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I see it's been renewed for season 4....

I hope it gets better or I suspect this really WILL be the last one.

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That show has had more stays of execution than a ... umm [insert witticism here, I'm too sleepy :zzz: ]. I'm glad it's getting a season four tho', it has improved markedly.

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The other Trek series from TNG onwards seemed to take a few seasons to actually get any good...so hopefully ST:E will improve...

LOL, although, to be honest, I've not bothered with it since season 1.

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It certainly has got better...

I did hear that season 4 would cover the birth of the federation.

Mind you I also heard that both 'q' and william shater (as kirks great grand father) would also be putting in an appearance.

It's going to be moved (in america) to 9pm on a friday night..... HHHmmm didn't they do that to kill the original series ;)

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Noooooooooo! :Yikes:

It is also a prerequisite if Ms Blalok is to get her kit off. Judging by the way things developed in the last series, I wouldn't be surprised if that's an 'angle' they want to explore in a little more depth ... /cynic

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but still no Borg :Yikes:

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?????????????

The borg have already been in Enterprise

http://www.trek5.com/enterprise/episodes/2/049.html

Although they were never called 'borg' in the episode - just cybernetic beings/organisms....

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I just WISH they would change the crappy music !!!

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I wish if they HAVE to have a sung theme tune that they would go back to the original version - I don't like the jazzed up one.

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It has... UPN announced it a few days ago.

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Oh gods! That *definitely* shows signs of utter desperation on the part of the writers! What's next? The Borg somehow manage to put in an appearance...?

:rolleyes:

Edit:

Good grief, it was so bad I managed to repress that memory... :Yikes:

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Be that as it may, Its actually a very good episode.... one of the last ones I enjoyed anyway.

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I still prefer Bill Shatners idea for episode 8 (Star Trek Ressurection)
Turned out Kirk made the borg in star trek the motionless picture :)
Sweet irony there.
He also does die alone, as he predicted.

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Although I'm a Trekkie, I was never able to get "into" Enterprise :shrug:

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Trouble with that idea is that we never heard "We are V'Ger of Borg" etc and, had the Borg had the technology that V'Ger had in the film we would never have heard (and gods, do I wish we had never heard!) "Sleep, Data..." :rolleyes:

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But V'ger wasn't borg when they found it, it was just a machine, from a machine world where the organics had long since died off.
Then V'ger assimilated the bald bint (or was it Russ in drag?) and the young guy, went back through the wormhole to the machine planet, where the machines went "ooo this organic stuff is cool, lets go get some" and the borg were born.

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Its an interesting idea, and to my knowledge the origins of the borg have never been explained fully, though wherent the borg allready thousands of years old when all this happened with v'ger?? unless he is supposed to have traveled back in time aswel.

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Wormholes can traverse time and space, as shown in Voyager when they find a WH into Romulan history :)

Ressurection is a great read, well worth tracking down.
In my opinion it's better than First Contact, but then, without First Contact being told, would we have Enterprise?

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From one of my fave sites:

Borg
Who?

Origin: Delta Quadrant. A cybernetic life-form thousands of years old which is part organic, part artificial life. They have advanced well beyond Federation science, unknown prior to a confrontation with the U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-D arranged by the entity known as "Q" circa stardate 42761 ( 2365) some 7,000 light-years past explored Federation space in the Delta Quadrant.

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good news season 4 is to happen, the bad news is UPN is signalling that it will be the 'final ride' for the enterprise.

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,14150,00.html

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Oh joy, so they don't think trekkies can cope with things like storyline and plot development?

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For more on Shatners ideas on a new star trek series please refer to the follwing site...

www.bringbackkirk.com

Download the trailer if you like, and be VERY thankful it's never going to happen.

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I've given up watching it.Boring!!

