MCSE 2000 Certification?
 

Does anyone know how much this costs and where's best to do it?

Preferably online?

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Have a look at the Open University, they've moved on from using BBC2 at 4am! :D

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Here's an update so far... :)

Spoke to the OU and they don't do Microsoft certs only their own computing courses.

They did however transfer me to Learndirect (not just the number but an actual call transfer). The lady at Learndirect was helpful, I basically told her the course and she pointed me int he direction of a few companies that offer the course:

• Training link (Birmingham) - 0800 794 2822
• Education Bureau (Lincolnshire) - 01469 519 319
  
  They also gave the the number to Microsoft's Education Helpline:
• 0800 917 0758

Learndirect are on 0800 100 900 ;)

I'm off for some din dins then I'm going to make some calls ;)

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The last time I had a look at the MCSE is was about £600 for the years study and examinations. But That was about 6 or 7 months ago.

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Is that online delivery?

Which company/s is that with?

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http://www.microsoft.com/uk/skills/ctec/

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/default.asp

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/bo...on/default.asp

http://go.microsoft.com/?LinkID=397633

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/community/

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

It's a while since I did mine, but that will defo get you started. :)

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Without being funny - why do you want to do this ?

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Improving my skills, CV and personal ambition :)

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it takes ages hehe.. I really need to upgrade my nt4 MCSE to windows 2003 stage... I shall do it one day.

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Cheers for the advice guys!

I've decided to go for it! :Yikes:

SmartCertify.co.uk

MCSE for £1,299 :erm:

This includes the full 7 MCPs for the MCSE, plus the CompTIA A+ course (which is carries an elective credit apprantly, says one of Neil's links!)

The nice guys over at SmartCerify.co.uk (the IT division of Skillsoft) are letting me pay for it over a 12month interest free payment plan :)


...this'll keep me out of trouble over the summer months! :pp :pp ;)

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Crikey thats expensive. I fancied the networkey one, but might need to save first (or talk nicely to mu boss) !

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MCSE ... The real meaning :D

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my cranium softened easily

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PMSL. :rofl:

But I still believe to many people have too much time on their hands. ;)

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Hmm.... MCSE....

I'd be vary carefull on this mate.. I used to teach ICT at my local College, some of our staff had teh chance to do the MCSE for networking, I opted notto bother ;)
The ones that did the course were DISGUSTED!
A guy came in to the college (asking for £750 per day) for 3 hours and read to them from a book!
At the end of the course, he GAVE them the bloody book!!!

They wern't actully tought anything they couldn't have read for themselves.


Now, I'm not saying all MCSE courses are this bad, but do a bit of research before you start and make sure that whoever you go with has been doing MCSE fro some time and have resident staff to teach teh program.

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I've no idea which qualifications you've got but you might be better off doing a BTEC type of course, or maybe specialising in database stuff or Linux.
I'm going for the BTEC route myself, one in Computing Studies and one in programming:
http://www.richardm.co.uk/blog/archives/000029.html

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The company I've bought it from deliver the course via CDROM and online. They claim to have tutors to help me and answer questions, not to teach me content I do that form their text and visual materials. I already work in the eLearning field (online learning) and am confortable with the medium :)

Thanks for the warning tho :tu:, and it reminded me of a guy I met in in Waterstones book store. He basically saw I was looking as MS cert books and started prodding me for information, he then told me was a classroom tutor teaching MCSEs, he gave me his number and offered me a place.... didn't get the costs tho..he said that wasn't his dept, he simply teaches his company does the finance (seems dead dodgy writing this now! :LOL:).

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I've already got a HND and a Degree in Computer Science so I think doing the MCSE is a good level :)



One question I've not asked is which O/s I should do!!! MCSE for 2000 or 2003?

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More Cash Swift Exit (at least that's what I did when I got mine)
Word of warning many employers ignore them now to easy to just "pass" the exam by cramming past test questions
Go for the 2003 route as the 2000 route will expire shortly after mainstream support for the OS (mid 2005)
2003 Server exams will be more focused on security which will also stand up well for any prospective employer

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I don't like the idea of sitting an exam that will expire only next year :( I'll go for the 2003 route, thanks :)

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Improving your skills & personal ambition are good reasons :) :cool:

TBH it won't make much difference on a CV these days.

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Caspar,

good luck with your studies. It's true that an MCSE is not the passport to a job like it used to be but you will come out of it with a good grounding in MS tech and a greatly enhanced feeling of confidence.

Personally I gave up the MCP route after my NT4 cert. These days you seem to be always playing catchup, or should that be payup?

I work for an IT security company and have to recruit systems engineers. We always used to insist on an MCSE but have recently found that it doesnt guarantee the best candidates. We now use our own short test which without being rocket science does weed out the weaker candidates. What really hits home is when the guys/gals turn upfor interview with their shiny 2000 MCSE and then display absolutely no idea about either NT or 2003. We develop software for a market where a huge percentage of people still use NT, so we need that knowledge in our people.

If you can, get as much practical experience under your belt as poss while doing the exams. That combination definately will open doors.

Again, good luck and above all, enjoy it while you are learning.

Terry

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Hi all

I am going to enrol in september in my A+ course, my local college do it for £179

they also offer MCSE course for £400 which I am going to do after my A+.

The interesting thing is I have been working in the IT industry for almost 10 years now, and have never really done any courses but never found it a stop to getting a job, I always find that companies prefer to test you during interview.

Im doing the courses now for my own progression and so that I can put my self taugh nowledge into some kind of order!

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Hi guys, after seeing this thread today, it re sparked my thoughts on learnign something new, but not for any other reaosn than to earn more money.

