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paul_hadley 11-05-2004 15:00

MR2 Being Rolled Out At The Moment
 
I have been reading at Digital Spy that MR2 is being rolled out at the moment.

Quote:

For those of you awaiting news of the MR2 rollout.
NTL confirmed for me today that the MR2 downloads are taking place at the moment.
This is happening in my own North West region and also in other regions.
The rollout is expected to be completed by the end of May.
I haven't received the download myself as yet, but NTL kindly sent a technician out to check that my STB reception is in top-notch condition ready for MR2!
http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/....php?p=1947257

Can anyone confirm this, and can anyone confirm the dates for the MR2 rollout?

If Sam B is reading this thread, then can she confirm that MR2 is being rolled out, and when certain areas will be recieving the download of MR2. Will all of the ex-cwc areas have the MR2 software by the end of May, or will it only be northern areas of the UK that recieve the MR2 download by the end of May, and other areas will be recieving the MR2 software via STB download later in June, or later?

bigitup_j 11-05-2004 15:08

Re: MR2 Being Rolled Out At The Moment
 
i certainly hope MR2 is rolling out now.
cr3 needs the update, it's been particularly bad today! :(

Salu 11-05-2004 15:10

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MR2 ????

I presume you dont mean the Toyota?

What is it?

paul_hadley 11-05-2004 15:11

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MR2 stands for Maintenance Release 2, which is a new update for CR3 (the current purple software), and it gets rid of the bugs and changes the colour scheme to blue, instead of purple.

bigitup_j 11-05-2004 15:12

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Maintainance Release 2.
For the bromley / ex-cwc digital network, to "fix" bugs (and ther's plently of them :() on the CR3 that we have and make it look like the new Langley CR3.

:)

EDIT: Beaten to it :cry: :D

paul_hadley 11-05-2004 15:14

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LOL at bigitup_j. You explained it better than I did anyway. :)

TheBlueRaja 11-05-2004 15:15

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Anyone know whats in the Brighton Area? I know its Ex Cable and Wireless, but i have no idea what Langley and, until now, CR2 is.

Its the purple one, and its ****, can i assume its CR1???? IF thats the right term to use?

paul_hadley 11-05-2004 15:20

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If you live in a Bromley area, your BBC ONE is on channel number 1, and if you live in a Langley area, your BBC ONE is on channel number 101. The EPG software is is not called CR2 - it is called MR2 (Maintenance Release 2), which fixes bugs in CR3 (purple software). CR2 is the blue software, which was released before MR2 (the purrple software).

bigitup_j 11-05-2004 15:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theblueraja
Anyone know whats in the Brighton Area? I know its Ex Cable and Wireless, but i have no idea what Langley and, until now, CR2 is.

Its the purple one, and its ****, can i assume its CR1???? IF thats the right term to use?

You have CR3...most Bromley customers do. it has a lot of problems, and MR2 will turn it blue and make it better.
CR1 is what Londoners have, basically just the EPG and Tv On Demand, no interactive at all.
CR2 was the software you had before CR3 (before it went all pink!) - when it was blue/greeny. it's true it did work much better, but it did not allow ETV features, such as Multi-screen and "pressing the red button" stuff.

so CR3 is the latest software.

hope that helps :)

EDIT: aaaarrrrggggghhh! beaten again :D

paul_hadley 11-05-2004 15:22

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Lol. ;)

bigitup_j 11-05-2004 15:22

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so does any one here have MR2 yet then?
i presume, it was rolled out over night. :confused:

paul_hadley 11-05-2004 15:24

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That's what I made this thread for - to find out. :)

Alanmelon 11-05-2004 15:25

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Its getting a bit confusing, here's my take on it;

Bromley=Ex-CWC (with the exception of some London areas)=Purple EPG=BBC ONE on '1'=CR3 software with MR1, as applied over a year ago

Langley=Original ntl=Old blue or new blue EPG=BBC ONE on '101'=CR3 (new blue) in increasing numbers of areas, or old (5.02?) software revision in those areas not yet updated.

bigitup_j 11-05-2004 15:29

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that is correct

paul_hadley 11-05-2004 15:31

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Isn't that what bigitup_j and myself were saying? ;)

bigitup_j 11-05-2004 15:32

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Lol :D

Alanmelon 11-05-2004 15:42

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Just trying to make it succinct. I'll leave you two alone then.

paul_hadley 11-05-2004 15:47

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Sorry. We're only joking.

TheBlueRaja 11-05-2004 16:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paul_hadley
The EPG software is is not called CR2 - it is called MR2 (Maintenance Release 2), which fixes bugs in CR3 (purple software). CR2 is the blue software, which was released before MR2 (the purrple software).

:confused: :dunce:

EPG? WTF?

So I have BBC on Channel 1 = Bromley, i have a purple screen = CR3 software with MR1 (ARGGGG!!!!).

So this means that very soon i will be getting MR2 on CR3 (Bromley)? Which turns my purple screen blue (but not langley) and makes it better?

Correct?

Oh yeah, that makes sense... And i need to lie down now.....

seaneeboy 11-05-2004 16:11

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I think i'm in the same boat as you Theblueraja, which will be great if it's true - Had a hellish day and the idea of the bugs being fixed will cheer me up considerably!

