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Plonking 05-07-2004 20:33

Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
Ok,

so I turned on the PC tonight only to find that the genius that is outlook express has decided to delete two massive folders full of emails to do with university and my website. :mad: i have no idea what happened, everything is just *gone*

Fortunately, I backed it all up about a week ago :) but now I want to replace outlook express with a decent mail client. does anyone have any suggestions?

cheers,,

P

Paul K 05-07-2004 20:37

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
Outlook? *runs*
Pass :confused: I use OE or Outlook and I've never had that happen. Did you check your settings in case you had left a check in the wrong box somewhere?

Chris W 05-07-2004 20:37

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
Thunderbird

haven't had any problems with it myself :tu:

MB

Paul K 05-07-2004 20:40

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
Eudora, pegasus mail?
any of these....
http://email.about.com/od/windowsemailclients/ ;)
*waits for a linux client to be mentioned*

Plonking 05-07-2004 20:43

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
Cheers MB.. I'll give Thunderbird a go :D

Paul... it was really weird. Everything was there this morning - I had rules set up to redirect mail coming to certain accnts to go into different folders.

THen i turned on the PC tonite and suddenly these two folders (one of which was nested in the other) have both vanished - no trace, nothing.

It's very very odd and I have no idea why it happened... ? I had no boxes to check unfortuanately - it's soooo weird! I think this windows installation needs to be wiped anyway, it's starting to be erratic as windows has a habit of being :dozey:

P

philip.j.fry 05-07-2004 20:43

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul
*waits for a linux client to be mentioned*

If you insist ;)

I wasn't going to because it was clear that a windows client was required, so I'd agree with Thunderbird, a more than passable alternative to OE.

Mutt (command line client) is always good though :p:

Maggy 05-07-2004 20:44

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Plonking
Ok,

so I turned on the PC tonight only to find that the genius that is outlook express has decided to delete two massive folders full of emails to do with university and my website. :mad: i have no idea what happened, everything is just *gone*

Fortunately, I backed it all up about a week ago :) but now I want to replace outlook express with a decent mail client. does anyone have any suggestions?

cheers,,

P

Errr...have they been archived?

Plonking 05-07-2004 20:44

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul
Eudora, pegasus mail?
any of these....
http://email.about.com/od/windowsemailclients/ ;)
*waits for a linux client to be mentioned*

cheers :) i'll have a good old looksee and shop around for a bit :) i'm stil confused, i think my pc may have a ghost in it ...!

Plonking 05-07-2004 20:46

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.j.fry
If you insist ;)

I wasn't going to because it was clear that a windows client was required, so I'd agree with Thunderbird, a more than passable alternative to OE.

Mutt (command line client) is always good though :p:

lol, well done philip, although I haven't put linux on this pc yet and even when i get round to it, i doubt that, being me, i would be able to get to grips with a command line client :) thanks for warning me about it though ;) haha

Plonking 05-07-2004 20:47

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Incognitas
Errr...have they been archived?

ahah? what is this archiving thing of which you speak? i've never seen it happen before, but then i've never had OE on XP before. how would i get them back? emails came into them everyday, though, but i'm not sure if it matters... ?

Paul K 05-07-2004 20:51

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
Could try searching your PC for .dbx files?

philip.j.fry 05-07-2004 20:56

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Plonking
lol, well done philip, although I haven't put linux on this pc yet and even when i get round to it, i doubt that, being me, i would be able to get to grips with a command line client :) thanks for warning me about it though ;) haha

Don't worry, it's not the only one :) When you do get Linux set up Ximain's Evolution is a very nice client. It's basically an Outlook lookalike/replacement which is powerful yet easy to use. Of course, Thunderbird will still run on Linux.

Plonking 05-07-2004 20:58

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
good idea!

i managed to find the name of the folder, about 5meg in size, yet can't seem to get oe to import it? i tried creating a new identity and everything, copying the folders across and what have you.. and tried the import messages thing as well, but still no luck.. it refuses to see that little folder! do you know what i am doing wrong?

Paul K 05-07-2004 20:58

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
One good place to start looking for information on OE is
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/probl...s.htm#mailgone might help if the folder is still there somewhere )

Plonking 05-07-2004 21:02

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.j.fry
Don't worry, it's not the only one :) When you do get Linux set up Ximain's Evolution is a very nice client. It's basically an Outlook lookalike/replacement which is powerful yet easy to use. Of course, Thunderbird will still run on Linux.

ah yeah I have played with evolution on the other pc's - it's nice :D i am being lazy not intalling it on here, though - i need to put in a second hard drive as this one is ntfs and it won't shrink to fit in :) i have one spare but hacent' got round to doing it yet.. :)

Maggy 05-07-2004 21:03

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Plonking
ahah? what is this archiving thing of which you speak? i've never seen it happen before, but then i've never had OE on XP before. how would i get them back? emails came into them everyday, though, but i'm not sure if it matters... ?