And no I don't suffer from low or poor concentration.I just can't stand the way they mess with the continuity.I was hoping that it would avoid all of the McGuffinisms of recent ST series.But NO! we have time travel.We have some mysterious species THAT MERITS NO MENTION IN THE ORIGINAL ST STORIES and yet have SUCH a devastating effect on the earth ALSO NOT MENTIONED IN ANY OF THE OTHER ST SERIES.If they had to do a prequel series why couldn't they stay within the limits of the known history of the ST universe?It's bad,sloppy scriptwriting and a very patent attempt to carry on a cash cow.However THIS ST fan of over 30 years is NOT fooled. :mad:

Incog.

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Rumour has it that they have only santioned 10 episodes of Season 4 - the rest will only get the go ahead if the ratings improve .....

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Not much chance of that happening - I think the new time slot will also help to kill it.

Anwyay, there are only so many ways that you can tell the same story.

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I am getting more and more convinced that with all this time travel (especially the last episode where Enterprise's offspring tried to stop the original Xindi probe) that Enterprise will end up with something happening (maybe the outcome of the temporal cold war) that will correct all the timelines to clean up the continuity issues.

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Yeah - like find the self-destruct button so the whole thing never happened :D

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so while we are on the subject of sci-fi baddies & goodies and stupid plots, lets hear your favourite....
Baddie
Plot line
Goodie

and your least favourite....
baddie
plot line
goodie

Mine would have to be....
favourite....
Baddie - Shadows from Babylon 5, not only did they look cool but they looked scary and seemed rather evil (im talking the aliens themselves, not just the ships) see attatched pic to see what I mean :)

Plot line - Another B5 one, the Earth Civil War, main plot line for beggining of series 3 & the second half of series 4 of babylon 5

Goodie - Kosh from B5.


least favourite.....
baddie - That thing that thinks its God in ST:5 , and Sybok from the same film (allthough hes not actually a baddie, hes just misguided)

plot line - The original borg storyline, the one in TNG when Q moves them to the delta quadrant for a laugh (the borg are one fo my favorite bad guys though, I just really didnt like that episode)

goodie - Tough call between Sisko & Janeway


funny how all my fav SciFi moments are from B5 and all my least favourite are from Startrek, yet when they where both still airing I would have considdered myself more of a trekie then a B5'er (though I have always said that B5 had a more realistic outlook of the future, even if it is a more depressing outlook)

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hmmm:

then they woke up and it was all a dream... isn't that how an average piece of creative writing produced by classes of seven-year-olds usually finish up? :D

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Sunset Beach and Crossroads ended that way :D

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And an entire series of Dynasty ... or was it Dallas? or Dallastey? one of those, anyway... :D

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A whole Enterprise episode story was almost like that - the one where Hoshi got caught in transporter limbo.

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You can almost see the writers of Year Of Hell (from Voyager) rubbing their hands in glee.....

'Muwa ha ha ha ha - lets turn enterpruse into a 4yr 'year of hell'' series :)

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Conversely, I have never thought of myself as a Trekie but was definitely a B5'er (even getting the DVD box-sets now)! I used to watch Star Trek "Whatever" if it happened to be on but never watched the whole of a series like I did with B5.
However, Enterprise is that little bit different from the rest of ST and I have not yet missed an episode! I think it might be that it seems much more realistic (less utopian) and you get fight scenes down dark corridors!

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When you think about Enterprise it is very B5'esq.
I enjoyed the first season and the beggining of season 2, I just got bored part way into season 2, the story seemed to drift off with too many pointless episodes wich contributed nothing to the main story.

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I liked B5's main arc running through the whole story. Even when episodes appeared to be standalone stories they contributed something to the main arc. One thing that struck me when rewatching the first series of B5, recently, was how many little things point towards the end of the fifth season even though, on their own, they appear to have no relevance at all, almost background noise.
Enterprise does seem to be similar to this, especially this season with the season long Xindi arc.

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I'm sitting here looking at my (so far 3) box sets of B5 - and am about half way through season 2.....

It makes a lot more sense finally watching them in order.

