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Damien 12-06-2004 19:48

MERGED - Euro 2004
 
Euro 2004 talk

This is a topic set up to discuss euro 2004, it is set up so that euro 2004 does not enter into the football discussion topic and end up confusing topics such as transfers and what have you. Permission was granted by a mod in football discussion

So talk about matches and draws here and the chances for each team of winning the tournament.

Links you may find useful
BBC matchs wallchart
BBC Euro 2004
Euro 2004 site

So what do people think of the hosts losing their first game?

MadGamer 12-06-2004 19:57

Re: Euro 2004
 
Portugal 1 Greece 2

Don't forget the Spian vs Russia match at 7:45pm

Russ 12-06-2004 20:16

Re: Euro 2004
 
I'll go on record and say there is no way on earth England will win, if they do I'll become a Gooner fan for the entire 2004-05 season :)

Tricky 12-06-2004 20:23

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
I'll go on record and say there is no way on earth England will win, if they do I'll become a Gooner fan for the entire 2004-05 season :)

And my prediction is they won't even see the quarters! - They'll come 3rd in the group losing out on goal difference...
:shocked:

danielf 12-06-2004 20:24

Re: Euro 2004
 
I think Portugal were very poor. There were so many crosses from the left with noone on the receiving end in the second half... A good performance by the Greeks though...

Damien 12-06-2004 20:31

Re: Euro 2004
 
I have put a £15 pound bet on germany to win, although they are not my favorites to actually win they had odds of 16-1 and germany are a good side so i thought it was worth it

Avrils_knickers 12-06-2004 20:33

Re: Euro 2004
 
no wonder portugal lost ronaldo was playing

Russ 12-06-2004 20:34

Re: Euro 2004
 
eh?

Damien 12-06-2004 20:37

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Avrils_knickers
no wonder portugal lost ronaldo was playing

1) Thats a real bad joke
2) if it isn't a joke then you really shouldn't be talking about football

paulyoung666 12-06-2004 21:19

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
I'll go on record and say there is no way on earth England will win, if they do I'll become a Gooner fan for the entire 2004-05 season :)



oh i do so hope you are proved wrong :D :D :D :D :D

Russ 12-06-2004 21:31

Re: Euro 2004
 
We both know it won't happen ;)

paulyoung666 12-06-2004 21:41

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
We both know it won't happen ;)


me feels a wager coming on , now what shall it be ????????????? :D :D :D :D

Damien 12-06-2004 21:52

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
me feels a wager coming on , now what shall it be ????????????? :D :D :D :D

I tell you what if england win I will give you a rep point if they lose you will send me £100. What'ya say

paulyoung666 12-06-2004 22:10

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
I tell you what if england win I will give you a rep point if they lose you will send me £100. What'ya say


ahhhhhh now i was thinking more of a virtual wager , £100 is a bit rich for me :D :D :D :D :D

Damien 12-06-2004 22:17

Re: Euro 2004
 
Fine, I will make a virtual bet but its got to be something good

Paul 12-06-2004 22:22

Re: Euro 2004
 
Tell you what Damien - since you want to bet reps - If England win I will green rep you, if they don't, I will red rep you. You do the same (win = red rep me, lose = green rep me). :D

Marge 12-06-2004 22:29

Re: Euro 2004
 
I think Italy will do it, might be worth a small flutter

Proppinupthebar 12-06-2004 22:32

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
I'll go on record and say there is no way on earth England will win, if they do I'll become a Gooner fan for the entire 2004-05 season :)

If Wales win, I'll move and declare my love of Lancashire.

Hang on, Wales never qualify do they.

I frickin hate Scumshire.

:D

Russ 12-06-2004 22:40

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Proppinupthebar
If Wales win, I'll move and declare my love of Lancashire.

Hang on, Wales never qualify do they.

I frickin hate Scumshire.

:D

A traditional English tactic - when someone makes a negative comment about yout national team, instead of defending it, take the cheap way out instead by attacking their team :D

Damien 12-06-2004 22:42

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pem
Tell you what Damien - since you want to bet reps - If England win I will green rep you, if they don't, I will red rep you. You do the same (win = red rep me, lose = green rep me). :D

\

Hey Hey Hey

I dont think england will win I an betting against england

Paul 12-06-2004 22:45

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
\

Hey Hey Hey

I dont think england will win I an betting against england

Damn - you spotted my plan ... :)

MadGamer 12-06-2004 22:45

Re: Euro 2004
 
Spain 1 Russia 0

paulyoung666 12-06-2004 22:48

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pem
Tell you what Damien - since you want to bet reps - If England win I will green rep you, if they don't, I will red rep you. You do the same (win = red rep me, lose = green rep me). :D


wouldnt that be rep anhilation (sp) though , hang on i thought i was betting with russ anyway :D :D :D :D

Proppinupthebar 12-06-2004 22:50

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
A traditional English tactic - when someone makes a negative comment about yout national team, instead of defending it, take the cheap way out instead by attacking their team :D

The traditional Welsh tactic, don't qualify!! Works everytime.

