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andrew_wallasey 16-06-2004 22:25

original NTL areas
 
Are there areas which ntl built? What year did ntl start building networks? If i remember our area was done in about 1994 and we had service quite quickly after they ducted our road.

I rememeber watching them doing the ducting and they litterally just threw it in. It was quite amazing actually how fast they did it all.

scrotnig 16-06-2004 22:58

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Some areas were built by Cabletel, which was the company Barclay Knapp started which became ntl in time.

paulyoung666 16-06-2004 23:05

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i was originally comcast , not sure if that was a ntl company or not , am i talking ***** , yup probably :D :D :D :D

Proppinupthebar 16-06-2004 23:12

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The original Cabletel areas were Kirklees, Luton, Guildford, Belfast, Cardiff, Swansea and Glasgow.

poolking 16-06-2004 23:15

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Not forgetting there was also Comtel, I know they used to cover the Stafford area.

Mal 16-06-2004 23:19

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We were Nynex. They did our area around 1994.

homealone 16-06-2004 23:30

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Diamond Cable, here :)

MikeyB 16-06-2004 23:56

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Used to be Swindon Cable (gosh, those were the days, many years ago...), then Comtel here, before it became NTL

scrotnig 17-06-2004 00:16

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Leeds was Jones Cable Group, then Bell CableMedia, then Cable and Wireless, then ntl.

manchester was Nynex, then Cable and Wireless, then ntl.

clayts 17-06-2004 01:29

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Originally Posted by homealone
Diamond Cable, here :)

Ditto - still got their branding on my wall socket :)

kronas 17-06-2004 01:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Proppinupthebar
The original Cabletel areas were Kirklees, Luton, Guildford, Belfast, Cardiff, Swansea and Glasgow.

i can still remember when the idiot contracters cut our power supply :mad: :2up: :afire:

Nikko 17-06-2004 01:37

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Originally Posted by clayts
Ditto - still got their branding on my wall socket :)

Shine on, you crazy Diamond

Paul 17-06-2004 02:00

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Originally Posted by clayts
Ditto - still got their branding on my wall socket :)

Yep - good old Diamond sockets on my wall as well. :D

homealone 17-06-2004 02:05

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Originally Posted by clayts
Ditto - still got their branding on my wall socket :)

ditto back at ya :)

both my wall plates display a Diamond Cable logo - one feeds a phone ;)

the other feeds an analogue tv + family pack Scientific Atlanta stb & an ntl:home modem.

andrew_wallasey 17-06-2004 11:59

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I think the new (well theyre not that new lmao) smooth ntl isolator houses are quite smart. I didnt like the old cable & wireless ones.

Tezcatlipoca 18-06-2004 00:55

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Used to be "Cambridge Cable" here & parts of the surrounding area. Can't remember when it changed to NTL. I think I remember an "Anglia Cable" too in some places around here which weren't Camb Cable.

Chrysalis 18-06-2004 03:09

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think it was diamond cable in leicester or cable and wireless, and those days were so much better, sky movies used to show premium films (pay as you go now), mtv used to play music almost all the time rather then just interviews and stuff and sky sports had all the football on. Also had that split screen channel which showed all the channels.

Pierre 23-06-2004 13:20

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Technically speaking there are no original ntl areas as ntl was not a cable tv provider.

As mentioned earlier the closest to original ntl is cabletel.

Escapee 23-06-2004 13:59

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Originally Posted by Pierre
Technically speaking there are no original ntl areas as ntl was not a cable tv provider.

As mentioned earlier the closest to original ntl is cabletel.

I have been slated and accused of misleading people when putting that point straight in the past!

Cabletel were a tin-pot operation that stemmed from Ocom communications, they bought a couple of existing franchise areas that had been owned by Rediffusion/Maxwell/Metro Cable TV in Guildford and Cardiff, they had a very bad reputation in the early days and many of the employees left a lot to be desired as they were ones that Rediffusion/Maxwell and Metro had already got rid of. I worked for a company that was taken over by them and shortly after they bought NTL and used the name because it was better known in the business community.

The original ntl Broadcast and Radio employees were generally not very impressed with the bunch of amateur cowboys that had taken them over. Cabletel management changed contracts of employments and tried lots of tricks to get them to loose their benefits that stemmed from their government owned days.