So having very little experience in terms of qualifications, I am looking for advice on what kind of course and what kind of areas within IT are worth considering.

Like a lot of people I know a bit about PC's but it's all self taught and so no employer will look at me.

Have been looking at this site http://www.nitlc.com/CourseMCSE.aspx

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Same course i have just enroled on.. Seems to be quite a comprehensive one as it includes you MOUS, A+, MCSA, CCNA & MCSE.

However it is not cheap, i convinced my work to put me on it as i could not afford the £3900 course fee

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Blimey nighthawk! that'll keep you busy for a few years!!!

I've been told that my online delivery of MCSE 2000 (I've since updated it to MCSE 2003) has between 250 and 280 hours of learning.

They've also bundled for free the A+ and some additional course material, not too sure what as I got as I became a tad overloaded! :( Includes something called 'eRouters', anyone heard of it?

I've spoken to my brother who knows a few people who've gone thru the MCSE route, one guy did it in 18 months, which is a shocker to me! I fancy doing it at max 1 year!!! :erm:! :)

Good luck with your studies nighthawk :)

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Thansk Casper... i think ill need it :) The company has put me on a Max 2 year time linit. At the same time i am also about to start learning SQL... so the next 2 years should be fun

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SQL Server 2000 is good fun ;)

..since we're both doing an MCSE now, maybe we shd swat together! ;)

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Is that what they call it these days............ :D ;)

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:LOL: you're just jealous!!! ;)

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Yeah it's expenisve for sure but as it's a govermant recognised qualification you can can an interest free loan to pay for it, can't see NTL paying me though is some how :pp

So it's worth doing? Would I be taking on too much?

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It is a lot of work... but should be worth it in the end. teh first part of my course material should be in a the start of next week. i will let you know how scary it is when it arrives

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Which course you do and how much load you take on really depends on a few different factors/ motivations to do it.... things include increase skills, financial rewards, new job, peer respect, personal ambition, etc...

If you're not sure you want to commit yourself to a full MCSE or MCSA, for example, then just register on one of the modules. On competion of that you will become a MCP, which means a Microsoft Certified Professional...even that looks good! ;)

..taking on too much is such an ambigious question since everyone is different with different time contraints and motivations..you'll only know once you've started! ...but doing something small first may give you an insight in the long run :)

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My MCSE 2003 is completly online, through a learning management system...tho they are sending post materials, but I think those are add-ons.

My access details, I'm told, should be emailed to me within a few days :)

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Thanks for the advice guys, I'm not going to lie my motives are purely money driven, and maybe so I can get myself a career instead of a job.

Basically I'm looking for something that means I can get a job and not start at the bottom, and some kind of grounding in the field that means I can work up employment ladder easier.

Nighthawk I will be very insterested to hear what you think of the material once you have viewed it.

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How you going with it mate?

I got my first lot about 10 days ago, about half way through the A+ book now. Hope it's going well:)

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Psssst don't forget there's plenty of briandumps available for the MCSEs *nudge nudge wink wink*

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:confused: I have no idea what that means.

:p:

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Just in case you really don't know what it means ??? :confused:
It's a dump of the questions that someone has had during an exam (very dodgy if you get caught as they'll take your certification away!) and they post them on a website along with the answer...

When I did my NT 3.1 (yes 3.1) I did the exams with a colleague and we staggered them so that we could aid each other with the questions (and answers!) did 3.5/4.0 and 2000 the real way though (experience not books!)

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You won't get into trouble for using them, but you would get your cetification removed if you were to create your own for other people after sitting the exam.
Very handy as study guides too.
Of course as Tricky rightly says, when it comes to actually doing the job, nothing beats experience.
Taking myself for example, I'm only qualified as a MCP (although I'm working on getting my 2003 MCSE) and got where I am by experience and ability.
It's like these graduates with computer degrees but no experience, sure on paper it looks impressive to pointy haired bosses, but when it comes down to doing the job, a bit of paper saying "degree" or "mcse" won't help you when the brown stuff hits the rotary cooling device.

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The CCNA certification course is not the easiest I've ever sat down to. I was puttin in 5 or 6 hours a day, 5 or 6 days a week. This enabled me to cover 2 and sometimes 3 modules a week, and sit the end of module assessments (averaging 81.7% per module). If I had been working I dont think I would have been able to keep up the pase set by the tutor. Last time I was at my class, the tutor was talking about next year having classes during the summer as a means to take the pressure off. There a almost 4,500 pages of book learning, in 2 massive text-books, plus 2 Lab books, plus the online course content.

Personally I had to give the course up, not because I wasnt up for it. But because of my personal circumstances since the rta in Feb. But one day I'll go back and re-do it.

So good-luck with the studies, and I look forward to see how thing go for you's.

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[QUOTE=Xaccers]
Of course as Tricky rightly says, when it comes to actually doing the job, nothing beats experience.
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I agree but how many employers would give you a shot without a bit of paper? Especially these days.

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Yup, too many PHBs in the mix

One way is to get a first line job in a support centre, they normally don't ask for certifications.
Do that for a bit, then blag your way into a second line job at another company.

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Braindumps are one of the main reasons that MCSE and other certifications are becoming less and less valued in industry.

Braindumps can allow people who would otherwise fail a certification to effectively pass the exam. The inexperience and lack of knowledge that these certified professionals truly possess becomes apparent once they are employed in industry, which causes the Pointy Haired Bosses to frown upon those who do posess certification, including those who can back-up their pieces-of-paper with the relevant skills and experience.

Braindumps sux0r!