*Dashes home*

EDIT: theblueraja, EPG Stands for Electronic Programme Guide, Just sos ya know!

DeKurver 11-05-2004 16:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theblueraja
So I have BBC on Channel 1 = Bromley, i have a purple screen = CR3 software with MR1 (ARGGGG!!!!).

So this means that very soon i will be getting MR2 on CR3 (Bromley)? Which turns my purple screen blue (but not langley) and makes it better?

Correct?

Yes. :)

You might find it easier to look at the screenshots of the different EPG versions below. Bromley CR3+MR2 should look similar, if not identical, to Langley CR3.

Cable Software Screenshots

TheBlueRaja 11-05-2004 16:23

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Great Link,
Thanks - but - why the heck change the color and then change it back again?

Anyhoo, as long as they fixed a lot of bugs i dont care. Bring it on.

P.s. Any News as to who has this yet, when the South east will be done?

Sam B 11-05-2004 17:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paul_hadley
If Sam B is reading this thread, then can she confirm that MR2 is being rolled out, and when certain areas will be recieving the download of MR2. Will all of the ex-cwc areas have the MR2 software by the end of May, or will it only be northern areas of the UK that recieve the MR2 download by the end of May, and other areas will be recieving the MR2 software via STB download later in June, or later?

There is no download happening in Bromley areas right now, called MR2 or anything else for that matter. So, I can confirm that this is wrong! Apologies to whoever has been given misinformation.

Sam

bigitup_j 11-05-2004 17:28

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ah well. samB, do you know when Bromley areas will be getting the update? i last heard that it's July.

thanks :)

paul_hadley 11-05-2004 18:15

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Thanks, Sam. It's good to have closure. We'll wait a while longer.

Sam B 11-05-2004 18:21

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Hi

No, there isn't an update coming imminently to Bromley areas.

Sam

andrew_wallasey 11-05-2004 18:56

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Sam - what are MR2 in the north west?

Tristan 11-05-2004 22:23

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MR2, or whatever it ends up being called, will not appear until, at the earliest, the end of the Langley rollout.

I suspect that the person on the DS thread had heard that a trial build was being sent out to some Assosiates, and just jumped the gun.

Also, I agree that the current version numbering system is very confusing -- I'm trying to think of a consistant way to represent these things that we can all use... as soon as I do, I'll let you know!

GrahamD 12-05-2004 10:24

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All I want to know is when are they going to fix the sound distortion which we've had to put up with for so long.

Neil 12-05-2004 10:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GrahamD
All I want to know is when are they going to fix the sound distortion which we've had to put up with for so long.

Have you reported this to ntl?

No point 'putting up with it', just ring them & give them the chance to put it right.

andrew_wallasey 12-05-2004 12:49

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Originally Posted by GrahamD
All I want to know is when are they going to fix the sound distortion which we've had to put up with for so long.

sounds like a problem with the box mate. the only thing i have ever had with the sound was it glitch but that was due to low levels.

browneggsandham 12-05-2004 17:41

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No, it's not a problem with the box.
It's a common problem in MR1. The reminder sounds couldn't be heard in the original CR3 rollout, so for MR1, they boosted the box volume up to +10 which worked for the reminders, but has also caused no end of problems with distorted and clipping TV sound.

Browneggsandham :)

aardvark 12-05-2004 23:10

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agree with the previous contributor about sound quality

i'm sick of reporting it to ntl

had stb changed twice ..... still the same prob

i'm not impressed :(

GrahamD 13-05-2004 10:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
Have you reported this to ntl?

No point 'putting up with it', just ring them & give them the chance to put it right.

Since it is a known problem (see above) I didn't waste the time. There was a very long thread on the old forum and it was clear that NTL knew about it but chose to do nothing.

poolking 13-05-2004 11:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GrahamD
Since it is a known problem (see above) I didn't waste the time. There was a very long thread on the old forum and it was clear that NTL knew about it but chose to do nothing.

So? Report the problem, doesn't matter how many times it is reported.

Adam_151 15-05-2004 17:59

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Our box has recieved the new software, it seems arkward to use, on the old software (purple), i could hit browse, scroll down and hit green for more info, there seems to be no way to do this on the new software (blue). I cant belive that they would make it so that it is impossible to get info for future programs, so I am guessing I just can't find the way to do it, anyone able to help?

bbc1 is on 101

Adam

ntlrocks 15-05-2004 18:34

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you hit the browse button when you have highlighted the program title, want a tip?, watch channel ntl:

pleased to help

TheBlueRaja 15-05-2004 19:07

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Adam where are you based? Just coz i would like to know where they are rolling it out.

browneggsandham 15-05-2004 19:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theblueraja
Adam where are you based? Just coz i would like to know where they are rolling it out.

He said that BBC1 was on 101 for him, so he's obviously in a Langley area and has just recieved LCR3.
MR2 is not being rolled out just yet.

