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JediMaster 11-07-2004 12:03

Email Error & Opera?
 
I am using Opera now because it has it's own Address book. So I use Outlook for Family stuff & Opera for Work...

I have had it about 2-3 months & all is ok.

Now I get this error... I cant remember changing any of the settings :p:

****@ntlworld.com
Temporary server error [452 Filesystem error - message not accepted]

eddie00001 11-07-2004 20:18

Re: Email Error & Opera?
 
According to this site, this is the problem:

There is something wrong with the SmtpMail.SmtpServer. Typically the disk is full, or the mail store is full, and it can't accept any more email at this time.

Paul 11-07-2004 20:24

Re: Email Error & Opera?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JediMaster
****@ntlworld.com
Temporary server error [452 Filesystem error - message not accepted]

That is a storage error on the ntl smtp server which only ntl can fix - have you reported it to them ?

grahamj 11-07-2004 21:02

Re: Email Error & Opera?
 
Description

ntlworld Email - errors on sendig mail


Detail

ntl internet customers may currently experience intermittent difficulty sending emails from their ntlworld addresses and may see error messages such as "error 452 - File system error" when trying to do so.

Our engineers are aware of this issue, and are working to resolve it.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this may cause.

logged on this site http://www.ntl-isp.ntl.com/ServiceStatus/

JediMaster 12-07-2004 10:53

Re: Email Error & Opera?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pem
That is a storage error on the ntl smtp server which only ntl can fix - have you reported it to them ?

No I had NOT reported it as I was unsure if it was Error or NTL :dunce:

Hope it gets fixed soon :p:

dirtydog 12-07-2004 11:43

Re: Email Error & Opera?
 
Yeah I'm having the same problem (Outlook Express though) - nearly 24 hours and ntl still hasn't fixed it? Their status page says it's intermittent but I've tried to send an email several times today and it's failed with the same error each time.

:mad: :td:

PC_Arcade 12-07-2004 12:06

NTL webmail problems
 
I'm getting the following message when trying to reply to a webmail message :
"The SMTP server had insufficient storage for the message: 452 Filesystem error - message not accepted".

:dozey: WTF is wrong NOW???

Anyone know, I need to reply to this mail from work and cant :(

Chris 12-07-2004 12:08

Re: NTL webmail problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PC_Arcade
I'm getting the following message when trying to reply to a webmail message :
"The SMTP server had insufficient storage for the message: 452 Filesystem error - message not accepted".

:dozey: WTF is wrong NOW???

Anyone know, I need to reply to this mail from work and cant :(

Ntl are having technical problems. Being discussed here:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=14664

:)

Mike Harrison 12-07-2004 12:12

smtp.ntlworld.com down ?
 
Anyone else seeing problems sending mail - I'm getting frequent "452 Filesystem error - message not accepted" errors since yesterday. (IG10 area)

poolking 12-07-2004 12:13

Re: NTL webmail problems
 
I have had intermittent problems this morning. I'll try again tonight. :D

poolking 12-07-2004 12:15

Re: smtp.ntlworld.com down ?
 
It is happening everywhere. Check this thread:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=14664

:)

br3ach 12-07-2004 12:16

Re: smtp.ntlworld.com down ?
 
Are you using norton?

I was having errors this morning until I disabled norton, seems to be ok now :)

poolking 12-07-2004 12:17

Re: smtp.ntlworld.com down ?
 
It's nothing to do with your anti-virus software.

br3ach 12-07-2004 12:43

Re: smtp.ntlworld.com down ?
 
I thought it was as the error was coming from nortons software, but your right it has started again now even with norton off :/

looks like im changing my smtp server to my own domain then :)

poolking 12-07-2004 12:49

Re: smtp.ntlworld.com down ?
 
I was saying that because I'm using AVG and got the same error message. :D

BlueMeany 12-07-2004 13:10

Re: smtp.ntlworld.com down ?
 
Right,

If thats the case... does anyone have any "tips" on managing to change the smtp server, maybe to one that allows relaying?

I have accounts with different providers, but because I'm on ntl broadband, have to use their smtp server. I'm a bit miffed because I've got a college assignment to email in that should have been in last week.

Am I going to have to attempt to use a dialup account?

I thought ntl had a super-duper email system now that they "upgraded" it??!!!

poolking 12-07-2004 13:18

Re: smtp.ntlworld.com down ?
 
Do you have a yahoo account that you could send the assignment through? As they now allow 10Mb attachments.

poolking 12-07-2004 13:31

Re: Email Error & Opera?
 
Probably they are freeing up diskspace and its getting used up as quick as they are freeing it? :D

Valerie 12-07-2004 13:43

Re: Email Error & Opera?
 