Saves money I suppose. No need for a Trophy Cabinet!! ;)

I still hate Scumshire.

:D

Proppinupthebar 12-06-2004 22:51

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WNA
Spain 1 Russia 0

I've got Spain in our sweepstake.

Mal 12-06-2004 22:57

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Proppinupthebar
I still hate Scumshire.

:D

Don't worry, the feeling is mutual! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proppinupthebar
I've got Spain in our sweepstake.

I've got Portugal in ours. I thought that they'd at least get to the semis, where I'd get my money back! Though it's not over till the fat lady sings ;)

Steve H 12-06-2004 22:58

Re: Euro 2004
 
The ref in the spain/russia match was a disgrace.

Whats the point in flipping yellow carding a player for making a challange. Most of, if not all of the supposed Yellow card challanges were dubious.., For example that Russia guy who got sent off... He went for the ball and got nutmegged!? What's he supposed to do? Disapear ?!

Quite obvious that ref has never kicked a ball in his life.

paulyoung666 12-06-2004 23:06

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve H
The ref in the spain/russia match was a disgrace.

Whats the point in flipping yellow carding a player for making a challange. Most of, if not all of the supposed Yellow card challanges were dubious.., For example that Russia guy who got sent off... He went for the ball and got nutmegged!? What's he supposed to do? Disapear ?!

Quite obvious that ref has never kicked a ball in his life.


not wrong i reckon that bodycheck was disgraceful , and the ref went so what :mad: :mad: :mad: , i hope the standard improves :tu:

Marge 12-06-2004 23:10

Re: Euro 2004
 
Just watching 100 Greatest World Cup Moments and Wales's last appearance was 1958 :rofl: :erm:

Russ 12-06-2004 23:13

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
me feels a wager coming on , now what shall it be ????????????? :D :D :D :D

I'm not a gambling man but if you notice, I've already said I'd be an Arse fan for the entire 2004-05 season :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debsy42
Just watching 100 Greatest World Cup Moments and Wales's last appearance was 1958

....just 8 years before the last time England won anything :) :D

Proppinupthebar 12-06-2004 23:20

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
I'm not a gambling man but if you notice, I've already said I'd be an Arse fan for the entire 2004-05 season :)



....just 8 years before the last time England won anything :) :D

We've qualified a few times since tho.

The welsh are an extremely proud nation. But why?

Hehe, that should get a reaction!!! :angel:

Russ 12-06-2004 23:24

Re: Euro 2004
 
Ahh, I get it, you can only be proud of your country if your national team does well!!

And there's me thinking it was only Man United supporters who were glory hunters!

Marge 12-06-2004 23:28

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
Ahh, I get it, you can only be proud of your country if your national team does well!!

And there's me thinking it was only Man United supporters who were glory hunters!

Come on Russ, tell us all about Wales's proudest moments................

I'm got a spare postage stamp you can write on the back of :D :D

Russ 12-06-2004 23:30

Re: Euro 2004
 
Beating Argentina about 2 years ago, beating Germany around the same time.....getting the closest to qualifying in the Euro games in 30 years, not bad for a team which gets about a 10th of the funding that England does!

Proppinupthebar 12-06-2004 23:30

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
Ahh, I get it, you can only be proud of your country if your national team does well!!

And there's me thinking it was only Man United supporters who were glory hunters!

I'm a Doncaster Rovers supporter. We aren't many and all of us expect the worse.

If my national team are doing well then I have something to talk about, I don't just spout nonsense because I am english.

What exactly are you so proud of? :p:

Russ 12-06-2004 23:33

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Proppinupthebar
What exactly are you so proud of? :p:

See the above plus when we beat Italy too :)

But of course, unless we qualify for each major tournament (and end up failing to get past the quarter/semi finals year after year, each time coming out with new and better excuses such as "it was Beckham's fault" and "it was Southgate's fault" and the more recent "it was Seaman's fault") then we simply don't have the right to be proud, do we??

