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Jon M 11-05-2004 14:21

*CF RTA Survey*
 
As a spinoff from another thread, I wondered what real data we could produce as a group.

I want everyone to be honest now and admit to all the accidents they've either been guilty of, or on the receiving end of.

Please use the following format:
(I've only had one accident, so repeat as required on your own list)

s1lv3r
  • Accident Number : Description : Gender of driver at fault (your details if you were at fault) : Approximate age of guilty party
  • Accident 1 : Rear End Shunt : Female : 30-35

Nemesis 11-05-2004 14:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by s1lv3r
  • Accident 1 : Rear End Shunt : Female : 30-35

and keep it clean :D

Jon M 11-05-2004 14:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemesis
and keep it clean :D

And if you make the effort to post.. be sure to put some useful on-topic data in with the smutty innuendo ;) :D

Graham 11-05-2004 14:41

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Two accidents, both on the receiving end as a cyclist.

1) I was turning left on a roundabout, a driver came around it too fast, turning right and parked his front bumper into my back wheel, knocking me onto the pavement. Driver was Male aged about 40-50.

2) Overtaking a milk float, the driver suddenly turned right across my path without looking (I know because I was watching his eyes in his wing mirror) trapping my handlebars between the side of the float and a parked car (luckily I got my hands out of the way in time!). Driver was Male aged 50+.

altis 11-05-2004 14:52

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The van I owned previously was driven into while it was stationary on four separate occasions! Twice, at junctions, it was shunted from the rear (by men). Outside the front of the house it was run into hard by a young woman parking her car and outside the back of the house it was smashed into by someone unknown (but I think I know who he is).

Touch wood - I have had better luck with the new one ;)

Paul 11-05-2004 17:38

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I have had two accidents I can remember that were my fault - in one I clipped a motor cyclist and in the other I ran into the back of a car.

Two I can think of that involved other people [on me] were a male driver who ran into the back of me, and a female driver who reversed into me !

timewarrior2001 11-05-2004 17:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by s1lv3r
As a spinoff from another thread, I wondered what real data we could produce as a group.

I want everyone to be honest now and admit to all the accidents they've either been guilty of, or on the receiving end of.

Please use the following format:
(I've only had one accident, so repeat as required on your own list)

s1lv3r
  • Accident Number : Description : Gender of driver at fault (your details if you were at fault) : Approximate age of guilty party
  • Accident 1 : Rear End Shunt : Female : 30-35

Accident1: Front end collision: Female 25-30 (She wasnt looking where she was going)
Accident2: Side impact: Female 45-50 (She turned right at round about but in left hand lane)
Accident3: rear end shunt: Female 18-20 (I stopped at junction she was behind, she didnt stop until my car stopped hers)

carlingman 11-05-2004 23:58

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Accident 1 †“ Parked at Junction waiting to turn right, Petrol Tanker illegally reversed alongside me and turned left and got entangled in his wheels but managed to free myself by pumping the brakes. Car †“ write off †“ Tanker †“ Broken Mudguard †“ Male Tanker Driver Aged 55ish.

Accident 2 †“ Driving works van (speeding) Woman pulled out on me and I could not stop in time. (Works Van ultimately the Womanââ‚ÆšÂ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s fault as my right of way) Guilty Party †“ I took the rap as she was good looking and hey it was only a Works Van so Male 22 years old.

Accident 3 †“ Waiting at junction to turn, when crashed into from behind by a young 18 year old on the dole going to the shop for packet of fags driving without a licence and uninsured and no tax. Aged 18 Male.
(Still paying me the courts awarded costs £2 per week for the damaged caused 8 years later).

Accident 4 †“ Side and Front End write off caused by ******** in a 4x4 thinking they are oblivious to Ice doing 50 plus on an iced up road and then did the Waltzers to the side and front of my motor when then lost it.
Again Male 4x4 Driver Aged 30ish.

