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imback 09-06-2004 00:07

please help me
 
I'm stuck so again I turn to you guys.

I have a PC (win XP) and an Acer Laptop (XP) they were networked via a belkin wirelsss router, and all was working fine.

But, me being me, I didn't like the 10 gig of the harddrive I was losing due to Acers partition so I thought no problem I'll format and install XP Pro on it.

So I do that, installed the drivers from the Acer CD and everything shows as installed and working but I can't get my wireless connetion back.

My Desktop is connecting to the net fine (it's wired to the router), I have re set the router, re booted everything in order, but the only way I can can get my laptop on line is to hard wire it to the router.

I have tried reinstalling the wireless card driver etc etc.

The wireless card is listed as "LAN - Express" and can't seem to find an updated driver for it.

Also one odd thing is I can't access my routers internal page, the instructions said use 192.168.2.0 but this has never worked but it did if I changed the 1 to a 0 but now I get an auto search, any help????

Marge 09-06-2004 00:11

Re: please help me
 
May be of no help at all but my address is 192.168.1.1 :shrug:

Chris W 09-06-2004 00:24

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If you connect the laptop straight to the router can it connect?

what ip is the lappy getting on the wireless connnection?

can you ping 192.168.2.0 from the laptop? how about from the desktop?

do you have any wireless security setup on the router?

imback 09-06-2004 00:28

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Yeah if I connect laptop via the Realtek nic it works fine with an IP of 192.168.2.13

If I try to ping 192.168.2.0 I get destination invalid form the dos prompt.

I have set up no security as far as I know, all I have done is install XP pro instead of the version of XP home that was on there.

I get the feeling the problem is with the drivers/wireless nic but seems odd that I can't get the router internal page on this machine that is connected to the net fine.

Chris W 09-06-2004 00:35

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does the wireless card in the laptop detect the connection? is it a pcmcia card (if so what brand) or built in?

IIRC the ip address for the router should be 192.168.2.1... but i am not sure. try this instead.

can you get on the router config page from anywhere or not? If so check on the desktop what the default gateway is will show you the routers ip. Try this in the browser. make sure you have no proxy server specified.

imback 09-06-2004 00:44

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ok have taken out the proxy and can now get router page on my desktop (my bad sorry).

Ok as for the wiress nic on the laptop, it is built in, it detects it and installs the driver (form the acer utils disk I have) shows it as working fine but it has the red corss through it, and wireless connection is not available, also the wireless light on the laptop is out, as if it's been disabled swomewhere other than device mang.

EDIT : the card is inbuilt and is listed as a LAN-Express IEEE 802.11 PCI adaptor

Chris W 09-06-2004 00:48

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hmm... interesting... don't suppose you have a wireless card in the pc that you could try as well do you?

Try uninstalling and reinstalling the driver for the wireless from the acer cd.

imback 09-06-2004 00:50

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I don't have a 2nd wireless card sorry. This is driving me mad :D

I can only think it's something software releated as it seems to be the card that's not going for it.

I have tried looking for an updated driver but with such a vague name I get like a million results relating to anything to do with wireless.

Chris W 09-06-2004 00:53

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what happens if you uninstall the driver and then don't use the acer driver to reinstall... does windows install it automatically?

can you post the exact model of your lappy and i will have a look for a driver

imback 09-06-2004 00:57

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If I remove the driver form the data base and try to reinstall it asks for a disk, nothing in windows data base for it.

It's an Acer Travelmate 250

Thanks for this mate.

Marge 09-06-2004 00:57

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I'm probably more hindrance than help but do you need to reset up the internet connection sharing on the laptop ??? Me ----> :dunce:

Chris W 09-06-2004 01:01

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If it is a wireless a + g card, try the driver from here
It is version 2.3.1.10

If it is a wireless b card, try the driver from here
This one is version 2.1.0

imback 09-06-2004 01:12

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It's wireless b I think and it's the same driver I have on the disk :(

Ok either a) some kind of software is not running on XP that I need (since I installed this one myself) or b) by some massive coincidence at the same time I changed OS the card died.