Still - Owen says England can do it this year (just like Becks said they could win it last time) so success is certain, isn't it??? :D

Proppinupthebar 12-06-2004 23:46

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
See the above plus when we beat Italy too :)

But of course, unless we qualify for each major tournament (and end up failing to get past the quarter/semi finals year after year, each time coming out with new and better excuses such as "it was Beckham's fault" and "it was Southgate's fault" and the more recent "it was Seaman's fault") then we simply don't have the right to be proud, do we??

Still - Owen says England can do it this year (just like Becks said they could win it last time) so success is certain, isn't it??? :D

So your proud cos you don't get anywhere but occasionally win the odd game!!
Same thing as Donny Rovers then!!

Except we have been promoted two years running!!!
Dave Penney's Red and White army marches on!!!

Russ 13-06-2004 00:38

Re: Euro 2004
 
We're proud because they're our national team.....but of course it shows great depth of character when you are only proud when your national team does well.....what do they call that? Fair-weather supporting? :D

Aww come on, let's all get behind England - I don't really wish them to fail in the semi/quarter finals.....even though deep down we all know they will!

Mal 13-06-2004 00:40

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
We're proud because they're our national team.....but of course it shows great depth of character when you are only proud when your national team does well.....what do they call that? Fair-weather supporting? :D

Aww come on, let's all get behind England - I don't really wish them to fail in the semi/quarter finals.....even though deep down we all know they will!

Aww come on...I wanted Wales to get to the finals...but that may be just because Sparky is in charge ;)

Proppinupthebar 13-06-2004 00:41

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
We're proud because they're our national team.....but of course it shows great depth of character when you are only proud when your national team does well.....what do they call that? Fair-weather supporting? :D

Aww come on, let's all get behind England - I don't really wish them to fail in the semi/quarter finals.....even though deep down we all know they will!

Good for you.

To be fair I don't follow football, except for Donny Rovers. I probably won't even watch England tommorow. Unless the fairweather england supporter in my girlfriend wants to!!

Damien 13-06-2004 00:47

Re: Euro 2004
 
what are you strange funny people on about?

Cant we all just agree we wont win?

Russ 13-06-2004 00:49

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
Cant we all just agree we wont win?

Now this is a first......an Arse fan makes a suggestion and I agree 100% :eek: :D

danielf 13-06-2004 00:56

Re: Euro 2004
 
Oh dear. I was hoping this thread was going to about sensible discussion concerning the day's matches, but I see it's quickly degraded into a home nations slanging match.

To Debs: Yes, I'm watching C4 right now. Great stuff!

Damien 13-06-2004 01:05

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
Now this is a first......an Arse fan makes a suggestion and I agree 100% :eek: :D

Ohhhhh what about these then....
  1. Henry is the greatest
  2. Monster raving loony party should win next election
  3. Elvis is still alive
  4. I know the meaning of life
  5. The real leader of the free word is, of course, paul merton
  6. I see dead people (on tv, in old films)
  7. the list is over

Russ 13-06-2004 01:06

Re: Euro 2004
 
BS to the first 6 :D

But this thread was mant to be about England's latest failure....erm, I mean Euro 2004.

Mal 13-06-2004 01:07

Re: Euro 2004
 
Sorry, but can we get back on topic please! :D

Desaily(sp?) out, will that be a help or not?

There, a serious question! :D

Damien 13-06-2004 01:09

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf
Oh dear. I was hoping this thread was going to about sensible discussion concerning the day's matches, but I see it's quickly degraded into a home nations slanging match.

To Debs: Yes, I'm watching C4 right now. Great stuff!


ARRHHHHHH PIERS MORGON....NOOOOOO....HE STILL IS THERE! GOD HELP US...GOD HELP US ALL...especially me

Damien 13-06-2004 01:11

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mal
Sorry, but can we get back on topic please! :D

Desaily(sp?) out, will that be a help or not?

There, a serious question! :D

Well if he is out because he has become our new defender than its good news

on the other hand we will be to worried about keeping the french away from the goal to worry about the other end

Mal 13-06-2004 01:15

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
Well if he is out because he has become our new defender than its good news

on the other hand we will be to worried about keeping the french away from the goal to worry about the other end

Pardon? :confused:

danielf 13-06-2004 01:47

Re: Euro 2004
 
I was impressed by Spain today. They should have scored more, but they played a high pace game and always looked threatening (especially in the first half hour).

For now, Greece and Spain seem most likely to get to the quarters. Before anyone writes off Greece, they topped the qualifying group that also featured Spain. They actually beat them in Spain...