I've been getting the same message and outlook tells me the messages haven't gone but my emails are getting through - I sent one eight times before I realised!
This is all very confusing and I hope ntl get it sorted soon

poolking 12-07-2004 13:50

Re: Email Error & Opera?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Valerie
I've been getting the same message and outlook tells me the messages haven't gone but my emails are getting through - I sent one eight times before I realised!
This is all very confusing and I hope ntl get it sorted soon

Because it is an intermittent problem.

Valerie 12-07-2004 14:06

Re: Email Error & Opera?
 
Intermittent it may be but it leaves the mail in the outbox every time leading you to think it hasn't gone when it has.

JediMaster 12-07-2004 14:07

Re: Email Error & Opera?
 
New Message NOW!!!

****@ntlworld.com
Sending e-mail failed. Maybe the SMTP server is not set up properly? E-mail queued.

sherer 12-07-2004 14:58

Re: Email Error & Opera?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by poolking
Probably they are freeing up diskspace and its getting used up as quick as they are freeing it? :D

maybe if they had anti-spam and av software then half the mails NTL get could be deleted and we wouldn't be in this mess

ianbutty 12-07-2004 15:09

Re: Email Error & Opera?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Valerie
I've been getting the same message and outlook tells me the messages haven't gone but my emails are getting through - I sent one eight times before I realised!
This is all very confusing and I hope ntl get it sorted soon

It's even worse than that SOME emails are getting through, and SOME are not. I've had to start BCCing myself to find out which.

Anyone know where I can buy a carrier pigeon cheap?! :(

Paul 12-07-2004 15:16

Re: Email Error & Opera?
 
AFAIK, "the smtp server" is actually a collection of servers so I would guess that only one is broken, therefore the fault is intermittant depending on which one you get. Of course, this may be wrong, because if it were true then you might wonder why the duffer is still in service .... :erm:

Edit: I have merged the three topic on this that I could find.

bertJ 12-07-2004 15:59

Re: [merged] NTL SMTP : 452 File System Error
 
I'm getting multiple copies of the same e mail (i.e. 15 copies of the same thing, all timed slightly differently). Is this connected with the 452 File System Error or something else? The same number of copies are also being forwarded to my Yahoo account.

poolking 12-07-2004 16:06

Re: Email Error & Opera?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianbutty
It's even worse than that SOME emails are getting through, and SOME are not. I've had to start BCCing myself to find out which.

Anyone know where I can buy a carrier pigeon cheap?! :(

Would any from Trafalgar Square do? :D

macuser_e7 12-07-2004 16:39

Solution for Mac Users
 
Mac OS X has its own smtp server built-in, but it is turned off by default.

Users on version 10.2 ("Jaguar") or earlier need to download a utility called Sendmail Enabler; users on 10.3 ("Panther") need Postfix Enabler.

Once you've set-up Sendmail or Postfix and enabled it you can send mail directly from your own machine to the recipient without going via NTL's mail servers. It takes about 2 minutes to do the download, config and set-up, so it's well worth the effort.

Mike Harrison 12-07-2004 17:29

Re: [merged] NTL SMTP : 452 File System Error
 
There is a freeware SMTP server from www.softstack.com which runs on your PC, which can be used to bypass the flaky NTL one. Seems to work OK as far as I can see.

poolking 12-07-2004 17:37

Re: [merged] NTL SMTP : 452 File System Error
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Harrison
There is a freeware SMTP server from www.softstack.com which runs on your PC, which can be used to bypass the flaky NTL one. Seems to work OK as far as I can see.

Thanks for that I'll check it out when I get home. :)

ianewest 12-07-2004 17:38

Re: [merged] NTL SMTP : 452 File System Error
 
I have been getting the 452 error from Norton IS all day but a couple of hours ago, I was assured by the ntl support desk that the error was erroneous and, sure enough, the e-mails have been gettimng through.

Ian

fred 12-07-2004 18:36

Email sending problems
 
I have been receiving emails but any I send, with Outlook Express are rejected. The recipeints say they do receive the emails! Even if I try to use the web interface it tell me the server is out of filespace!
Surprised not to see any other similar user problems here.
I have checked with a colleague who also has NTL and he sees the same problem.

Nigel

50420 12-07-2004 20:33

Re: Email sending problems
 
hi fred....

there is a known intermittent issue with smtp server ...as per the server status page

============
ntl internet customers may currently experience intermittent difficulty sending emails from their ntlworld addresses and may see error messages such as "error 452 - File system error" when trying to do so.

Our engineers are aware of this issue, and are working to resolve it.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this may cause.
================

does this have any relevance to any errors your having there??

Neil 12-07-2004 20:35

Re: Email sending problems
 
*Sigh*....