Accident 5 †“ Written off Motorbike due to blow out at 60mph on a dual carriageway. Myself riding aged 20 something Male †“ Guilty Party - tyre aged 2 years.

Marge 12-05-2004 00:06

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Accident 1) Car driven by female pulled out on me. I stopped, female driver behind me didn't. Rear end damage. All females under age of 35

Accident 2) Hit head on by drunk driver. Car totally trashed, male driver of other car killed. Both same age at the time 33

Chris W 12-05-2004 00:23

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1) driving in snow... tried to stop and slightly overshot the space... scratched the bumper of a golf but a lick of the finger and a rub and it was all sorted. Driver at fault: me: male, age 18 at the time

2) crashed into the central reservation of motorway at 70mph, mechanical failure of car. Driver at fault: me: male, age 19 very scary experience.

EDIT: accident while riding bicycle... driver clipped my handlebars causing me to hit a brick wall, flew over the handle bars, hit the road face first. Driver carried on and left me. I went to hospital and doctor told me if i landed on my nose i would be dead.

Proppinupthebar 12-05-2004 00:30

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Two accidents, ever.
Me a 13 year old cyclist wearing a bright pink Puma top. I was following the road at a right hand bend in the road which also had a road joining from the left. The driver pulled out on me as I got to the right hand bend, I hit the right hand wing of his car and then bounced across his bonnet, ending up on the road the other side of his car. No injury to me. All this happened just after a cop car had gone by, and the driver witnessed the incident in his rear view mirror, the copper turned round immediately. The driver who pulled out on me was so shaken up, the copper had to move his car for him. The copper then had to drive him back to my house the cop had to ask my Mum ( I was 13) whether she wanted to prosecute him for dangerous driving, she didn't. He was in tears. He was in his fifties.

Second was me driving a car, under a railway bridge followed immediately by a crossroads where I had right of way. Another car was going across the crossroads. The driver pulled out as I approached, no chance of stopping. He admitted liability straightaway, and said he was concentrating on young kids (who were there) about two hundred yards up the road he was pulling in to. Driver was approx 22 and male.

Mick 12-05-2004 00:48

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3 Accidents :erm:

First one, yonks ago when I was 21 - Fault - 3rd Party - My car was parked and not in use and a Taxi driver came up our road - its a dead end road, his passengers must of known this because - they did a runner from the taxi - without paying. So the taxi driver in a frenzy, reversed down the street, with all its doors open, hit my car and 16 others. The taxi driver was never caught - I lost out big time - no claims and higher premiums - I only had my car eight weeks when this happened. Made me sick to the stomach.

Second Accident happened a year later when I was 22 - Was going round - a roundabout - I had right of way and a foreign woman who was from France, hit me side on. Was her fault.

3rd Accident - 3rd Party to blame - was driving in the country, sheep were walking in the road - I slowed down to a halt - when I was hit from behind at 50MPH - my car was written off. My first car - was feeling sombre watching it being hoisted onto a trailer and being taken away from me forever. :cry:

MovedGoalPosts 12-05-2004 01:01

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Oh dear self abuse time:

1) Me learning to drive (age 17ish). Dad says lets drive round Marble Arch (London) during morning rush hour - me unwisely acting as chaffeur during summer hols :Yikes: . Emerge minus front bumper. :dunce:

2) Me having just learnt to drive. Car park behind shops, 300 odd spaces, 5 cars and mine. Mates kicking a ball about. Me, lets show off. Standing start full right hand lock 180 degree turn into back corner of mates car: Ford Fiesta v Hilman Imp. Imp broken rear corner light. Fiesta wrecked tailgate rear bumepr & cill, lights, and all sorts. The innocence of youth :angel:

3) Me 19 ish happily driving along in South London in rather rusty Mini. Stopped in traffic on hill. Car in front driven middle aged female fails hill start on three attempts, each getting closre until 3rd time rolls into me, such that my car acting as her brake is enough for her car to jump into gear and leap off into the sunset, me minus front spotlamps. :mad:

4) Me 24ish in different Mini pull out blind from side street, into path of saloon car. Male driver. My fault yet residential area, hidden view (due to parked lorries on corner of junction) - sour grapes on my part :( .