Mmmmm I hate PC's :D

And I got shot of the acer partition so I wont be able to install their OS.

EDIT : Debs you aren't a hinderance at all, all help is very much accepted.

Chris W 09-06-2004 01:16

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I am not sure exactly how it works with your setup (don't use xp) but in the control panel -> network connections you should have the wireless connection there. On the properties it should be enabled. Is it then showing a network available and just refusing to connect, or showing no network available?

imback 09-06-2004 01:17

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It shows as enabled but unavailable.

Chris W 09-06-2004 01:19

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Is SSID enabled on your router?

(my posts are getting shorter... you can tell i am getting tired and running out of ideas! think the Johnny Walker is kicking in too :p: .)

50420 09-06-2004 01:25

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hey imback.....sounds like your havin the same prob as i was havin a few days back....and as u knows..i have exactly the same setup as yoorself....aprt from havin done the format and reinstall of xp pro..

dont know if its of any help....but when i had this prob...i right click on the wireless lan icon in the taskbar...and select view available wireless networks... on the box that comes up..clicked on advanced...and there should be a refresh button next to the top box..clicked that...after bout 10 or so seconds..the wan is back in there!!!!!.... had the problem for a few days....but after doing this about 8 or 9 times in total....been pretty steady since.
and when can i pick that disk up dude.....dont need the remote one...just the other ;-) :-).... didnt have any blanks t copy em for u....and am gonna be getting rid of this partition on the weekend hopefully......

Marge 09-06-2004 01:26

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If you double click on the wireless connection, then properties, does that then show 3 tabs one of them being wireless networks???

This should show available networks.

For mine I had to run the ICS on both pc's

imback 09-06-2004 01:29

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Thanks guys, I'm going with the fact it's fecked right now.

Rob I'll drop the disk down tomorrow for you dude, and your idea don't work tired at least 6000 times already:D

Yes I do have SSID on the router.

50420 09-06-2004 01:33

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no worries dude.....am back at work tmrow :-( 11.30 start......
if u want...i'll call down after work with the laptop...and can compare the settings if thats of any use t ya......will pick the disk up at same time

Chris W 09-06-2004 01:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imback
Thanks guys, I'm going with the fact it's fecked right now.

Defeatist! :p:

As Debs said, when you check the properties of the wireless connection is it detecting any networks at all?

If broadcast is enabled on the router, it should show your network here even if you are not able to connect to it.

50420 09-06-2004 01:37

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ps....just a thought....but have u tried restoring the router t factory settings.....had t do that myself when was configuring the remotly anywhere software.....and havin toyed around with the routers firewall

Marge 09-06-2004 01:38

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When I changed from stb bb to cable modem all I did to get my lappy working was released and then renewed the dhcp in my router settings and it was straight back online

imback 09-06-2004 01:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeybreath
Defeatist! :p:

As Debs said, when you check the properties of the wireless connection is it detecting any networks at all?

If broadcast is enabled on the router, it should show your network here even if you are not able to connect to it.

No it's not showing any network at all.

Rob I will be in the building for 1 tomorrow so I'll bring it with me mate.

Just tried resetting the router to factory settings now.

50420 09-06-2004 01:44

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ok cheers bud......doubt will be uptoo much after 4mths off....prob gonna be buddying up with the long coated one.... :-)
will take the laptop t work if u wanna borrow it...t compare settings

imback 09-06-2004 02:46

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Ok sorted it, and i am so angry as to the solution. While installing the various things needed from the acer disk, i decided to skip the things I'd never need, one of these was a small program that allowed you to configure short cut keys, well as the wireless lan has a short cut key to turn it off and on this is why it wouldn't work, so installed it and job done.

It's been a long night but it's sorted now.


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