no point with being terrifyed everytime you see a group of middle easten men on a plane. Its the way the media works and the image that is implanted on your brian day after day after day. Most people wont have ever even have been a victim of crime from a arab or muslim but are still scared of them

Do you get scared when you see a irish man in london? Why not? We have had a lot more terrorist attacks from the IRA than the middle easten terrorists

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I dunno, I'd stilll be scared with a dozen or so men acting that strangely on a flight 9/11 or no 9/11......

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Sounds suspiciously like an urban legend to me.

Does anybody remember the one going round where a woman/man returns a man's dropped wallet and in thanking her he warns her to stay out of a certain place on a certain date?

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I remember that one

So their instrument cases contained......instruments!!!!!! :rofl:

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and what did they guy with the goatee mean?

Also it seems odd that this women would go to the FBI for hours after taking their young son on a 4 and a half hour plane journey? why would a group travel to a casino for 2 nights then go back? why didnt the casino get a local band?

sounds a pile of rubbish to me

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Why would people who've been talking arabic throughout the flight mouth "no" instead of "la"?

As for the 2 nights, it's probably because the flights were cheaper, although the thought of 14 Syrians going to a casino is a bit strange!
Big band.

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come to think of it, why did the FBI interview her for hours? there where loads of people on the plane such as staff and that goatee man so why interview too regualr pessenegers

it like the amount of people who say how they walked ppast the site of the docklands bomb a few mintues before it went off, if they where all right then it wwould mean that for some reason there was a sudden rush of thousands of people running past at the same time

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And what is this?

Surely the flight attendant could write a note in the galley without it being suspicious? And passengers slipping notes to flight attendants is not suspicious? :confused:

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why on earth is The times publishing such rubbish....oh wait murdoch, i forgot :D

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If they were Arabs how can they say No in English?

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.............

Ummmm......they...learn...it :confused:

If you english how can you say Bonjour?

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Or was the woman just thinking they were acting strangely because if 9/11?

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BINGO COLIN

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I think I'll just go and have another beer.......... :rolleyes: :D

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i dont get it

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Well all I did was start a thread about this interesting/scary story that I found in the Times newspaper and it's being pulled apart by the rabid pack of hounds that make up our membership.......so since I can't do anything about it, I'm having another beer :D

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Awwww there there Ramrod! :ghugs: :D
Can I have one too please? ;)

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Free Beer? I want free beer! stop holding out on the free beer

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Grolsh, Grolsh, Grolsh, Grolsh, Grolsh, Grolsh, Grolsh, Grolsh, Grolsh.......ahhhhhhh.....thats better :D'Course you can dear :)

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Non as prolific as 9/11 though.

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may i join you and let the rabid members get on with it , have one on me :beer:

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I think by definition a suicide attacker has a maximum of one successful attack. Some IRA cells carried out lots of bombings.

This is actually a useful side-effect of a suicide strategy from the point of view of stopping it - the most talented and successful enemy end up dead first, thus lowering the quality. All you have to do is stop more people joining up. Shame we're operating a policy of persuading more people to join up.

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For an "on the other hand" viewpoint of this story...

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/inter...268788,00.html

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I've always thought it highly unlikely that none of the world's security agencies knew about the pending attacks on the World Trade Center. I just cannot accept that such attacks, which necessitated a great deal of planning over a long period of time, weren't foreseen :no:

It's sad that so much paranoia exists over terrorism because I honestly don't believe the threat is anywhere near as great as is it's made out to be, largely for political and financial purposes. My real fear is that in the name of counter terrorism our civil rights and liberties will be (further) erroded, with governments telling us that their latest anti-terrorism measures are necessary to protect our rights and liberties. Identity cards are the most obvious example.

Jacobsen uses the phrase ""aware" Americans" - I'd say that "paranoid and racist" is more accurate. It's interesting how quickly America has reverted to it's old racist ways - 30s Deep South, and post-Perl Harbour and the concentration camps for the Japanese. Assuming of course that it ever left it's old racist ways behind. The detail of Jacobsen's account shows that, from the moment she saw "14 Middle Eastern men" boarding the aircraft, she was in "seedy journalist" rather than "concerned American" mode.

:tu:

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Here's the follow up to the original article...

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Nice one :tu:

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You should try to remember that most Americans are very poorly educated as to the rest of the world. Their education system is very poor, even in comparrison to Britains current educational mess. They learn little or nothing about the rest of the world. Most Americans never leave the continental USA, and when they do its to bomb other countries in illegal wars. Or at the very least, they come to europe and insult us all by saying '' How Quaint '', very loudly.

Is it any wonder that the current Junta in washington find it so easy to make its citizens paranoid. :rolleyes:

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<wipes away tear> A brilliant example of emotive journalism. Really tugs at the heart strings.

:rolleyes:

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Someone once said that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance, and sadly this is true.
After 9/11 nothing can ever be the same again, and it's wrong to think otherwise - when you have an event that shocking, how can people look at things in the same way again? - of course people are going to be scared of groups of middle eastern men - it doesn't make it right, but it's going to happen. If you're out one night, and you get sent on by a group of chinese youths, and they kick seven types of snot out of you, are you not going to be scared next time you see a group of chinese youths in the street? - of course you are, it's natural, the same happens if you get set on by a group of white youths - it doesn't make it right, and you probably makes you borderline racist, depending on who the attackers are - but the 'types' of people that hurt you are what you remember, so you can be aware of them next time.

As Earl of Bronze said, most of america knows very little about the outside world, they don't understand that their foreign policy is pretty much to blame for what happened - all they understand is that a group of people hurt them, hurt them pretty badly - and now they are scared of those groups.

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Lets not forget that September 11th was the terrorists greatest moment in history. It was brought about by the best of the best of their skill. Excellently Planned and excellent excuted. It required years of planning (acording to reports) and at the end of the day was a miutre of the best skills, a lot of money and intellgance mistakes. It will be hard for this to happen again

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Just because something is unlikely it doesn't stop you being afraid. No one thought something like this would ever happen, people aren't going to be quick to believe that it will never happen again.

From now on, until a very long time later, you're going to hear scare stories like this - because that's how a lot of people feel

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Thats what terrorism is all about, the media is helping them

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Is the American media not merely echoing the current feeling of America?

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it a bit of both though they keep telling thekm public they are under attack. same here albeit on a smaller scale

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Perhaps not that easily on quite that scale, but Bali and the Spanish train blasts show that there are lots of easier targets out there where a substantial number of people can be killed. :(

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I hope so, but I'm not too sure.

There's probably more hatred now of the West than before 911.

The US government has spent tonnes more money on the Iraq war than on Homeland Security.

The 911 Comission, the US Senate report on the Iraq war intelligence, etc. etc., seem to show that the intelligence community still has a lot to learn from its mistakes, as do the politicians, & there is no guarantee that the changes recommended will be implemented.


And as danielf said, even if the terrorists don't manage anything else on the scale of 911, things such as Bali & Madrid show how easy it is for smaller, but still terrible, attacks.