5) Me probably 27ish in beaten up Ford Escort (finally decided Minis are just to much trouble). North London stopped in queue of traffic. Pull away quite fast as car in front and queue appears to clear. After 50 yards traffic stops suddenly, so do I. Car behind 30 year old lady driver doesnt, blaming automatic gearbox and lack of brakes. Bye bye my cars rear end. :cry:

6) Me 30ish Fiesta XR2, nice snowy icy day (I don't learn you'll see later). Drive home, gentle sweeping bend on residential estate. Car keeps going straight on into nearside kerb then bounces into central island. Major damage to front suspension.

7) Now for perhaps the most embarrassing: Aged 34ish, driving modern Astra, a company car, turn out of office driveway. Boss is in car behind. The egress is from our drive is rith next to a mini roundabout. My right turn just misses the roundabout, cutting accross one of the roads entering onto it. but the same road has pelican crossing 20 yards away. I am beckoned across the right hand by a driver who kindly stops short. I accelerate into the back of a post office van who has stopped at the crossing. My car front is a mess. PO van barely scratched. Boss drives off smirking, ready to wind me up for next month and remind me of the policy excess on company cars £250 payable by yours truly. Worst though is PO van is driven by a friend. At the time we both worked as Special Constables so it's all round the local nick too :disturbd:

8) There's more: Me 38ish. My own pride and joy, a shiny new Alfa Romeo 156 Sportwagon. less than 300 miles on clock. In office car park, reverse from parking space into new bollard placed only the day before by the neighbouring office. £400 for new spray painted bumper :bigcry:

9) "It's not over till the fat lady sings!" Me 39. Heavy overnight snow has created a sheet of packed ice on my estate. Decide a U turn is unwise in the conditions in my now not so shiny Alfa, especially as I have found some time4 ago the front end is difficult to control due to the power. Decide to do large loop left hadn turn from street to street until I leave the estate and get to gritted roads. 1st turn goes great, straighten up a little then car doing no more than 10 mph slides 20 yards into parked car :td: . Renault 5 rear corner little scratch. :Oh: Alpha front corner new wing, bumper, healdlight, grille, and messed up hydraulic auto gearbox , steering and suspension. :fit:

Anyone wanna be a passenger in my car :D

Marge 12-05-2004 01:58

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Originally Posted by MovedGoalPosts
Anyone wanna be a passenger in my car :D


I'll walk, thanks anyway :erm:

Earl of Bronze 12-05-2004 02:05

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1). Driving along a straight road, tail-ended a stationary Renault 5 indicating to turn right. Me at fault (sorta). Male 30ish. Driving back to the yard after a hard day installing in Belfast. I was less than 5 mins from the yard driving down a fairly straight road, light traffic, and started into a sneezing fit. By the time I recovered I was 20 - 30 meters from the Renault 5, without time or space to brake. Lady in the car was a bit shaken, and the car had a small scuff on the back bumper. My works van had the front of the bonnet bent tight onto the bodywork, and this had to be replaced.

2). Driving along a straight road, tail ended a stationary Citreon Berlingo. Me at fault. 32ish Male. First day with the new contractor for ntl in Belfast, signed for a brand new Berlingo. Had done a basic fitout of installation stock, and was driving 1/3 of a mile between the ntl store and McNicollas yard. Was dieing from a heavy chest cold, went into a coughing fit and even though I was attenpting to stop, the greasy road surface sent me into the back of a workmates Berlingo. First day of the contract, on money made by the company and I had already cost them about £1000 in damage to two vans. :dunce:

3). Back-seat passenger along with my late partner in a VW Polo. Hit by another VW Polo side on. Driver of the car I was in at fault. Male 28. Driving back from a mates house in Ballyclare, my mate Dave pulled out at a junction only for us to be hit side on by another Polo doing between 60 and 80 mph. Daves car was written off, having the off-side torn open from the back of the drivers door to the rear wheel-arch. Dave suffered a broken sternum, Rodz (front passenger) ko'ed concussion and brusing, Maureen (my partner) fied from massive internal injuries, me - 8 broken ribs (all on the right side of my back) bruised liver, right kidney and pluericy and brusing to right lung.