And they were only 25.99 per set - compare that to the Star Trek sets :)

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Can't they just start a new series that plays off in the future, say, 300 years from Voyager?

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Well, if the utopian underlying factor continued, the whole galaxy would be within the federation by then, and even the borg would be open to group hugs.
Not very interesting, it would end up just being a futuristic version of TNG (and unless they can get actors as good as TNG or writers/directors it will flop)
Or they have something serious happen which wipes out the federation and then the only purpose of the show would be to rebuild the federation, oh wait, that's andromeda.
I think they've bled the Star Trek genre dry of ideas for a long time.

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perhaps they should dump the federation and do it from the klingons or romulans viewpoint next.

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Where did you manage to track them down at that price?

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Could be interesting, but in the Star Trek universe, they are portrayed as conquerers rather than explorers.
10 "Captain there's an unknown ship off to port"
20 "Lock on disruptors and blast it"
30 GOTO 10

Ditch Star Trek, bring back Firefly and make a go of the legend of the rangers too for us B5 people

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I'd personally find a series based on the Romulans more interesting. While there has been some political chicanery within the Klingon Empire, I think the backstabbing nature of the Romulans would make for a more interesting theme.

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Thanks for that, looks like it's time to get seasons 2 to 4.

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JMS should get Crusade back on the air before he gets going with LotR. From having seen the pilot of LotR I think that Crusade has a lot more potential, although it was good to see G'Kar back on the screen.

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Yeah, I think you are right there - I think maybe it's time to realise that the star trek francise has run it's race...

Personally I think a good end for Enterprise would be for Sam to 'leap' out of Archer after having completed some monumental task :) - like finally getting T'Pol to get naked....

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2 & 3 are 25.99 - 4 is 37.99 as it's new

Not sure when 5 comes out :confused:

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Wow! Definitely going to get 1-3 on DVD, will wait for 4 to drop in price.
Amazon are cheaper for the TV-movies tho.

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"must dash, things to do, kiss, kiss" classic :)

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There is a set coming out with all the tv movies in it.

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You star! Will hold fire and wait for that :)

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Sorry to go back to an earlier part of this topic, but I have to just go back to being the uber-nerd that I am :


Unless i am mistaken, the first hint of the whole V'Ger / Borg connection was in Shatner's book, 'The Ashes of Eden' or the follow-up to it.... is this right? Am I making this up?

Sorry but I'd like to sort out my memories, lol, I was fourteen when I read my last star trek book...

P

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Why don't they just drop it altogether and find a new universe.I'd love to see come of C.J Cherryh's universe brought to life on the screen.When I read her stories one actually can feel how dangerous space is.In the ST universe there just isn't the feeling that there is a vaccuum the other side of the spaceship wall.In Cherryh's books you get that claustrophobic,panicked feeling all through her books.

However just thinking how many good SF stories have been ruined by Hollywood scriptwriters perhaps it's just as well that they haven't. ;)

Incog. :)

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Feck they have messed up the timeline. Dont get me wrong but they messed it up. In Enterprise they made it out thay the borg from Nemesis were frozen and came back alive to send info to the part of the galaxy were the borg live. However we know from TNG that it was Q who sent the Enterprise D to meet the Borg who then knew of the humans. They messed up big time and not the first :(

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Maybe its an american thing, screwing up continuity etc, just look what Lucas has done with Star Wars, makes me wonder if he actually wrote episodes 4,5&6

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I hate continuity errors like that :(

Star Trek, Star Wars, & others.

I finally gave up on the X-Men comics 'cos of all the ret-cons & time travel crap.

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I gave up after the fantastic age of apocalypse. Never managed to get back into it.

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Ah, AoA. Excellent story. I lasted a bit longer. Gave up in disgust & frustration during the "No Exit / Zero Tolerance" storyline, which came after the awful "Onslaught" cross-over.

I just stick to the Bat books now. No messy continuity. Ret-cons are v rare, & when they happen they're usually actually good. No time travel. No constant crossovers.