Good old ntl e-mail. :angel:

Paul K 12-07-2004 20:57

Re: Email sending problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
*Sigh*....

Good old ntl e-mail. :angel:

Nooooo Ntl and email server problems? Surely you jest sir?
Welcome to the wonderful world of NTL email Fred ;) Can I interest you in a hotmail account? :p:

NinjaBikeRider 13-07-2004 14:12

Re: [merged] NTL SMTP : 452 File System Error
 
Yeah, now NTLââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s SMTP stuff doesnââ‚ÆšÃ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t workââ‚ ¬Ã‚¦!! Having major problems with it since yesterday. Using MS Outlook and itââ‚ ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s definitely not my systemsââ‚à ‚¬Ã‚¦Come on NTL sort it out, Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢m running a business here and talk to 85% of my customers through email L



Mental note: Why, oh why did I move from lovely ADSLâ₠¬Ã‚¦WHY??!!??

:mad:

NinjaBikeRider 13-07-2004 14:15

Re: [merged] NTL SMTP : 452 File System Error
 
Oh yeah forgot to mentionââ‚à ‚¬Ã‚¦Sending out emails yesterday, caused multiply copies to be sent to my clients. In fact, one client kept receiving the same email all dayââ‚Âà ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¦in total they got around 85 copiesââ‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¦!!

Matth 13-07-2004 16:04

Re: [merged] NTL SMTP : 452 File System Error
 
I got a reply to one that had been 452'd - I don't know how many times it tried to send it though, and how many duplicates that produced.


Since the send is not counted as successful, it stays in your email client's outbox - and especially if you were to leave it running on a 15 minute retry interval or less, that could be embarrassing!

BaconSarnie 14-07-2004 01:01

Re: [merged] NTL SMTP : 452 File System Error
 
I think incoming mails are being deleted, too.

I checked mail from work today, and a couple of mails were there I wanted, but now using Outlook from home, if I ever get anything back (ie not timeing out), they have gone.

This isn't a 452, I know, but it's worse, almost. Even going through the web GUI, and telnet, they no longer exist.

This is bad.

carlingman 14-07-2004 01:26

Re: [merged] NTL SMTP : 452 File System Error
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BaconSarnie
I think incoming mails are being deleted, too.

I checked mail from work today, and a couple of mails were there I wanted, but now using Outlook from home, if I ever get anything back (ie not timeing out), they have gone.

This isn't a 452, I know, but it's worse, almost. Even going through the web GUI, and telnet, they no longer exist.

This is bad.

Hi Baconsarnie,

What is the result when you IMAP the account.

Create an a new mail account in outlook express (or whichever mail client you use) and use IMAP instead of POP3 by choosing incoming mail server as imap.ntlworld.com

:D

BaconSarnie 14-07-2004 08:59

Re: [merged] NTL SMTP : 452 File System Error
 
carlingman,
the imap account looks as though it's setup OK, and I when I sent myself a test mail, I can see it OK in the inbox. Header only at first, IIRR, then I clicked on the inbox again, and the mail itself showed up.

I have also had mail since the disappeared ones, so it looks like when yesterday's problems were being fixed, some stuff got lost.

I tried a telnet, too, and that shows the same, just my test mail, and not the missing ones.

Cheers.

td444 16-07-2004 15:50

Re: [merged] NTL SMTP : 452 File System Error
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaBikeRider
Yeah, now NTLââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s SMTP stuff doesnââ‚ÆšÃ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t workââ‚ ¬Ã‚¦!! Having major problems with it since yesterday. Using MS Outlook and itââ‚ ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s definitely not my systemsââ‚à ‚¬Ã‚¦Come on NTL sort it out, Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢m running a business here and talk to 85% of my customers through email L



Mental note: Why, oh why did I move from lovely ADSLâ₠¬Ã‚¦WHY??!!??

:mad:

Set the "reply-to" email address to a new email address provider, that you have set up.

Paul 16-07-2004 16:06

Re: [merged] NTL SMTP : 452 File System Error
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaBikeRider
Yeah, now NTL’s SMTP stuff doesn’t work…!! Having major problems with it since yesterday. Using MS Outlook and it’s definitely not my systems…Come on NTL sort it out, I’m running a business here and talk to 85% of my customers through email L



Mental note: Why, oh why did I move from lovely ADSL…WHY??!!??

:mad:


I would seriously quesion why you are running a business using a residential ISP and mail service. If you use e-mail for your business then you should realy pay for a proper e-mail service.

poolking 16-07-2004 16:25

Re: [merged] NTL SMTP : 452 File System Error
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M
I would seriously quesion why you are running a business using a residential ISP and mail service. If you use e-mail for your business then you should realy pay for a proper e-mail service.

I agree 100%.


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