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Nemesis 24-06-2004 16:00

Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Take a look at this

http://www.msn.co.uk/HotmailUpgrade/Default.asp

Richard M 24-06-2004 16:13

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Not likely, now that a lot of you have seen GMail... ;)

gary_580 24-06-2004 16:14

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Just following in the steps of Yahoo i guess.

MadGamer 24-06-2004 17:09

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemesis

Nice One Hotmail :D :D :D

Earl of Bronze 24-06-2004 17:11

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Looks like it, I was a bit surprised when I logged into my Yahoo account to find it was now 100meg storage. Keepin up with th Jones' is good for the customer in this case. :)

aliferste 24-06-2004 17:18

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Hotmail just has a horrible look when I switch between it and gmail .......no way is it a rival :)

punky 24-06-2004 17:56

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Nice of Hotmail to do it.

I reckon though, it will have a significant impact on GMail, because I can check it through Outlook, but I can't, officially with GMail (although someone has done a POP3 server emulation for GMail already. But wether it works, or Google manage to block it, we'll have to see.)

I think people would go down to 1/4 storage if they can use it free in Outlook though.

God knows how much this is costing MS though. 170m users, haing 250meg each? I don't know how much server hard disk space costs bulk, but even if it is half the price of regular client storage, it would still work out like this:

They need (170m x (250/1024)) = 41,480,000 gb
They already have: (170m x 2.5/1024)) = 415,039 gb
They need to acquire: (42,500,000 - 4,250,000) = 37,230,000 gb

Let's assume cost is half the regular end user cost, so £50 per 250gb =

(37,230,000 / 250) * 50 = £7,446, 000

7.4 million quid, if my maths is correct, which it probably isn't. Actually, that is peanuts to them, but felt bigger in my head.

Richard M 24-06-2004 18:02

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Yes, but the majority of users won't even use 1MB.

aliferste 24-06-2004 18:16

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard M
Yes, but the majority of users won't even use 1MB.

Im considering when it opens officially to start storing all my word documents, journal articles and other documents in a gmail account.....I could then use the search facility to find the ones I want when I need them
:)

Derek 24-06-2004 18:25

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
I wonder if they'll improve the spam filtering.

I've got two hotmail accounts. One is pretty good at filtering the crap out but the other still pumps it directly into the inbox despite being on the same settings.

The stranger thing is a lot of the messages are (almost) the same in box accounts.

Mal 24-06-2004 18:27

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
All the spam that I get, won't take me over the limit now! ;)

dilli-theclaw 24-06-2004 18:30

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aliferste
Im considering when it opens officially to start storing all my word documents, journal articles and other documents in a gmail account.....I could then use the search facility to find the ones I want when I need them
:)

Just as long as they don't have anything personel in them.... I must admit I plan to store quite a bit of stuff on there too. But it will be in password protected .rar format.

Gareth 25-06-2004 12:22

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
It's definitely a case of MS playing catch-up to GMail. They didn't need to bother when Yahoo offered 6MB instead of Hotmail's paltry 2MB, but GMail's offering is so much larger that it's forced MS to react.

After sending and receiving numerous mails to and from my new GMail account (thanks again Richard M :) ) over the past couple of days, I still think GMail has better functionality than Hotmail. Maybe it's just cause it's still new, but I prefer the GMail way - I seem to be forever clicking to access next page after next page after next page to get to mails. GMail certainly seems to have taken considered usability very seriously :)

Richard M 25-06-2004 13:31

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Micro$oft employee sez:
Quote:

Hotmail is aggresively moving to make storage a non issue any more (in light of gmail and yahoo's recent offerings).
http://blogs.msdn.com/omars/archive/...24/164306.aspx

:rofl:

aliferste 25-06-2004 13:36

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Plus the fact when you click on a link in hotmail there is that rediculous bar across the top of teh screen :td:

bbwannabe 25-06-2004 14:10

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
i wonder how many premium users will drop their accounts cos they no longer need 2GB and 250MB is sufficient. That'll cost MS.

Damien 25-06-2004 14:31

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Also ad-words is no where near as ugly and intrusive as it the ads in hotmail

aliferste 25-06-2004 15:02

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
Also ad-words is no where near as ugly and intrusive as it the ads in hotmail

I hae actually noticed the adverts being aimed at the things that is in my emails.....so far ive been happy with it....dont notice it unless you really want to :)

Damien 25-06-2004 17:08

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aliferste
I hae actually noticed the adverts being aimed at the things that is in my emails.....so far ive been happy with it....dont notice it unless you really want to :)

Yep you do not notice it if you dont want to although i have had some weird experiences with it

Gareth 25-06-2004 17:54

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
I have seen some weird 'page can not be found' errors in the ad-words.... not sure if it's cause it's still in beta, or if it's cause I write some weird and freaky emails. In either case, they're not an issue for me.

MadGamer 08-08-2004 17:54

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Has the Upgrade to Hotmail happened yet?

Gareth 08-08-2004 22:20

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne A
Has the Upgrade to Hotmail happened yet?

Not on one of my old Hotmail accounts - have just checked it now, and it's still showing at 2MB maximum mailbox usage

homealone 08-08-2004 22:48

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GDW1975
Not on one of my old Hotmail accounts - have just checked it now, and it's still showing at 2MB maximum mailbox usage

the antivirus/spam filter has been recently installed. It seems to be working.

For example, I have forwarded a 'problem' ntl account to my hotmail address.

Instead of the 60 a day average spam messages in the ntl account, I'm getting maybe 5 in junk/bulk mail folders in my hotmail ;)

bb31 08-08-2004 22:57

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Must have upgraded on my hotmail too, just logged on and suprisingly only 20 spam mails have been recieved over the past few days, where usually it would be 70-100!!!

MadGamer 18-11-2004 17:38

Re: Hotmail to Rival GMail ??
 
Woohoo mines been upgraded to 250MB


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