Browneggsandham :)

ntlrocks 15-05-2004 19:22

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he means the langley roll out i think

edit: Browneggs, beat me by a minute , lol

browneggsandham 16-05-2004 00:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ntlrocks
he means the langley roll out i think

edit: Browneggs, beat me by a minute , lol

Makes a change. I'm usually the slow one :pp

Browneggsandham :D

Adam_151 16-05-2004 19:10

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I am just outside of Lincoln(east midlands sort of area), never heard of langley (I am guessing it must be around here somewhere then! - never been great at geography!), but from the screen shots of the langley boxes ours is identical, both the pre and post roll out pics

Anyway thanks for the info

Adam

Euan 16-05-2004 19:19

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Well if your on the Langley platform BBC1 is on 101 and if you are on the bromley platform BBC1 is on 1

bigitup_j 16-05-2004 19:36

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Langley - the actual place is just west of London (in a telewest area! :confused:)

and Bromley is 2 miles away :D from my house in south london - i think just of the A21 is the actual building!

:)

garyparson 17-05-2004 00:26

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If i could punch everyone who doesn't understand or recognise that MR1 f****d up the sound so if you listen to your cable on a half decent surround system it provides the best snap crackle and pop since you had breakfast then i'd be happier.

hurry up with the release you mofo's.

who's gonna pay for my surround if YOUR box has wrecked my speakers?

Nikko 17-05-2004 00:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garyparson
If i could punch everyone who doesn't understand or recognise that MR1 f****d up the sound so if you listen to your cable on a half decent surround system it provides the best snap crackle and pop since you had breakfast then i'd be happier.

hurry up with the release you mofo's.

who's gonna pay for my surround if YOUR box has wrecked my speakers?

Unplug it, then, you idiot. Any other worthwhile contributions for us to answer while you are here?

garyparson 17-05-2004 20:57

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hey, that's fixed everything now.. wow, why didn't i think of that in the first place!! err how do i watch cable now? maybe not a good idea in the first place.. best keep your mouth shut if you talk crap eh..

I pay for a service that I expect to be given. End of..

browneggsandham 17-05-2004 21:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garyparson
hey, that's fixed everything now.. wow, why didn't i think of that in the first place!! err how do i watch cable now? maybe not a good idea in the first place.. best keep your mouth shut if you talk crap eh..

I pay for a service that I expect to be given. End of..

Actually he wasn't talking crap at all.
If you don't want to damage your system, then just listen to ntl through the TV's speakers. That's how ;)

And if you're so unhappy with the service, then why do you stick with ntl??

Browneggsandham :o

Nutty 17-05-2004 22:32

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Quote:

Actually he wasn't talking crap at all.
If you don't want to damage your system, then just listen to ntl through the TV's speakers.
Perhaps his TV doesn't have speakers ?

At the end of the day its ntl's fault. We pay for a service, and it should be delievered. ntl are taking far too long sorting out the audio issue. If they cant release a software update quicker, then they need to come down harder on broadcasters who broadcast audio levels over the legal limit.

Never mind the fact that ntl should've spotted this before the code update went out.

garyparson 18-05-2004 01:10

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why should i move service when i've been with it since day one and this is the only thing that's really f****d me off?

Digital is all about pin sharp pictures and great sound. That's half a job then.. or maybe some of the fools posting above don't realise this?

oh yeah, what happens when i damage my tv speakers? widescreen's aint cheap you know! not mine anyway..

there was no problem with 'levels' before MR1 so why they have to blame it on that i'll never know.

Just put it back the way it was ffs. wouldn't know where the alarm was let alone used it before. sound on every channel is way way way more important.

you'd be able to get a discount if they'd even acknowledge that it's a problem!!! you ring them up and they act like they've never heard about it before. what a wind up..

browneggsandham 18-05-2004 16:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garyparson
Digital is all about pin sharp pictures and great sound. That's half a job then.. or maybe some of the fools posting above don't realise this?

Of course I realise this. But I wasn't talking about the pros and cons of digital TV. You were worried about your all precious, state of the art surround sound system becoming damaged, so I simply suggested a way to protect it until ntl release MR2 - don't use it for cable TV.
It's important that you realise I'm not denying, or disputing the fact that they are not providing the level of service we expect, of course they're not, but until MR2, you'll have to make do I'm afraid.

AFAIK, ntl don't broadcast in 5.1 anyway.


Quote:

Originally Posted by garyparsons
oh yeah, what happens when i damage my tv speakers? widescreen's aint cheap you know! not mine anyway..

I shouldn't think they would damage just due to some popping and crackling. My old TV hasn't. And I'm sure, if you paid as much as you make out for your TV, you spent that money on quality, not something which will bust at the first opportunity. I can understand you wanting to look after it, but I doubt this will do anything. It's just damn annoying for us, that's all.

Browneggsandham :)

garyparson 21-05-2004 21:47

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well there you go, you heard it here first. expensive equipment doesn't break!

afaik i've never said 5.1 in any post regarding ntl ever.

shouldn't we get a refund of some sort for this kind of sub standard service?

aardvark 21-05-2004 21:57

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so when is mr2 really going to be rolled out ... does anyone a c t u a l l y know ????

garyparson 21-05-2004 21:58

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coming soon obviously


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