Trek:


Is it worth giving ST:E a go? I've not bothered with it since season 1. Then again, if s4 is going to be the last, there's probably not much point now.

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Hmm good point but then again the fact that its sold to around 120 different countries helped in there decision for another series ;)

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Well the series writers certainly can't...! :D

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Oh yes! I remember when B5 was first being shown and the discussions that were going on in the Fidonet B5 chat echoes! When we caught our first glimpses of the Shadow Ships the reaction was one of amazement and shock. As Keffer described them "They look like a cross between a spider and your worst nightmare"!

Alternatively, Servalan from Blake's 7, totally evil bitch in such a pretty package!

Again, agreed. "Messages from Earth", "Severed Dreams" and "Point of No Return" are three of the most powerful episodes with their own mini-arc that *really* drive home the point that there is just *no way back* for the B5 crew. I also loved the Series 3 intro monologue:

"Babylon 5 was our last, best hope for peace.

"It failed".

Or the episode "Pressure Point" in Blake's 7 where Blake thinks they're about to destroy the Federation's Control Centre only to find that it's a trap and Gan dies as they try to escape.

Hmm, not so sure here, after all, the Vorlons weren't so good after all, even though Kosh ended up more helping the good guys.

For me in B5 it's Marcus Cole, he was just *sooo* cool!

Disappearing on B4 and then popping up saying "well, that would be the most inconvenient time for us to be captured, so it was most likely to happen" :D

And I loved the Minbari fighting pike!

In Blake's 7 it's got to be Avon, although again, he's hardly a good guy!

1) The Xindi from ST:Enterprise, talk about a bunch of hams!

2) The Borg. By the time we got to Voyager, despite all their powers and the races they've assimilated somehow Janeway and crew managed to run rings around them which was ludicrous.

The entire ST:Enterprise storyline. Too many to mention, but them finding excuses to get T'Pol to take her top off has to rank highly (or is that lowly?!)

goodie - Tough call between Sisko & Janeway

Odd that, innit!

The reason being, in part, that JMS loved Blake's Seven, it was so totally downbeat. Star Trek is stuck with Roddenberry's "Wouldn't it be nice if everyone was nice" idea of a universe, so the good guys always save the day and (eventually) convince the baddies that they should change their ways. JMS is more grown up than that!

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I don`t know why we are even bothering to discuss who was the best Star Trek villain.

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

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"For hate's sake I spit my last breath at you...!"

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When I first started watching B5 it was "so obvious" to me that the Centauri were going to be the bumbling comic relief and the Narn the bad guys in "evil" looking makeup. The gradual revelation of who these two races really were threw every Star Trek cliche out of the window. Sad to say *I* was one of those Trekkies. I soon learned not to take anything in the show at face value.

B5 has since become by far my favourite TV show of all time. Sorry Defiant, I`m as big a Trek nerd as they come, but it can`t hold a candle to B5.

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It is a shame that enterprise has been given the death slot for season 4, although upn is kind on programes its still fairly terminal. The latter half of season 3 is getting rather quite good the continued storyline does make you want to watch next weeks to find out what is gonna happen even though for the most part you can work out the outcome. They need more alliances in it though I was glad to see the andorians come into it as it made it more than just a earth ship sadly they were only around for an episode then went.
I think this whole xindi business was scripted because people were complaing about them medeling with the timeline in season 2.
First contact did leave a good plot line open for this prequal to be done they just havent quite got it working.
The similarities between the NX-01 and the akira class are distintcly there.
apparently a pad was found from first contact thingy with akira specs on it but it does seem abit strange they got the shape but none of the internal gubbins.
Looks like they'll be heading back to earth for the end of season 3 / start of 4 so hopefully we shall see more friendly ships and nx-02 etc working. Actually the ship itself isnt on its way back its only archer in the xindi ship.