Damien 13-06-2004 01:51

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mal
Pardon? :confused:

thats what i mean, too many locks not enough doors, oh yes

Mal 13-06-2004 01:54

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf
I was impressed by Spain today. They should have scored more, but they played a high pace game and always looked threatening (especially in the first half hour).

For now, Greece and Spain seem most likely to get to the quarters. Before anyone writes off Greece, they topped the qualifying group that also featured Spain. They actually beat them in Spain...

Though, according to Motty, they only scored 8 goals throughout the qualifiers, which means they must have a good defence at least ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
thats what i mean, too many locks not enough doors, oh yes

Okay :dozey: :erm:

sir_drinks_alot 13-06-2004 02:37

Re: Euro 2004
 
note to england team

don't go breaking my hart :)

carlingman 13-06-2004 03:52

Re: Euro 2004
 
Amazes me how much hatred from Man U fans are shown towards Gooner/Chelsea/Liverpool players throughout the season yet when the likes of Cole/Gerrard/Owen and Co are representing England then all seems to be forgotten.

BBKing 13-06-2004 10:15

Re: Euro 2004
 
Well, I dislike Man U intensely but I'm willing to admit that Paul Scholes is a very talented player (apart from tackling). Ditto Chelsea and Lampard.

I think it'll be tight tonight, I'm not convinced France are going to come out all gun(ners) blazing, but I just think they've got the edge in a couple of key areas (wide midfield and creative play mainly). They aren't unbeatable, I'm not impressed by Barthez, Thuram at centerback, Makelele with his Chelsea form or Trezeguet up front.

Russ 13-06-2004 10:17

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlingman
Amazes me how much hatred from Man U fans are shown towards Gooner/Chelsea/Liverpool players throughout the season yet when the likes of Cole/Gerrard/Owen and Co are representing England then all seems to be forgotten.

I agree - it was amazing how hated Beckham was when he was at United - now he's in Spain, it seems to have been 'forgotten'.

timewarrior2001 13-06-2004 10:33

Re: Euro 2004
 
England have 4 hopes of winning anything.

Bob Hope
No Hope
Envel hope
and .....


Antel hope.

I'd sooner bet on which flight they will be arriving back at Luton on.

Probably the first one out of portugal I'd say around the 21st June :p:

Avrils_knickers 13-06-2004 12:49

Re: Euro 2004
 
Enlgand are playing wales soon in october i think,so we will see then.

I think spain did play well in a way they are like england a talented team,but never seem to make it past the quater finals.What is wrong with some english people always slagging there own team off,at least we qualify which is more than a lot of other countries we should eb proud of that.

Russ 13-06-2004 13:58

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Avrils_knickers
Enlgand are playing wales soon in october i think,so we will see then.

We'll see 'what' then?

Damien 13-06-2004 14:22

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
We'll see 'what' then?

England vs Wales

sherer 13-06-2004 14:26

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf
I was impressed by Spain today. They should have scored more, but they played a high pace game and always looked threatening (especially in the first half hour).

For now, Greece and Spain seem most likely to get to the quarters. Before anyone writes off Greece, they topped the qualifying group that also featured Spain. They actually beat them in Spain...

I'm supporting Spain as my other team because England have no chance of winning it. It's abit like watching England as they have alot of talent just never put it all together. Was expecting more from Spain yesterday they didn't play that well in the final third as would have liked to have seen Juaqin start as well

Damien 13-06-2004 14:56

Re: Euro 2004
 
I am supporting germany as my second team as i win £80 if they win and then france cos i am half french and they play great football

danielf 13-06-2004 15:04

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
I am supporting germany as my second team

And you're coming onto a public forum to admit that? :Yikes: :disturbd: (jk :) )

Russ 13-06-2004 15:04

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
England vs Wales


Well yes that's obvious but the original comment looked as if something will be 'sorted out' then :confused:

Graham F 13-06-2004 15:08

Re: Euro 2004
 
roll on tonight England v France...

I will be sitting in a bar in the south of France when England win... just cant wait :)

2 - 1 to England I think..

danielf 13-06-2004 19:54

Re: Euro 2004
 
Switzerland-Croatia 0-0

I don't think either of these teams will be a threat to England or France.

It looks like tonight's match is for place one and two in the group...

Marge 13-06-2004 19:55

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby
roll on tonight England v France...

I will be sitting in a bar in the south of France when England win... just cant wait :)

2 - 1 to England I think..

