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kronas 02-07-2004 22:16

major lag cd and dvd burning
 
hi all, i have a problem with my pc when i am burning a cd or dvd the pc lags alot and the dvd burn speed is affected drastically because the buffer fluctuates alot, also nero reports over 100 buffer underruns prevented :erm:


its been happening the past few days, i have made no changes to the system in that time.

anyone know whats going on ?

Tricky 02-07-2004 22:23

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Does your CD Burner use the same IDE channel as the HDU?
Try a Defrag of the HDD or move the temp folder away from the drive with the swapfile
Potentially you've got some bad memory I've found with this error or disk problems

kronas 02-07-2004 22:44

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
the drives are on seperate channels i was thinking about defraging the drive, i hope its not bad memory :erm:, will defrag it tonight and let you know.

thanks tricky :)

SOSAGES 02-07-2004 23:57

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
a nice hard drive is the key to burning - if u can chuck it in a spare pc

good luck have a defrag and a fiddle with the ide channels :)

kronas 03-07-2004 00:16

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
diskeeper trial version says my hard drive is 67% fragmented :Yikes:

kronas 03-07-2004 16:28

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
ok well the defragmentation excercise did not help, neither did the memory test came out all clear :(

paulyoung666 03-07-2004 16:36

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
assuming you are on xp , have you had task manager up when you are burning to see what the processor usage is ????????? :)

when i encode a dvd using dvdshrink it is solid 100% usage , when i burn using nero then it barely uses any processor power at all :)

TheBlueRaja 03-07-2004 16:39

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Yeah, check for a program hogging CPU usage (seti@home?) thats most likely to be the cause especially on slower machines.

kronas 03-07-2004 16:49

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theblueraja
Yeah, check for a program hogging CPU usage (seti@home?) thats most likely to be the cause especially on slower machines.

nothing hogs ram, apart from norton, but its only been happening the past 3 days, it was fine before that :erm:

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
assuming you are on xp , have you had task manager up when you are burning to see what the processor usage is ????????? :)

tried that and it wont bring the task manager up, while im burning.........

paulyoung666 03-07-2004 16:51

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kronas
nothing hogs ram, apart from norton, but its only been happening the past 3 days, it was fine before that :erm:



tried that and it wont bring the task manager up, while im burning.........


bring task manager up before you start burning :)

kronas 03-07-2004 16:56

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
bring task manager up before you start burning :)


system Idle process fluctuates alot 1-89% , also nero goes between 3-90% at times, also happens with other burning progs....

paulyoung666 03-07-2004 17:10

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
can you do a system restore back a couple of days and see if that cures it ?????????? :)

kronas 03-07-2004 17:16

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
can you do a system restore back a couple of days and see if that cures it ?????????? :)


i dont know why but windows xp will not allow me to restore any earlier than yesterday :erm:

paulyoung666 03-07-2004 17:18

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kronas
i dont know why but windows xp will not allow me to restore any earlier than yesterday :erm:


i assume that you have done the usual adaware etc stuff :erm:

homealone 03-07-2004 17:18

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
maybe a silly question - apologies if you have covered this Kronas, but have you checked DMA is enabled for all your drives?

TheBlueRaja 03-07-2004 17:28

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kronas
nothing hogs ram, apart from norton, but its only been happening the past 3 days, it was fine before that :erm:

:erm: CPU usage not ram mate.

kronas 03-07-2004 17:45

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by homealone
maybe a silly question - apologies if you have covered this Kronas, but have you checked DMA is enabled for all your drives?

that was one of the first things i checked all set to 'DMA if available'

Quote:

Originally Posted by theblueraja
:erm: CPU usage not ram mate.


sorry not having a good day , but nothing affects my cpu usage apart from what i stated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
i assume that you have done the usual adaware etc stuff :erm:

yep i do that regulary, just did it now all clean :D

paulyoung666 03-07-2004 17:52

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
and you aint installed xpsp2 have you ????????????? , i have just noticed a weird thing since installing it , kazaalite is acting all kinda weird :erm:

kronas 03-07-2004 17:53

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
and you aint installed xpsp2 have you ????????????? , i have just noticed a weird thing since installing it , kazaalite is acting all kinda weird :erm:


im not that thick lol :D i dont install stuff like that until its final, even then i have to take great consideration in to it actually being worth the effort and risk....

paulyoung666 03-07-2004 18:35

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kronas
im not that thick lol :D i dont install stuff like that until its final, even then i have to take great consideration in to it actually being worth the effort and risk....


fair point :) , just trying to cover all the bases :D :D :D

kronas 04-07-2004 13:06

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
so no one has any other ideas as to how to solve this problem ? :(

Paul 04-07-2004 14:11

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Where is nero's cache set to ?

kronas 04-07-2004 14:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pem
Where is nero's cache set to ?