I wonder if any of the original ntl employees have changed their minds and think the treatment of employees has improved? :rolleyes:

I suppose we could really say that Rediffusion/British Cable Services/ British CableTV/Maxwell CableTV/Metro Cable TV were the original operators, only they never actually built anything on a large scale.

Stu038 23-06-2004 14:40

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
think it was diamond cable in leicester or cable and wireless, and those days were so much better,

Started as Leicester Communications Limited in 90/91, rebranded to Leicester Cable Limited a couple of years later and then again to LCL (the first MSO to go into the black) when they were bought out by Nottingham based Diamond Cable. Who were eventually bought out by ntl.

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
Also had that split screen channel which showed all the channels.

Yes the loss of the Montage was a shame but it had to go to make way for the digital channels.

bob_builder 23-06-2004 14:44

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Originally Posted by Escapee
The original ntl Broadcast and Radio employees were generally not very impressed with the bunch of amateur cowboys that had taken them over.

Funny that, before NTL took over Cambridge Cable it was well known here by the alternative names Cowboy Cable or Cambridge Cowboys!

Mr_Burns 23-06-2004 18:57

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Originally Posted by Escapee
I wonder if any of the original ntl employees have changed their minds and think the treatment of employees has improved? :rolleyes:

If it's possible it's got worse :(

Dave Stones 23-06-2004 19:37

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Originally Posted by kronas
i can still remember when the idiot contracters cut our power supply :mad: :2up: :afire:

should have seen what they did in dewsbury then. straight through the main water main to the town, about 100ft high geyser ;)

they didn't do anything by me, except dig up a newly laid pavement and road to put their trenches in...

was NTL Cabletel by the way, thats what it says on the socket :)

Mal 23-06-2004 22:28

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Originally Posted by Dave Stones
should have seen what they did in dewsbury then. straight through the main water main to the town, about 100ft high geyser ;)

they didn't do anything by me, except dig up a newly laid pavement and road to put their trenches in...

was NTL Cabletel by the way, thats what it says on the socket :)

When Nynex did our area, they were always cutting the power lines, Norweb had a van on patrol because of it. They used to block shop doorways and driveways with the trenches.

kronas 23-06-2004 23:35

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Originally Posted by Dave Stones
should have seen what they did in dewsbury then. straight through the main water main to the town, about 100ft high geyser ;)

:rofl:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Stones
they didn't do anything by me, except dig up a newly laid pavement and road to put their trenches in...

lucky git

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Stones
was NTL Cabletel by the way, thats what it says on the socket :)

indeed it was. :)

altis 24-06-2004 00:49

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Not sure how up-to-date it is but here is a list of postcodes for ex Cable and Wireless areas that I cribbed from .com
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/altisuk/temp/xcwc.txt

andrew_wallasey 29-06-2004 14:54

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We didnt have any problems, it was as if Nynex had never been within a few days.

DeadKenny 06-07-2004 14:25

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Originally Posted by Proppinupthebar
The original Cabletel areas were Kirklees, Luton, Guildford, Belfast, Cardiff, Swansea and Glasgow.

I assume it's the same with the others mentioned here, but Guildford is Guildford and surrounding areas. e.g. Woking is original CableTel and I know it extends into several other towns in the area.

I was on CableTel in Guildford back in 1997, moved to Woking and got CableTel there (after much hassle:mad: ), then CableTel bought into NTL and the bills started saying CableTel/NTL, then they started buying other franchises until finally buying old Cable & Wireless franchises. At some point (I forget when) they dropped the other names and it all became just NTL.

Standard of service between CableTel and NTL over the years has been as always shockingly bad, so if you wonder where their reputation comes from, it's CableTel ;).

Stephen Robb 09-07-2004 03:52

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Reading started out with Telecentral in 1994, changed to Comtel about 97/98 and ended up as ntl: about 00/01!

Pierre 09-07-2004 13:10

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Standard of service between CableTel and NTL over the years has been as always shockingly bad, so if you wonder where their reputation comes from, it's CableTel .
Cabletel actually was one of the better performing cable companies and had a very high penetration rate and very little churn.

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At some point (I forget when) they dropped the other names and it all became just NTL.
1999

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Reading started out with Telecentral in 1994,
Telecential

Stephen Robb 09-07-2004 13:15

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Well it was ten years ago Pierre!:eek: :dunce:


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