Alan Waddington 12-05-2004 08:35

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1. Van pulled out of side turning into me when i was cycling - Driver 40ish Male
2. I pulled out of side junction into oncoming traffic - Minor damage to front wing of both cars - my fault
3. Rear ended on A3 after I breaked heavily to avoid another car changing lanes without checking for available space. Whole thing really the fault of the guy who got away. Rear bumper and offside rear panel damaged - tailgate never did shut properly again - Driver 30ish Male
4. Rear ended at Roundabout, when other driver thought I was going to continue, but I stopped at roundabout - slow speed - tow bar took impact - no damage - Driver 30ish Male

Incidentally, I notice that most accidents in this thread are other people's fault - funny that :D

abailey152 12-05-2004 10:55

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Just one.....

I ran into the back of someone at a round-about. I was queuing behind the guy, then he pulled off (or at least I thought he'd gone). How the round-about is constructed you have to look almost over your right shoulder to view traffic on the round-about. I was looking as I was moving forward....and bang! He'd stopped for some reason. Not too much damage, but I've given this particular round-about a lot more respect and caution since!

gazzae 12-05-2004 11:21

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Never been involved in an RTA :)

Nugget 12-05-2004 11:22

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Originally Posted by gazzae
Never been involved in an RTA :)

Same here (although I did drive into a gate post about 15 minutes after buying my first car :blush: :dunce: )

MovedGoalPosts 12-05-2004 13:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Debsy42
I'll walk, thanks anyway :erm:

Aw shucks, I'm a safe driver if I want to be. Somehow, I've got full no claims bonus, and all my little dings have been injury free.

punky 12-05-2004 16:12

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Just the one. It's kinda difficult to explain, but i'll give it a go.

Accident Description: I was in the middle of a junction turning right. There are two lanes on the opposite road (If I was going straight on by the traffic light), and that turn lane (turning right, behind me) in that lane is always full, which blocks the view of the other lane (going straight ahead, in front of me), which has cars coming across me. So you always have to wait til the light goes red, then go. I waited, and when the light switched from yellow to red, the flow of cars going straight ahead stopped, so I nudged out (trouble is because of the bonnet, you already have 3' of your car in their lane before you can see), and a mini cab, was trying to jump across on yellow swiped the front of my car. I filed a police report, but they decided on taking no action.

Gender And Age: We are both men, I was 20 at the time, he was 40+.

Conclusion: I lost my no claims bonus, and £200 excess, but luckily, I wasn't charged the extra £300 I should have because I was under 21 (Thanx Norwich Union!! :)). Unluckily, he had hire and reward insurance :( Despite the fact he just scratchd everything, the damage to me was still £1200. Anything with a small scratch on it had to be replaced. It seemed like the insurance companies did it knock-for-knock, as I think they said that liability was split 50-50. We were both at fault. He should not of tried to cross the junction that late into the signal (longish amber, he could of stopped), and I should of waited maybe a second or two into the red before going.

Behold, my magnificant MSpaint skills :)

secular 15-05-2004 18:56

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I had a spectaculer RTA involving a parked tractor.

2 Months after taking my test and driving my mums Nova with no incidents my Dad buys me a second-hand 2.0 Litre Injection Astra GTE. Now this motor has about four times the HP of the Nova.
I'm just 18 and I've spent a bit of money on the car - new air filter - head ported and the injector upgraded and I put it on a rolling road. At 5,500rpm the car produces 182 BHP. This works out at around 130mph+ in top.