I do like enterprise and it has got better and is really starting to find its form of late, although I do have a problem with it, it shouldnt be called enterprise ! They have loads of names to choose from why that one. Theyre are only 6 enterprises in the previous timeline but now there is 7 and all refferences in the other series conflicts with this.
Excelsior would of been a fine name.

As for the borg stuff mentioned, they were killed off but did get out a message to the delta quad. but nothing will happen on that till tng era.

There should really be more stuff on the alpha and beta quadrents. I sure do hope the delphic expanse goes away when they've finished with all this as its not on the normal galactic maps.

K

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I have to admit, while I am a lifelong trekkie (I actually do like all the series and most of the movies up till now), I gave up watching Enterprise. Even ignoring the crap theme, I haven't seen one good actor on it, and thought most of the storylines in series one where distinctly lacking in imagination. The Special FX are good (which means visually it doesn't match with either the original series or TNG) but most SciFi shows have good SFX now.

As for Babylon 5, I also love that, but for different reasons to Star Trek. One thing I did like is the extended story arcs (an idea which the DS9 writers copied with their Dominion Wars arc, which I think made ST:DS9 better). Star Trek seemed to have more fun elements, and in some cases, better acting. B5 was a better drama which took it's time to develop stories.

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Oh Boy!

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It is alleged that all script writers for Enterprise are issued with strict guidelines that, under no circumstances, no matter *what* the excuse or provocation, will Captain Archer *EVER* utter the words "Oh' and "Boy" in close proximity to each other!!

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Re-opened - spoilers and some off topic stuff removed.

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Now let me see.Didn't that happen in the ORIGINAL ST series?And in the Next Generation?

Like I said it's sloppy script writing with no thought to originality.Just go back to older series and nick ideas and get paid for it. :rolleyes:

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The trouble is - with ALL the star trek series - Enterprise included. As I've said on lots of occasions.

There are only so many ways you can tell the same story. I think Star Trek used up most of these during TNG.

Sure there are a few new ideas - but not that many.

The trouble with Enterprise is that they SHOULD ( not that they do all/most the time) be considering the existing story and canon.

So - while I'm looking forward to season 4 - I'm not sure any more if it will be better than the first three. Although I guess season 3 was better than the first 2.

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I'm sorry but I preferred the first two series.This Xindi rubbish has annoyed me no end.The technology has taken a whole new leap because the writers just couldn't stick within the original limits.IF they had been anything like good writers they could have come up with something original without stepping out of the continuity of the ST universe.

Ah I hate prequels anyway.I really can't see the point of going backwards in a story.It's why I hate the latest set of Star Wars films and can't be a*sed to go and see them.Same with the new prequel books set in the Dune universe.Bah!

Incog turning into Victor Meldew. :(

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Off topic stuff & arguments removed again.

Defiant - you will stop your arguments and childish behaviour now. :grind:

Dilligaf - There is no reason to close this, people want to talk about Enterprise and there is no point in another thread being created when this exists.

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I must admit I hate prequels a lot too :(

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I'll be waiting for the apology. You should really check things out before mouthing of Pem :upyours:

If you think your still right then I can prove my point very easily

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So what do you think they COULD have come up with if they had continued from Voyager onwards.

I rather liked the idea of going through with another of the ST races like the Klingons or the Romulans.

OR IF they must keep on with the time travel stories and follow the organisation that tries to prevent timeslips in the ST future. :)

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I think they could have done something along the lines of the Voyager Elite force games maybe....

I like the Idea of the time travel organisation (I know there is one in the federation - but for the life of me I can't remember what it is).

Maybe it should just stop and they could do a tv movie each year (like alien nation did for a while)

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There was the Department of Temporal Investigations in DS9, but if you are thinking of the Federation timeships those aren`t going to be around until the 29th century.

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Would that not be dangerously close to Quantum Leap?

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Or you could explore the bad side of the federation - what was that lot that tried to get Dr Bashir in DS9?

Section13?