Every now and then OE asks if I want to archive my emails as I've apparently too many for OE's comfort.I always say no and then I delete the ones I don't want.However it is easy to inadvertantly click yes by mistake as I've done this in the past.I don't know where the archived mail goes so don't ask me. :dunce:

Anyway ever since I've stopped collecting emails I'm not asked to archive them by OE.

Buzzby 05-07-2004 21:06

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
I have got firefox, browserand thunderbird the e-mail client. Not yet installed, but I will get round to it.
This is basically why i am going down this road.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06...itch_explorer/

XP has program access, set defaults etc if you load other browsers/e-mail clients m$ were forced to provide this.
You will have to keep the ms software where it's use is forced on you, ie m$ update or accessing some m$ only websites which only accept ie 5.5+ etc.

:scratch:

Plonking 05-07-2004 21:14

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul
One good place to start looking for information on OE is
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/probl...s.htm#mailgone might help if the folder is still there somewhere )

cheers for the links :) i'll see what i can do - *grr* all the same and *grr* indeed! haha ah well

i see one of the programs there costs that thing called money with a paypal accnt - d'oh i don't have paypal!

**returns a few minutes later after much googling

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=295965

I did what it says here and got the main folder back, although have lost the sub-folder .. will try and find it from a back up :)

thanks y'all..! where would i be without you!?!?!?

Paul K 05-07-2004 21:17

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
If you find your dbx files you can move them back into the right place I think. Been a while since I last broke my accounts ;)

Plonking 05-07-2004 21:18

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Incognitas
Every now and then OE asks if I want to archive my emails as I've apparently too many for OE's comfort.I always say no and then I delete the ones I don't want.However it is easy to inadvertantly click yes by mistake as I've done this in the past.I don't know where the archived mail goes so don't ask me. :dunce:

Anyway ever since I've stopped collecting emails I'm not asked to archive them by OE.

lol, i may have done - although i do leave it turned on for hours on end, so maybe it did something to be *helpful* in the way that windows related stuff likes to do ?!?

dunno, at least i got some stuff back, so it's not a total washout! :D

Plonking 05-07-2004 21:20

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzzby
I have got firefox, browserand thunderbird the e-mail client. Not yet installed, but I will get round to it.
This is basically why i am going down this road.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06...itch_explorer/

XP has program access, set defaults etc if you load other browsers/e-mail clients m$ were forced to provide this.
You will have to keep the ms software where it's use is forced on you, ie m$ update or accessing some m$ only websites which only accept ie 5.5+ etc.

:scratch:

this is scary stuff indeed! hence one of my reasons for moving to linux (When i get round to it) - i am an avid fan of firefox, although it doesn't work on all the pcs we have here, it seems to be quite resource-hungry. it hangs one pc we have with 128mb ram and the other with 324mb goes dead slow. the extensions and skin support is also dead cool :)

Plonking 05-07-2004 21:22

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul
If you find your dbx files you can move them back into the right place I think. Been a while since I last broke my accounts ;)

lol i think i have managed it, although one folder really has gone walkabout :dozey: maybe the intelligent emails i get have somehow merged to form a higher form of intelligence - which then decided it was too clever for my pc so has moved off to some remote corner of the internet to settle down and have kids.

you never know :P

Paul K 05-07-2004 21:24

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
Hmmm think those are saved as .eml files but not too sure :confused: will ask google in a minute ;)

greencreeper 05-07-2004 21:25

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
My email client is discussed here:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...5&page=3&pp=15

Plonking 05-07-2004 21:29

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
lol, i searched for *.eml and my findings consisted of the first two emails i ever recieved .. way back in '98 ! wow! i kept them for sentimental value and crossed them over when i got a new pc :)

still no luck with the mysterious other folder though. just don't know where it has gone ?

Paul K 05-07-2004 21:32

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
1998? Hope you dusted them ;) Will go google for more help ;)

Paul K 05-07-2004 21:38

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
You need to find the .dbx file to get hold of your other emails, are you searching hidden files etc? Your storage folder for Outlook Express is listed in your outlook express, under Tools, options, maintenance, store folder.
This gives more info on where else to look
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/search.htm

Plonking 05-07-2004 21:46

Re: Help me replace Outlook Express.. please!
 
this is really really odd - i found the log file for Oe's compacting of my folders, and my folders were there earlier today. yet now the emails and the folder itself, has completely vanished. one of the folders that vanished - the .dbx file was still on the pc. the other folder has just walked off the edge of the planet - i've searched hidden and system folders, everything i can think of -

i think i'll have to give up the ghost on this one, and use the backup i made tomorrow :dozey:

still, it's very confusing, for a number of reasons:

1. why this happened in the first place
2. why it completely removed one folder but left the other to be put back again

ah well , these things happen :dozey:


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