Imagine the situation; an 18 y/o in a powerful car living in the middle of the countryside, unrestricted roads for miles. These are roads I literally know like the back of my hand.

To the accident in question, the day was a tuesday and I was driving back from a friends at about 5 pm so the sun was really low in the sky. There was a 90 degree corner with no warning signs but it was fine I knew the road.

What I didn't know is that a farmer (who my parents knew as a friend) has parked his tractor ACROSS the road - now this is a 9 Ton seddon I'm talking about - I come up to corner and slow down - as I enter the corner the sun blinds me completely - I let off but I know the road so I keep it in 4th. I never see the tractor.

According to the crash investigator he estimates I was travelling at around 70 - 80 mph when I hit the tractor. The impact flips my car over and to the right of the tractor, according to the farmer I completed 3 barrels and came to a stop upside down in the field.

Some distances -

The impact of my car rotated the Seddon 90degrees and destroyed the rear axle and wheels of the tractor.

The marks on the ground indicate that I travelled 10m+ after hitting the tractor IN THE AIR. The car came to a stop 25m from the site of the impact. I have no recollection of the events after the crash.

My Injuries - (yes, I was wearing a seatbelt - but the GTE had no airbag)

Compressed disk and 3 partially compressed disks - My back gets stiff when it gets cold.

Broken ankle, broken leg, 6 broken ribs, fractured skull, an amusing Vauxhall badge bruise over the fracture as my head hit the steering wheel, punctured lung, broken fingers and wrist - the same one as I just broke again, cheekbone smashed.

My face hit the windscreen so hard it split my eyebrow, nose and smashed my cheek. When I rub my face I still get shards of glass coming out - this is 5 years since the accident.

I wake up in the hospital 3 days later in traction. I was in hospital for 2 months. It sucked, and I've not driven since.

Countless moments of getting run over as a bike rider, the only interesting one is where a car knocked me off my bike - just drove through me and the car behind it ran over my arm - breaking it in 4 places. Suprising how hard you can hit with one arm.

SMHarman 15-05-2004 21:51

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Originally Posted by secular
I had a spectaculer RTA involving a parked tractor.

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Ouch, glad to hear you are alive and in reasonable shape considering.

One question. Did the insurance companies decide who was at fault. Looking at the diagram, you would have hit that doing 40 or 60 (the road limit). Seems a pretty daft place to park a tractor.

My Accidents.

Whilst learning I clipped wing mirrors on my dads car while he was passenger, no damage. After passing did much the same with the whole family in the car, broke the glass.

Worked for perfect pizza and drove their van, a 950 cc Ford festa popular. First and impressively no damage close shave was me whizzing through a gap between two cars that was a little tight and realising that both wing mirrors ended up folded into the sides, perpaps a little too tight! Big dent i put into that was reversing it into a space beside a wall i turned right not left and bent up the front wing.

Totalled my first peugeot 205, aged 18. An 1.4 XS, which actually did a pretty good job holding its own against the 1.6i. Anyway on the A414 between the Hadhams and A10 the car in front of me went round the bend, the one behind stopped and missed me. I did a 360 deg pirouette bounced off the hedge on the opposite side of the road and that was that. Luckily nothing coming the other way. Why - possibly new front tyres and older (4mm) rear tyres. I know now that the tyres with better grip should go on the back of a FWD car, so the front hung on and the rear lost it. Admiral insurance have never given me a competitive quote since!

Next accident was a couple of years ago (30). Guy in a white escort (30s) van backed into me in hertford town centre as he was trying to get out of the way of the bus coming toward him on the one way section in town. New front bumper on my car £250, no damage to his. The towing hook on his did most the damage.

Two weeks ago 33 backed into a car in a stevenage carpark. no damage to either. The other guy was suprisingly pleasant about it. Got out looked, shouted over, no damage done and drove off!


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