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Well leaping forward to the 29th century would be ok.It's not as if they could spoil any continuity anyway.They are in charge of correcting time slips after all. ;)

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Well they did that already by taking Archer back and forwards through time. ;)

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Close, it was Section 31, you're probably thinking of Bureau 13 in Babylon 5.

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Have you seen this?

http://www.bringbackkirk.com/

There is a trailer for download. It has to be one of the funniest things i've seen in quite a while.

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But a whole series of that would be pushing it a little bit too far.

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That's the one - and that's why also :) - I just finished watching my 3 box sets of b5 (get paid next week so I can get season 4 then :))

A section 31 show, they could have their own ship with the cloak from the pegasus - now that would be nice.

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Well can you think of anything else? :D

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I find I enjoy it a lot more if I watch it on its merits & don't compare it too much with previous incarnations.

I agree series 3 has been the best so far. My main criticism is that as, someone has already said, they have messed around too much with the time travel element of the story. Some of the plot twists due to this have complicated the story, rather than moved it forward, in my opinion.

As a prequel series, the concept that it has to 'fit' with it's successors, is assumed, so I suppose, in a way, time travel is an understandable tool for the writers to use, to 'play' with the constraint. I just find the 'alternate reality' treatment of altered timelines a bit facile, sometimes. :shrug:

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Long before it had been suggested on this board I'd been advocating a Klingon or Romulan series. Another (albeit not original) option would be to go for a series set on the Excelsior with Sulu.

I have other ideas, but I won`t share them here in case I ever get organised enough to finally commit them to paper. :)

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well i watched the last one of seaosn 3 this week - hmmm i say u know sci fi writters just love a cliff hanger dont they.

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Hmmm...what can I say about the last episode?

The Nazis were aliens? Interesting choice of storyline.

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You know - just watched the finale - and i dont honestly know what to think.

In some respects the episode was quite good, really enjoyed it - then we have the last few minutes and fear strikes me. Given that the next season could be the very last Star Trek for a Loooong time, i have to think that that ending could finally be the nail in the coffin.

I hope im wrong, but....

Incidentally, that was the only episode written by Rick Berman & Brannon Braga in about the last 10. They are the people that a lot of trekkies blame for the downfall of Star Trek.

Maybe they have a point....

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the end of one series is only the beginning for another - that end had been 'spoiled', already - I'm looking forward to see how they cope with the potential storylines in the next series :)

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What do you mean by the ending being 'spoiled' already homealone?

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I'm working from memory - not always a good thing ;)

- but iirc someone once posted a glimpse of the episode we just watched. :erm:

Like I said, the next series, is what's important, now :)

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IIRC there was another similar program where they had alien types working with the Nazis or am I thinking of the BNP?

A bit of a twister there, how would they quantify that? going back in time, perhaps when in the bigger ship that carried them? but then what about cappy archer, how did he get there?

oooh, I hate cliffhangers... bring back Stargate..

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Well I finally watched this today. Quite good I thought - S4 E1 should be interesting.

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The thing that gets me about this is HOW?

The only things i can come up with is that

A) Either the weapon blowing up caused "local" time to become all screwed up (weak).

B) It happened BEFORE the events of the last episode, possible as none of the Xindi actally had ANY contact with earth and the Blue alien who helped them would have had any contact with them either and they werent able to get through to that orbital platform (but why would a WWII tech civ have an orbital platform?)

C) The guy helping them from the future has been tampering in things he shouldnt - rememeber him saying that his superiours would be really angry if they found out he told Archer what he would be doing 7 years from then.

D) The reptillians(hmmm)/guardians(more likely) went back in time in a last ditch effort to screw the timeline so that a key advance was never made and enterprise was protected by the spheres reconstructing space. (right out on a limb here :D )

BUT THEN WHO THE HECK IS THE BLUE NAZI.... Argggg!!!!!

Your thoughts?

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I thought that most of the episode was ok - then the last couple of mins were tacked on the end when they found out they had another season.

I don't know - I just got the impression it was a quick 'conversion' into a cliff hanger episode.