Hi Scooby, have got your pm and sorting it out for you :tu:

Enjoy the match and the sunshine :wavey:

paulyoung666 13-06-2004 20:15

Re: Euro 2004
 
come on england


come on england

come on england

come on england

:D :D :D :D :D :D

Damien 13-06-2004 20:32

Re: Euro 2004
 
Here we go! If we lose this i am dead (my mums french)

Russ 13-06-2004 21:26

Re: Euro 2004
 
They've scored?!?

Paul 13-06-2004 21:29

Re: Euro 2004
 
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssss !!

Stuart 13-06-2004 21:31

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pem
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssss !!

*sings 1-0, 1-0, 1-0, 1-0 ad infinitum..

Damien 13-06-2004 21:32

Re: Euro 2004
 
Please Please Please please

keep it up

TigaSefi 13-06-2004 21:33

Re: Euro 2004
 
lol, great match, evenly poised :D Roll on Second half.....

kronas 13-06-2004 21:33

Re: Euro 2004
 
wtf england 1-0 up against france, after 11 games they concede wtf....

that was a great first half preformance, as i always said owen is crap, gary neville needs to push down the right handside more often though, and lampard needs to go forward more instead of his deep role....

he did go forward for the freekick though :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
Please Please Please please

keep it up


if they play like that i might start believing that they can win this match, even go further in the tourniment (my prediction quarter final stage)

MadGamer 13-06-2004 21:34

Re: Euro 2004
 
Did you hear what the fans were saying to the French? "Your not singing, your not singing, your not singing anymore. Your not singing anymore."

Nice free kick by Beckham

Stuart 13-06-2004 21:46

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
They've scored?!?

Russ.. You know what the papers will be full of tommorrow now... :D

Russ 13-06-2004 21:47

Re: Euro 2004
 
Yeah - BS ;) :D

Stuart 13-06-2004 21:50

Re: Euro 2004
 
I just have to say it again. 1-0 :D

kronas 13-06-2004 22:03

Re: Euro 2004
 
ah........they are letting france back in to the game......thats dangerous, rooney needs to watch himself.....

Tricky 13-06-2004 22:10

Re: Euro 2004
 
Who on earth employed Bobby Robson as a commentator on ITV (Where's the FanZone Option?) - England are looking well dodgy at present.

Marge 13-06-2004 22:12

Re: Euro 2004
 
Glad to see Owen off, he's hardly done anything at all. Come on England, two more goals please :D

Tricky 13-06-2004 22:15

Re: Euro 2004
 
Beckham = T****R
Should have let Rooney take it

Paul 13-06-2004 22:16

Re: Euro 2004
 
Noooooooooo - what a **** poor penalty :(

kronas 13-06-2004 22:19

Re: Euro 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricky
Beckham = T****R
Should have let Rooney take it


too harsh, he has taken penalty's before and they have usally gone in.

were still winning....

taking rooney and scholes off = bad idea as they both were playing well......

Paul K 13-06-2004 22:28

Re: Euro 2004
 
Rooney was waaaay too close to a red card to be left on the pitch. Not long to go now and then we can all remind Russ about the score ;)
*waits for equaliser ;) and possible banning for inciting the latest DVLA recruit to violence against his keyboard*

Paul 13-06-2004 22:30

Re: Euro 2004
 
/bites nails furiously .......

Marge 13-06-2004 22:30

Re: Euro 2004
 
I'm having palpitations here and bawling at the tv :fit:

Stuart 13-06-2004 22:32

Re: Euro 2004
 
Good stuff this.

mrm1 13-06-2004 22:32

Re: Euro 2004
 
3 min Extra time......Edge of seat stuff. Free kick to france. I cany look !!!

Stuart 13-06-2004 22:33

Re: Euro 2004
 
Damn!

mrm1 13-06-2004 22:33

Re: Euro 2004
 
Arrrrrrgh 1-1

Paul K 13-06-2004 22:33

Re: Euro 2004
 
1-1 what a suprise. Last minute lack of concentration again :(

Paul 13-06-2004 22:33

Re: Euro 2004
 
****

Stuart 13-06-2004 22:34

Re: Euro 2004
 
Come On!

Paul K 13-06-2004 22:34

Re: Euro 2004
 
oh dear, looks like we are in bother

Paul 13-06-2004 22:34

Re: Euro 2004
 
Wtf

kronas 13-06-2004 22:34

Re: Euro 2004
 
a spectacular free kick by zinedine zidane......

EDIT: wtf did james do ? zidane steps up to take the penalty.... 2-1 to france :erm:

Marge 13-06-2004 22:34

Re: Euro 2004
 
****ing Hell It's All Gone To Pot

mrm1 13-06-2004 22:35

Re: Euro 2004
 
:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:


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