16mb

Paul 04-07-2004 14:26

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kronas
16mb

Actually I said where - that figure is the minimum reserved size ;)

As it happens I set that to 64 MB but I'm not sure it has any great effect.

kronas 05-07-2004 15:17

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
adding and removing the secondary IDE channel seems to have done the trick.

thanks for all your help guys :)

Salu 05-07-2004 16:30

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Hard drive pre failure? How old is it?

www.adenix.com has a smart explorer you can use

bopdude 05-07-2004 16:39

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kronas
adding and removing the secondary IDE channel seems to have done the trick.

thanks for all your help guys :)

What drives have you got and on which IDE channels are they ?
If as you say everything was ok, then it looks as if you have only bypassed a problem and not fixed the cause :shrug:

Quote:

Originally Posted by salu
Salu Hard drive pre failure? How old is it?

Could be a cause, Had this happen to me a couple of years ago :shrug:

kronas 05-07-2004 16:41

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude
What drives have you got and on which IDE channels are they ?
If as you say everything was ok, then it looks as if you have only bypassed a problem and not fixed the cause :shrug:


primary channel has hard drive.

the secondary IDE channel has a dvd-rom and dvd-rw on it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude
Could be a cause, Had thishappen to me a couple of years ago :shrug:

i dont know if it is the hard drive, the pc is not that old in to its second month.

Steve H 05-07-2004 16:45

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I always tend to run my Hard Drive & DVD/CD on the primary IDE channel, and if I do happen to have a CDRW/DVD then I whack that on the secondary channel.

bopdude 05-07-2004 16:47

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kronas
primary channel has hard drive.

the secondary IDE channel has a dvd-rom and dvd-rw on it

Is that the way it is now ?? Did you have the burner on the same channel as the hard drive ? I've been told that this can cause the underrun problem due to trying to read and write at the same time :dunce: Just what I've been though myself in my sticky fumblings :shrug:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve H
I always tend to run my Hard Drive & DVD/CD on the primary IDE channel, and if I do happen to have a CDRW/DVD then I whack that on the secondary channel.

Yep, as I thought I was told :p:

kronas 05-07-2004 16:51

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude
Is that the way it is now ??

nope, its been like that since day one, im just relieved i solved the problem....

bopdude 05-07-2004 16:55

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kronas
nope, its been like that since day one, im just relieved i solved the problem....

Pleased your up and running again but what did you do that has 'fixed' the problem :confused: :confused:

You say <snip> adding and removing the secondary IDE channel seems to have done the trick. <snip> please explain to me for my future reference :tu:

paulyoung666 05-07-2004 16:59

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude
Pleased your up and running again but what did you do that has 'fixed' the problem :confused: :confused:

You say <snip> adding and removing the secondary IDE channel seems to have done the trick. <snip> please explain to me for my future reference :tu:


i would assume it has been done in device manager , seems weird that doing this cured the problem , never mind if it works then so be it :D :D :D :D

bopdude 05-07-2004 17:05

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
i would assume it has been done in device manager , seems weird that doing this cured the problem , never mind if it works then so be it :D :D :D :D

I didn't know you could remove a whole channel :shrug: :D

Steve H 05-07-2004 17:09

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Yeah, seems weird that it fixed the problem :erm:

Did you remove them from under the IDE ATA/ATAPI tab and then reboot and let the computer find them again?

paulyoung666 05-07-2004 17:11

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude
I didn't know you could remove a whole channel :shrug: :D


just checked in device manager and it appears as though you can the same as any other device , i.e. a dvd player , i didnt do it in case windows didnt find it again :disturbd: :disturbd: :disturbd: :disturbd:

bopdude 05-07-2004 17:15

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
just checked in device manager and it appears as though you can the same as any other device , i.e. a dvd player , i didnt do it in case windows didnt find it again :disturbd: :disturbd: :disturbd: :disturbd:


OK now i'm :confused: I looked but could not see where \ how to remove a whole channel, and even if you could, surely you would need to re-install all drivers for devieces on that channel ??

Just asking not argueing :Peace:


EDIT :
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve H
Yeah, seems weird that it fixed the problem :erm:

Did you remove them from under the IDE ATA/ATAPI tab and then reboot and let the computer find them again?

All is clear now :D

paulyoung666 05-07-2004 17:25

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
you got it in the end , sorry i could have been more specific in where it was in device manager :dozey: me :D :D :D :D

bopdude 05-07-2004 17:32

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
you got it in the end , sorry i could have been more specific in where it was in device manager :dozey: me :D :D :D :D


Not you m8, I have not messed around with this pc much ( not needed to ) lol think its time i got all my spares out and got my hands ( and mind ) dirty and build up a system head scratching and all, back up to speed as it where ...lol :dunce:

kronas 05-07-2004 18:41

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve H
Did you remove them from under the IDE ATA/ATAPI tab and then reboot and let the computer find them again?

yep, i watched my drives dissappear from my computer, rebooted, burned a cd and it worked fine :erm:

kronas 05-07-2004 22:26

Re: major lag cd and dvd burning
 
i got a power calibration error while using ulead video studio noooooooo :(


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